Reform

[Willo]

I agree with you on this - of course polling this far out is not proof of anything, but that is every bit as applicable to Reform.

I think it's fair to say the majority of people are now fed up with the two main parties - the two main alternatives being served up at the moment are Reform and Greens, and I think both are well placed to take advantage of people's disillusion with Labour and the Tories.

It merely reveals the prevailing mood. The General Election is nearly 4 years away, one cannot peer that far into the distance and predict events on a national and international stage. The political landscape might be far removed from the present.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Yes, of course - Reform are a proper party.

It's good you acknowledge that.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The BBC did a drama years back where Jane Horricks played a character who unintentionally caught the Zeitgeist and because PM effectively by accident.

In the current nutcase world don't count on the Greens not doing something similar.

More Green votes means less for Labour. I'm all for it.

Anybody who want to see an end to mass immigration will not vote for anyone other than Reform.

 

[Willo]

More Green votes means less for Labour. I'm all for it.

Anybody who want to see an end to mass immigration will not vote for anyone other than Reform.

The Conservatives have made it abundantly clear that if want to protect our borders and democracy we have to leave the ECHR.
Unlike Reform who treat leaving like it’s a slogan or a silver bullet, us Conservatives recognise the complexity hence why we have a plan built on months of hard work and detailed legal preparation.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The Conservatives have made it abundantly clear that if want to protect our borders and democracy we have to leave the ECHR.
Unlike Reform who treat leaving like it’s a slogan or a silver bullet, us Conservatives recognise the complexity hence why we have a plan built on months of hard work and detailed legal preparation.

Like they did for 14 years?

I think it's fairly obvious who is most likely to tackle immigration.

The Tories won't even get enough votes from their own MPs to leave the ECHR.

 

[Willo]

Like they did for 14 years?

I think it's fairly obvious who is most likely to tackle immigration.

The Tories won't even get enough votes from their own MPs to leave the ECHR.

We are fully aware of our fallibilities in relation to immigration, however then was then.The Conservative Party is under new leadership there is a new team and we have conducted a thorough and extensive 'Policy Renewal' programme.We have learned lessons and the challenges have made us stronger and sharper and more determined to deliver for the electorate.
We are building back with hard work and patience.

I have no trust in a party with one-note opportunists who simply catch the prevailing mood. Reform lack substance and should (God forbid) they form the next Government there will be precious little experience of politics around that cabinet table.Currently Reform's policies are unravelling as they face intense scrutiny.

 

[cryrst]

We are fully aware of our fallibilities in relation to immigration, however then was then.The Conservative Party is under new leadership there is a new team and we have conducted a thorough and extensive 'Policy Renewal' programme.We have learned lessons and the challenges have made us stronger and sharper and more determined to deliver for the electorate.
We are building back with hard work and patience.

I have no trust in a party with one-note opportunists who simply catch the prevailing mood. Reform lack substance and should (God forbid) they form the next Government there will be precious little experience of politics around that cabinet table.Currently Reform's policies are unravelling as they face intense scrutiny.

Way back when parties were first formed how much experience did they have.
Reform will have precedents to both follow and not follow. Some of their MPs have been around the block. They are not silly enough to think a one policy manifesto will be acceptable. They’re not Hamas !!

 

[mezzer]

We are fully aware of our fallibilities in relation to immigration, however then was then.The Conservative Party is under new leadership there is a new team and we have conducted a thorough and extensive 'Policy Renewal' programme.We have learned lessons and the challenges have made us stronger and sharper and more determined to deliver for the electorate.
We are building back with hard work and patience.

I have no trust in a party with one-note opportunists who simply catch the prevailing mood. Reform lack substance and should (God forbid) they form the next Government there will be precious little experience of politics around that cabinet table.Currently Reform's policies are unravelling as they face intense scrutiny.

You've said many times that you did not vote for your current leader and that you thought Jenrick was a better choice. But now you seem to be getting fully behind your party as it exists and waving the Tory flag for having "learned lessons".
So, are you now behind your current leader or is there yet another re-set to be had before we can trust what they say?

 

[ASCPFC]

Like they did for 14 years?

I think it's fairly obvious who is most likely to tackle immigration.

The Tories won't even get enough votes from their own MPs to leave the ECHR.

