Raheem Sterling

[NMPalace]

A player who was crap for Arsenal (0 goals in 17 PL appearances) when he was a year younger, training alone at Chelsea, on an obscene wage and probably suffering trauma from two home invasions. Not a lot going for it

overall i am anti Sterling but there is some logic if we went for him on loan.

He's 31 in Dec and has barely played for the last 2 or 3 years and his loan at Arsenal was very underwhelming. He is clearly a player in decline after almost 15 years as a professional. He is one of the top earners in the Prem at c£300k a week. Does he still have the drive and enthusiasm?

However, supposedly Arsenal 'only' paid £100k of his salary a week and we know this is affordable for us.

We need someone ASAP the moment the window opens.

He can play anywhere across the front 3 so that will help if we are still in the cups. Clearly we need a Sarr replacement and there are limited options.

Based on the Chilwell loan last year - took a while to get up to speed, was ok but no better than what we had, a lot of money for a bit part player etc i'm thinking Sterling will be similar. However, the getting him in on 1st Jan does make him an definite option.

On Thursday we took both Pino and Sarr off and replaced them with Devenny and Kamada - neither has any speed or ability to beat a man. Immediately our attacking threat disappeared. We can't go into January with these 2 as the only options

 

[silvertop]

overall i am anti Sterling but there is some logic if we went for him on loan.

He's 31 in Dec and has barely played for the last 2 or 3 years and his loan at Arsenal was very underwhelming. He is clearly a player in decline after almost 15 years as a professional. He is one of the top earners in the Prem at c£300k a week. Does he still have the drive and enthusiasm?

However, supposedly Arsenal 'only' paid £100k of his salary a week and we know this is affordable for us.

We need someone ASAP the moment the window opens.

He can play anywhere across the front 3 so that will help if we are still in the cups. Clearly we need a Sarr replacement and there are limited options.

Based on the Chilwell loan last year - took a while to get up to speed, was ok but no better than what we had, a lot of money for a bit part player etc i'm thinking Sterling will be similar. However, the getting him in on 1st Jan does make him an definite option.

On Thursday we took both Pino and Sarr off and replaced them with Devenny and Kamada - neither has any speed or ability to beat a man. Immediately our attacking threat disappeared. We can't go into January with these 2 as the only options

If i were a betting man I would say he will play the 2nd half of the season at West Ham.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Sterling isn't very good. Why would we want him?

What ever he had, he's a past it.

 

[chris123]

It seems to be a ridiculous situation with Sterling, nobody can doubt he has quality, world cup year, a loan of six months, 100k of his wages, has he got any ambition left, does he have the i will show them spirit reinstalled in him, i doubt it, but if he could get some of the old form back, it could be a master stroke or a disaster, talking to him about his attitude cant hurt, don't know, its not always what you want its what you can get.

Barred from club and ground is not normal so I wouldn't want any part even at zero cost

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Sterling isn't very good. Why would we want him?

What ever he had, he's a past it.

Is he, are you sure, you can only get what is available, i would talk to him and see what his thoughts would be, is he better than Esse, Uche or JRS in Sarrs position, i don't for one minute think we will buy, only loan

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Can anyone name any player under the age of 35, with a record of achievement in the Premier league 3 years ago that we can loan? Wilf?

 

[ASCPFC]

Can anyone name any player under the age of 35, with a record of achievement in the Premier league 3 years ago that we can loan? Wilf?

Fair enough, he wouldn't fit into this squad however.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Is he, are you sure, you can only get what is available, i would talk to him and see what his thoughts would be.

Have you seen him play recently?

No thanks.

 

[ASCPFC]

Is he, are you sure, you can only get what is available, i would talk to him and see what his thoughts would be, is he better than Esse, Uche or JRS in Sarrs position, i don't for one minute think we will buy, only loan

If it were free and we could terminate it at will, then fair enough. But he'd have to agree to it. Don't you think he's just riding out the two years of his contract now and then retiring or going to one of the shithole retirement leagues? I don't think he wants to work hard. However, if Glasner met him, and Raheem said he's willing to work and it was free (a lot of and/is) then why be against it? As someone said, Kamada and Devenny offer little end product. Nor had Sterling recently but it's still likely to be more than them.
Obviously, Esse, Uche and JRS can offer little. The harshest thing I could say is that they don't really play for us. They can't offer much on the bench, in a couple of minutes or from abroad.
There was no reason JRS couldn't have at least been in our European squad. Would he have ran at Larnaca? Notice no one else did and it's probably what we needed in that game. And yes, I would criticise Glasner for that game. I thought about it recently and realised we needed a maverick flair player for that game. But as Glasner doesn't like it we didn't have any. Or simply refused to use them because "system". Which is actually utter rubbish in my opinion. You play who's Infront of you. Not what's written on a white board in a classroom.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

