chris123
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I think it a joke that an MP chooses to stand down and give the public a chance to back or sack him and many politicians of all parties criticise him for it.
It shows their natural instincts are against democracy. Farage will be investigated and may or may not have broken rules but I applaud him for giving the people of Clacton a voice.
Many many MPs have switched parties or like Farage find themselves under investigation or convicted of a criminal offence and refused to stand down. It really would not surprise me that the voices now calling shame on Farage have previously moaned about MPs who would not stand down.
Even if he wins by a landslide he might still be find to have broken the rules.
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I’m not sure what this by election is supposed to achieve?
It’s unlikely he will see his large majority reduced, unless Restore stand, and the investigation prompted by the Conservatives into his alleged failure to declare gifts will continue if he is re-elected.
For the first time I am in agreement with Rupert Lowe - this all seems to be about Nigel Farage. Maybe Trump suggested this to him. I’ve never heard of an MP resigning and re-standing before. Has it ever happened?
It’s unlikely he will see his large majority reduced, unless Restore stand, and the investigation prompted by the Conservatives into his alleged failure to declare gifts will continue if he is re-elected.
For the first time I am in agreement with Rupert Lowe - this all seems to be about Nigel Farage. Maybe Trump suggested this to him. I’ve never heard of an MP resigning and re-standing before. Has it ever happened?
Perhaps, basically showing where his family live is worthy of legal action, no?
It has happened before. Tall, skinny bloke. Was a Tory, resigned over some kind of EU related schenanigans then stood again and won a landslide. Argh...(sorry, trying not to just look this stuff up anymore as I am trying to give the old crust a bit more stimulation these days). Might even have been up in Clacton as well?
EDIT - Carwell? Carswell?
As to this stuff with Farage then I smell a rat. But its actually, in and of itself, not a bad strategy. Plays into the positives he has with people i.e a man willing to put it all on the line. There is clearly a push against him at the moment and so by doing this, he invites it all out then allows the public to give their opinion. s*** or bust. But if he loses, then it's the end of Reform. Done and dusted.
Leaving the way open for Restore....interesting times we live in.
Leaving the way open for Restore....interesting times we live in.
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Stirlingsays
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I'm just annoyed over the behaviour of the media and state.
Some interesting theories. Looks like somebody has decided to get into information they should not be. Now that does not mean it is not legitimate for the Press to play the public interest card because Farage is an MP, and therefore fair game.
But as always, its timing. Now one of my many conspiracy theories is that Burnham needs a BIG soap-box to stand on and that may well be a push to get us back in the EU because there aint much else he can do. So doing Farages legs now, makes sense.
But as always, its timing. Now one of my many conspiracy theories is that Burnham needs a BIG soap-box to stand on and that may well be a push to get us back in the EU because there aint much else he can do. So doing Farages legs now, makes sense.
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Possible ploy not to stand against forcing a pyrrhic victory
Possible. The REALLY silver-hat s*** is that Farage is a full-on state asset. The tie-wearing flipside to Tommy Robinson and both potentially with the same backers in Tel-Aviv. Now it's clear that the state want Farage out of the way, especially if you accept my Burnham going full rejoiner, or as good as, theory in the next 12 months. So they get him to pull this stunt in the expectation that Restore will stand, and there-by split the vote and thus Farage loses. But Lowe ain't playing....
But even that is pushing it for me....although in this f***ed up world, anything is possible.
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It is a fact of life, right or wrong, that every MPs private life is deemed to be public interest. That shouldn’t extend to family,, but I remember Jack straw’s son being caught with pot (I think) and also Tony Blair’s kid??
I struggle to see what role has the state ( assume the government?) played in this? Farage resigning and re-standing is a big and risky act of self indulgence - the state hasn’t caused this. It was the tories who complained about him.
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The media are responsible for involving his family members. I don't believe Farage has accused the state with that.
Farage is correct, they should be off limits, unless they are involved in some way..... both for politicians and for others. He's right to be angry and concerned.
Watch the speech, he accuses the state of reducing his security budget by seventy percent the day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, despite apparently being the most attacked political figure and he accuses intelligence of leaking ....something about personal details I'd have to watch it again myself.
Let’s lighten it up a little 🤗
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Any other paper other than 'The Times' and I might think he was being a tad OTT but the various agencies leak all the time to them.
I am no fan of Farage and see him as a massive part of the problem but its clear that whatever my views on him are, SW1 want him out of the picture now. They are clearing the decks for Burnham.
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Labour and Tories couldn't find a candidate who hadn't been on the take.
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All MPs should have adequate protection, and that means some might need more than others. I’m sure there are ways to deal with that through the house of. Commons. Most committees are cross bench and I’m sure the speaker could help deal with that. Winning the by- election isn’t going to guarantee him a bigger security budget- Reform will have the same number of seats and Labour will remain in power.
Having seen a lot of this ‘hounding his daughter’ stuff now online, including the videos of what happened, I think he is overreacting a bit. Remember he was the one wanting a clean break from Europe while being married to a German and as for deporting dual nationals, well he own kids are one and the same! I’m sure he has had bigger issues to deal with over the years in terms of press intrusion
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And if / when a looney lefty shows up at his daughter's address (because it's now out there) who believes all the Nazi name calling by the media? What then? will Farage be over reacting then if as a result has to go to his daughters funeral?
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What the feck has being married to a German got to with not having the EU decide our laws?
Absolutely nothing.
Deporting his kids? Errrr....When they could give up German citizenship? These are ridiculous statements.
Look, If you don't think Farage's arguments warrant serious concern then frankly I utterly disagree with you. Dominic Cummings predicted this would happen to Farage some time ago and he's been proven correct......and it highlights just how low our democracy has fallen.
The establishment aren't fit for purpose.
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Months ago a lefty family member at a barbecue said that the recently murdered Charlie Kirk was an extremist. I had to bite my tongue to stop myself from saying that the extremist was the murderer, not the guy turning up to debate people who chose to debate him.
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