Labour have a bit of an opportunity here to tackle immigration. They are the correct political persuasion - so calling them fascist won't wash. They have the correct person in the position to not get called racists. They have the biggest influence politically over the people that administer and carry out the work, in the main.
They might even genuinely do something to get some votes back. However, they just keep on leaking ideas at the moment to gauge how their own activists will react, and the reaction on public forums/ social media etc. They're not doing anything.
The potential reaction to Reform carrying out its immigratiom agenda is concerning. The press will whip up the rhetoric too, plus we've already seen how one side can threaten to slit the throats yet another can't even put up their own country's flag without being vilified.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

We are fully aware of our fallibilities in relation to immigration, however then was then.The Conservative Party is under new leadership there is a new team and we have conducted a thorough and extensive 'Policy Renewal' programme.We have learned lessons and the challenges have made us stronger and sharper and more determined to deliver for the electorate.
We are building back with hard work and patience.

I have no trust in a party with one-note opportunists who simply catch the prevailing mood. Reform lack substance and should (God forbid) they form the next Government there will be precious little experience of politics around that cabinet table.Currently Reform's policies are unravelling as they face intense scrutiny.

That might just be the best part.

Donald Trump has been a breath of fresh air.

 

[Willo]

You've said many times that you did not vote for your current leader and that you thought Jenrick was a better choice. But now you seem to be getting fully behind your party as it exists and waving the Tory flag for having "learned lessons".
So, are you now behind your current leader or is there yet another re-set to be had before we can trust what they say?

It has been well documented that I did not vote for Kemi Badenoch but this does not mean that I should abandon my fervent support for my party.
I have been a contributor to the 'Policy Renewal Programme'. We have set out a serious, creditable Conservative plan to restore confidence,control and pride in our country.
The Conservative Party have stayed united and that unity is a strength.With a strong team in the Shadow Cabinet and a focus on valued-led policies we are giving the party new energy and direction.

 

[mezzer]

It has been well documented that I did not vote for Kemi Badenoch but this does not mean that I should abandon my fervent support for my party.
I have been a contributor to the 'Policy Renewal Programme'. We have set out a serious, creditable Conservative plan to restore confidence,control and pride in our country.
The Conservative Party have stayed united and that unity is a strength.With a strong team in the Shadow Cabinet and a focus on valued-led policies we are giving the party new energy and direction.

The party has stayed united for about as long as one of my New Year's Resolutions.

So are you now united behind Badenoch, even though you've been viciforously critical of her in the past?

 

[Willo]

That might just be the best part.

Donald Trump has been a breath of fresh air.

Donald Trump has already served a term as President and has had a team of professional experienced strong and trusted advisors whilst at the White House.
Farage has already accepted that a lack of experience at Reform could be challenging for them.

 

[Willo]

The party has stayed united for about as long as one of my New Year's Resolutions.

So are you now united behind Badenoch, even though you've been viciforously critical of her in the past?

I have not been "vociferously critical" of Kemi Badenoch, I simply had a preference for Robert Jenrick.
I am not going to abandon my support for my party on the basis that I favoured another candidate.
I fully support the initiatives we have taken to rebuild our great party and of course wholeheartedly support our serious alternative plan to restore economic strengthen and secure our borders.
On that positive note I shall now prepare for an Online Conservative meeting.

 

[mezzer]

I have not been "vociferously critical" of Kemi Badenoch, I simply had a preference for Robert Jenrick.
I am not going to abandon my support for my party on the basis that I favoured another candidate.
I fully support the initiatives we have taken to rebuild our great party and of course wholeheartedly support our serious alternative plan to restore economic strengthen and secure our borders.

I thought you had but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Anyway, I wish you well and trust that you and Mrs Willo find plenty to luxuriate in marital bliss over the coming weeks. I've never enquired as to her voting preferences but it would blow my mind if she was anything other akin to your own. The very thought of the Willo household being ripped asunder by political discourse is too dreadful to bear

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Donald Trump has already served a term as President and has had a team of professional experienced strong and trusted advisors whilst at the White House.
Farage has already accepted that a lack of experience at Reform could be challenging for them.

I'm sure the electorate will forgive inexperience if they actually keep their promise to tackle immigration.

 

[Willo]

I thought you had but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Anyway, I wish you well and trust that you and Mrs Willo find plenty to luxuriate in marital bliss over the coming weeks. I've never enquired as to her voting preferences but it would blow my mind if she was anything other akin to your own. The very thought of the Willo household being ripped asunder by political discourse is too dreadful to bear

Thank you ever so much for your kind wishes.
I am glad to reveal that my dear wife is of the same political persuasion as 'Yours Truly', she has accompanied me to Conservative events and is an avid reader of the 'Daily Mail' !
Suffice to say we were not matched on any 'Dating site !!!!