If it were free and we could terminate it at will, then fair enough. But he'd have to agree to it. Don't you think he's just riding out the two years of his contract now and then retiring or going to one of the shithole retirement leagues? I don't think he wants to work hard. However, if Glasner met him, and Raheem said he's willing to work and it was free (a lot of and/is) then why be against it? As someone said, Kamada and Devenny offer little end product. Nor had Sterling recently but it's still likely to be more than them.
Obviously, Esse, Uche and JRS can offer little. The harshest thing I could say is that they don't really play for us. They can't offer much on the bench, in a couple of minutes or from abroad.
There was no reason JRS couldn't have at least been in our European squad. Would he have ran at Larnaca? Notice no one else did and it's probably what we needed in that game. And yes, I would criticise Glasner for that game. I thought about it recently and realised we needed a maverick flair player for that game. But as Glasner doesn't like it we didn't have any. Or simply refused to use them because "system". Which is actually utter rubbish in my opinion. You play who's Infront of you. Not what's written on a white board in a classroom.

Very good post

 

[Runningman]

Have you seen him play recently?

No thanks.

Absolutely agree.
Look at Isak at Liverpool. Missed pre season (although I’m sure he was training) and still not up to speed. Sterling not played competitively for over a year. On what basis does anyone think he would be a good SHORT term fix ? Mental.

 

[beak]

Fair enough, he wouldn't fit into this squad however.

^^^^^^ this.

 

[NMPalace]

If it were free and we could terminate it at will, then fair enough. But he'd have to agree to it. Don't you think he's just riding out the two years of his contract now and then retiring or going to one of the shithole retirement leagues? I don't think he wants to work hard. However, if Glasner met him, and Raheem said he's willing to work and it was free (a lot of and/is) then why be against it? As someone said, Kamada and Devenny offer little end product. Nor had Sterling recently but it's still likely to be more than them.
Obviously, Esse, Uche and JRS can offer little. The harshest thing I could say is that they don't really play for us. They can't offer much on the bench, in a couple of minutes or from abroad.
There was no reason JRS couldn't have at least been in our European squad. Would he have ran at Larnaca? Notice no one else did and it's probably what we needed in that game. And yes, I would criticise Glasner for that game. I thought about it recently and realised we needed a maverick flair player for that game. But as Glasner doesn't like it we didn't have any. Or simply refused to use them because "system". Which is actually utter rubbish in my opinion. You play who's Infront of you. Not what's written on a white board in a classroom.

it would only be a 6 month loan - same terms as Chilwell - or nothing. I don't think anyone is saying we should buy him

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

^^^^^^ this.

Do you have any loan suggestions?

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Absolutely agree.
Look at Isak at Liverpool. Missed pre season (although I’m sure he was training) and still not up to speed. Sterling not played competitively for over a year. On what basis does anyone think he would be a good SHORT term fix ? Mental.

Because of the need to replace Sarr and who is available to loan, any suggestions

 

[beak]

Do you have any loan suggestions?

If I did I would want Dougie Freedman's salary. I know he has left.

 

[NMPalace]

Because of the need to replace Sarr and who is available to loan, any suggestions

i know we are looking at George at Chelsea, but that will probably be a purchase rather than a loan, if it was to happen.

Alternatives with prem experience who have 6 months left of their contracts so may be available for a loan or a small transfer fee are:

1. Solly March - 31 and yes plays for the scum but is right sided
2. Harry Wilson - Fulham. There is a good player in there but has often been used as a sub over the last couple of seasons
3. Adama Traore - Fulham. The move to Fulham hasn't really worked but on his day he is almost unplayable. May not have the discipline for a Glasner team and is probably on big wages

Going abroad and getting a Uche type would be a big short term gamble

 

[Willo]

i know we are looking at George at Chelsea, but that will probably be a purchase rather than a loan, if it was to happen.

Alternatives with prem experience who have 6 months left of their contracts so may be available for a loan or a small transfer fee are:

1. Solly March - 31 and yes plays for the scum but is right sided
2. Harry Wilson - Fulham. There is a good player in there but has often been used as a sub over the last couple of seasons
3. Adama Traore - Fulham. The move to Fulham hasn't really worked but on his day he is almost unplayable. May not have the discipline for a Glasner team and is probably on big wages

Going abroad and getting a Uche type would be a big short term gamble

Solly March is left-footed but has been deployed on the right wing and he is content to shoot with his right foot from the edge of the area.I am informed that he has occasionally filled-in at left-back.

Harry Wilson is another left-footed player.He has favoured a position behind the strikers. A 'Wand' of a left-foot and a genuine expert at free kicks over a wall.

Adama Traore's has impressive physical attributes and is exceedingly fleet of foot but in the past the prevailing feeling has been that he flatters to deceive. Inconsistency has been a problem.