Teddy Eagle
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With a name like Igor he should be playing next to Harry Maguire.
Parish Conundrum
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crvenaeagle
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I don't think the board make their decisions based on what they read in The Sun mate.
A release clause, means he can leave at anytime if bid for that price comes in, then we have no choice but to sell him. So, its pointless at £35m.
Hrolf The Ganger
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He has played one game for Brighton.
If he ever plays in the league for us, I'll be surprised. I expect to see him in a handful of cup games.
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Neither Parish nor Glasner might have any conundrum to think about!
If Marc decides not to sign anything then there’s nothing they can do. We could sign several experienced PL ready centre backs today and still have Marc. Glasner would be happy, even if Parish wasn’t.
Presumably though Marc, or more likely his agent, has indicated he is open to a move. Maybe then Glasner’s words last night, and in recent days, are more intended for Marc than for Steve, and are to tell him how loved and appreciated he is.
We will know in 9 hours or so. I just hope, whatever the outcome, that Glasner can come to terms with it. Not everything is in our control or goes exactly to plan.
If Marc decides not to sign anything then there’s nothing they can do. We could sign several experienced PL ready centre backs today and still have Marc. Glasner would be happy, even if Parish wasn’t.
Presumably though Marc, or more likely his agent, has indicated he is open to a move. Maybe then Glasner’s words last night, and in recent days, are more intended for Marc than for Steve, and are to tell him how loved and appreciated he is.
We will know in 9 hours or so. I just hope, whatever the outcome, that Glasner can come to terms with it. Not everything is in our control or goes exactly to plan.
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With OG's comments on the BBC website it's obvious that Marc needs to stay or he'll have lost alot of the trust set up with Parish. Also, talk of losing out on £35/40Mio cos he'll go on a free at the end of the season is not correct, we'll need to pay at least say £20-£25 Mil to get a replacement in anyway and with no guarantee it'll be money well spent as we'll be panic buying. Also hopefully keeping him could raise more with potentially a higher finish and maybe a conference win and associated income. Marc HAS to stay, end of !!
hythemaceagle
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Any club which sells its most creative player and then its club captain does not deserve success!
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I imagine the long-term replacement (Canvot) is already here. If the loan for Julio is agreed today, that will tide us over for a year whilst we see if Canvot will make the grade. It will also enable us to discover whether Riad will get fully fit again and be over his injury issues come next Summer.
There shouldn't be any question of panic buying if this scenario is correct.
IMO if we sign Julio on loan today, Marc will be a Liverpool player come this evening.
PJH
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We will lose Glasner then, which will cost us alot more than £35Mio.
doombear
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Glasner will leave at the end of this season come what may. A bigger club will be in for him. In the meantime he'll continue to ensure his stock rises as he guides Palace to our highest PL finish and quite possibly another piece of silverware. IMO, he's not going to risk messing up by throwing his toys out of the pram over Guehi and walking out early.
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Looks like Bayer levukusen have sacked ten haag 😬
Rudi Hedman
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Sorry but this doesn’t make sense. If we’re spending £20-25 mil on a replacement it’s either today or next summer. One or the other. And we will miss out on £35-40 mil if Guehi leaves at the end of the season.
Football obviously has a business side to it. My concern isn’t that players leave, because us at the size we are, it’s inevitable. What’s important is the replacement strategy and implementation being successful.
Rudi Hedman
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I think you’re probably right. But if Guehi goes we still need to and should replace him properly, and not just OG’s sake.
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It would be useful actually - our new boys bed in and Mark goes in January but for £35m
The Dolphin
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We also have to think about the new financial rules as well don't we.
If MG leaves on a free then we are minus £20m - the figure we paid for him?
That in turn will affect future transfer activity.
If MG leaves on a free then we are minus £20m - the figure we paid for him?
That in turn will affect future transfer activity.
