Reform

But it was OK to slip Burnham in to become PM? Funny, since Labour apparently couldn't afford local elections.
I think it a joke that an MP chooses to stand down and give the public a chance to back or sack him and many politicians of all parties criticise him for it.

It shows their natural instincts are against democracy. Farage will be investigated and may or may not have broken rules but I applaud him for giving the people of Clacton a voice.

Many many MPs have switched parties or like Farage find themselves under investigation or convicted of a criminal offence and refused to stand down. It really would not surprise me that the voices now calling shame on Farage have previously moaned about MPs who would not stand down.

Even if he wins by a landslide he might still be find to have broken the rules.
 
I’m not sure what this by election is supposed to achieve?
It’s unlikely he will see his large majority reduced, unless Restore stand, and the investigation prompted by the Conservatives into his alleged failure to declare gifts will continue if he is re-elected.
For the first time I am in agreement with Rupert Lowe - this all seems to be about Nigel Farage. Maybe Trump suggested this to him. I’ve never heard of an MP resigning and re-standing before. Has it ever happened?
 
What would be the claim?

If it stated he received money and he had it is fact.

I have not read the article (pay wall) but if it stated (or implied to the extent that that is the conclusion you would more likely reach) that the payments breached "X" rules but did not, the Times could be in trouble.

If it says that Farage received payments that he actually received; that the rules provide that...; and Farage has said in his defence (of has refused to comment)...; then they are probably clear.
Perhaps, basically showing where his family live is worthy of legal action, no?
 
I’m not sure what this by election is supposed to achieve?
It’s unlikely he will see his large majority reduced, unless Restore stand, and the investigation prompted by the Conservatives into his alleged failure to declare gifts will continue if he is re-elected.
For the first time I am in agreement with Rupert Lowe - this all seems to be about Nigel Farage. Maybe Trump suggested this to him. I’ve never heard of an MP resigning and re-standing before. Has it ever happened?


It has happened before. Tall, skinny bloke. Was a Tory, resigned over some kind of EU related schenanigans then stood again and won a landslide. Argh...(sorry, trying not to just look this stuff up anymore as I am trying to give the old crust a bit more stimulation these days). Might even have been up in Clacton as well?

EDIT - Carwell? Carswell?
 
As to this stuff with Farage then I smell a rat. But its actually, in and of itself, not a bad strategy. Plays into the positives he has with people i.e a man willing to put it all on the line. There is clearly a push against him at the moment and so by doing this, he invites it all out then allows the public to give their opinion. s*** or bust. But if he loses, then it's the end of Reform. Done and dusted.

Leaving the way open for Restore....interesting times we live in.
 
What would be the claim?

If it stated he received money and he had it is fact.

I have not read the article (pay wall) but if it stated (or implied to the extent that that is the conclusion you would more likely reach) that the payments breached "X" rules but did not, the Times could be in trouble.

If it says that Farage received payments that he actually received; that the rules provide that...; and Farage has said in his defence (of has refused to comment)...; then they are probably clear.

I'm just annoyed over the behaviour of the media and state.
 
Some interesting theories. Looks like somebody has decided to get into information they should not be. Now that does not mean it is not legitimate for the Press to play the public interest card because Farage is an MP, and therefore fair game.

But as always, its timing. Now one of my many conspiracy theories is that Burnham needs a BIG soap-box to stand on and that may well be a push to get us back in the EU because there aint much else he can do. So doing Farages legs now, makes sense.
 
As to this stuff with Farage then I smell a rat. But its actually, in and of itself, not a bad strategy. Plays into the positives he has with people i.e a man willing to put it all on the line. There is clearly a push against him at the moment and so by doing this, he invites it all out then allows the public to give their opinion. s*** or bust. But if he loses, then it's the end of Reform. Done and dusted.

Leaving the way open for Restore....interesting times we live in.
Possible ploy not to stand against forcing a pyrrhic victory
 
Possible ploy not to stand against forcing a pyrrhic victory

Possible. The REALLY silver-hat s*** is that Farage is a full-on state asset. The tie-wearing flipside to Tommy Robinson and both potentially with the same backers in Tel-Aviv. Now it's clear that the state want Farage out of the way, especially if you accept my Burnham going full rejoiner, or as good as, theory in the next 12 months. So they get him to pull this stunt in the expectation that Restore will stand, and there-by split the vote and thus Farage loses. But Lowe ain't playing....

But even that is pushing it for me....although in this f***ed up world, anything is possible.
 
I'm just annoyed over the behaviour of the media and state.
It is a fact of life, right or wrong, that every MPs private life is deemed to be public interest. That shouldn’t extend to family,, but I remember Jack straw’s son being caught with pot (I think) and also Tony Blair’s kid??
I struggle to see what role has the state ( assume the government?) played in this? Farage resigning and re-standing is a big and risky act of self indulgence - the state hasn’t caused this. It was the tories who complained about him.
 

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