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I've supported Parish and his approach to running the club, but on this occassion he's screwed up and if we don't sell Marc and lose that £35million without a replacement that Glasner approves, then that's Parish's fault.
Glasner has said several times that targets and where we need to strengthen the squad were identified straight after the FA Cup win, if not before. It was obvious as well that Eze and Guehi (along with potentially others like Mateta and Wharton) would be attracting attention from other clubs and now Glasner has said that we needed Marc's replacement by the 1st July, not on tranfer deadline day, which I completely agree with. IMHO Parish got far too wrapped up in the Europa stuff and took his eye off the ball with the transfers, especially with not having Dougie to fall back on.
If we sell Guehi without a replacement I can see Glasner shrugging his shoulders and going at the first opportunity that comes up. Is it really in our interests to sell Guehi for £35 million right now? Liverpool are only thinking about themselves obviously and wouldn't even entertain a loan deal with Gomez to help get the deal over the line which might have placated Glasner a bit. If we sell Guehi for £35 million then we don't even get that, as it's widely speculated that Chelsea have a 20% sell on clause, so they'd get £7 million, leaving us with £28 million. Realistically, right now who could we sign that would walk straight into Guehi's shoes, on transfer deadline day for £28 million that would please Glasner?
I say we tell Liverpool to get stuffed, keep Guehi till the end of the season and spend that time actually getting a good replacement in. Whilst we don't have the money of others, we're not on the breadline anymore and I think the potential losses we'd make if everything fell apart is more than what we'd actually get from this deal. We have these billionairre backers, time for them to step up.
If we keep Marc, we keep Glasner happy (which is the contract signing I actually want to see) and Marc won't give anything less than his all whilst he's here (unlike Isak and Wissa) and keeps the team morale high.
Pivotal moment this, could literally define not only this season but quite a few more to come.
Glasner has said several times that targets and where we need to strengthen the squad were identified straight after the FA Cup win, if not before. It was obvious as well that Eze and Guehi (along with potentially others like Mateta and Wharton) would be attracting attention from other clubs and now Glasner has said that we needed Marc's replacement by the 1st July, not on tranfer deadline day, which I completely agree with. IMHO Parish got far too wrapped up in the Europa stuff and took his eye off the ball with the transfers, especially with not having Dougie to fall back on.
If we sell Guehi without a replacement I can see Glasner shrugging his shoulders and going at the first opportunity that comes up. Is it really in our interests to sell Guehi for £35 million right now? Liverpool are only thinking about themselves obviously and wouldn't even entertain a loan deal with Gomez to help get the deal over the line which might have placated Glasner a bit. If we sell Guehi for £35 million then we don't even get that, as it's widely speculated that Chelsea have a 20% sell on clause, so they'd get £7 million, leaving us with £28 million. Realistically, right now who could we sign that would walk straight into Guehi's shoes, on transfer deadline day for £28 million that would please Glasner?
I say we tell Liverpool to get stuffed, keep Guehi till the end of the season and spend that time actually getting a good replacement in. Whilst we don't have the money of others, we're not on the breadline anymore and I think the potential losses we'd make if everything fell apart is more than what we'd actually get from this deal. We have these billionairre backers, time for them to step up.
If we keep Marc, we keep Glasner happy (which is the contract signing I actually want to see) and Marc won't give anything less than his all whilst he's here (unlike Isak and Wissa) and keeps the team morale high.
Pivotal moment this, could literally define not only this season but quite a few more to come.
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A lot of people seem to think we need to bend over backwards to keep Glasner happy, but he knew exactly what he was walking into when he signed on. He’s no fool. Every manager wants more players in and to hold onto their best, so his comments aren’t surprising. Is it frustrating that business wasn’t done earlier or more aggressively? Of course. But that’s the way Parish has always operated, and it won’t change.
Glasner signed a 2.5 year deal knowing Palace is a stepping stone. He’d already walked out on Frankfurt after falling out with their sporting director, so it’s hardly a shock that bigger clubs might have been wary about handing him the keys to a rebuild straight away. Parish could throw everything at him, even risk the club’s future to keep him sweet, but if Glasner gets a sniff of a bigger job, he won’t think twice. And we all know Parish isn’t going down that road – not after the way he came to be in control at Palace in the first place.
That “feel good” post last week about him playing mini golf with his family and bumping into Palace fans actually hit me differently. Nice story, sure, but it also showed his family still live in Austria – they were just visiting. If one of the big German jobs comes up next summer, that’s going to be very hard for him to turn down.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been a Palace fan going on 40 years (wow, that hurts to say out loud 😅) and this is the most exciting time I’ve ever had following the club. We should enjoy the ride while Ollie’s here, make the most of it, and not stress about if or when he leaves. We can’t control that – and as much as it may pain the Parish-haters to admit, it’s probably a little out of his control too.
Glasner signed a 2.5 year deal knowing Palace is a stepping stone. He’d already walked out on Frankfurt after falling out with their sporting director, so it’s hardly a shock that bigger clubs might have been wary about handing him the keys to a rebuild straight away. Parish could throw everything at him, even risk the club’s future to keep him sweet, but if Glasner gets a sniff of a bigger job, he won’t think twice. And we all know Parish isn’t going down that road – not after the way he came to be in control at Palace in the first place.
That “feel good” post last week about him playing mini golf with his family and bumping into Palace fans actually hit me differently. Nice story, sure, but it also showed his family still live in Austria – they were just visiting. If one of the big German jobs comes up next summer, that’s going to be very hard for him to turn down.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been a Palace fan going on 40 years (wow, that hurts to say out loud 😅) and this is the most exciting time I’ve ever had following the club. We should enjoy the ride while Ollie’s here, make the most of it, and not stress about if or when he leaves. We can’t control that – and as much as it may pain the Parish-haters to admit, it’s probably a little out of his control too.
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What potential losses are you suggesting if we sold Guehi and bought a replacement? It sounds like you’re thinking relegation because even lower league places to 17th won’t quite total £28 mil. I don’t disagree with your post. I just wondered.
There is of course a downside to having players run down their contracts. Other players see the temptation. We were too scared to sell Zaha. We did arguably better with Sarr than Olise, but perhaps that’s down to OG. Maybe OG will sign a new contract if we keep him happy. I don’t think he will, but what do we know. You could go round and round with these issues.
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Not relegation so much (although I don't think I'll ever quite shake that goal of 4th from bottom every season!) more of a slightly negative "what if" scenario.
I think more than the money it's just a feeling that we could be on the verge of getting some momentum and building on that success we've had. Perhaps starting to attract the "bigger" players (not Neil Ruddock bigger, but you get what I mean...) that we can use to try and be knocking on the door of Europe via the league every year and with that the potential for more income into the club.
Without wishing to sound too dramatic, it feels like we're at a fork in the path right this second. One path looks like it could lead to bigger and better things, whilst the other not so much and more scrabbling around to make sure we're in the top half of the bottom half of the league. We don't rely on one player anymore like we did with Wilf, but I wonder if Guehi leaving now would start a domino affect, whilst his staying (even till January) might have the opposite affect.
Who knows, as you say you can go round and round with all of this!
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It is transfer deadline day so to add to the 'pile on' of speculation
If Parish were to p1ss Glasner off there is a much better job than Man U opened up at Bayer Leverkusen
www.bbc.co.uk
Then again Guehi might stay and he could go there anywhere
THIS IS HORRIBLE
If Parish were to p1ss Glasner off there is a much better job than Man U opened up at Bayer Leverkusen
Erik ten Hag sacked: Bayer Leverkusen fire ex-Man Utd boss after two league games
Former Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag is sacked by Bayer Leverkusen after just two league matches in charge.
www.bbc.co.uk
Then again Guehi might stay and he could go there anywhere
THIS IS HORRIBLE