Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

Has the actual rule been posted here? If so I apologise, but here it is. I fail to see how we transcend any of the requirements so think we must have a very good case at CAS:-

“Article 5 Integrity of the competition/multi-club ownership
5.01
To ensure the integrity of the UEFA club competitions (i.e. UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Conference League), the club must be able to prove that as at 1 March 2025 the below multi-club ownership criteria were met and the club must continue to comply with the below criteria from that date until the end of the competition season:

  1. No club participating in a UEFA club competition may, either directly or indirectly:
    1. hold or deal in the securities or shares of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition;
    2. be a member of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition;
    3. be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; or
    4. have any power whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition.
  2. No one may simultaneously be involved, either directly or indirectly, in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition.
  3. No individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition, such control or influence being defined in this context as:
    1. holding a majority of the shareholders’ voting rights;
    2. having the right to appoint or remove a majority of the members of the administrative, management or supervisory body of the club;
    3. being a shareholder and alone controlling a majority of the shareholders’ voting rights pursuant to an agreement entered into with other shareholders of the club; or
    4. being able to exercise by any means a decisive influence in the decision-making of the club.”

Textor was not involved in the management, administration or sporting performance.

He was not able to exercise decisive influence.
 
NEILLO said:
Yes, that was the Blind Trust deadline that was apparently communicated in the infamous email. So MCO clubs needed to either have the relevant shares put into a Blind Trust or of course, sold
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OK Just read Wisbech Eagles post above so I take this back.
 
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ASCPFC said:
It's always fun to be at the Aussies. Even though they have been s*** for years.
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And to be fair to them only about 30 people play the game over there. Even so the first half had some some great stuff from the Lions with Gibson-Park and Russell particularly playing excellently. In the second half we were more passive, almost too much to be honest, but still looked as though we could have scored again had we needed to. Hope we stuff them in Melbourne.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And to be fair to them only about 30 people play the game over there. Even so the first half had some some great stuff from the Lions with Gibson-Park and Russell particularly playing excellently. In the second half we were more passive, almost too much to be honest, but still looked as though we could have scored again had we needed to. Hope we stuff them in Melbourne.
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The other thirty play for Ireland.
 
NEILLO said:
Yep, roll over and let the corruption continue😡
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Sorry I am of the 'Willo' brand of pessimism but in view of the highlighted incidents of alleged UEFA malfeasance and big club bias and the fact I can't see any Palace compliance with the rules, stupid as they are, it is sensible to be pragmatic and make the best of it.

However, should I be proved wrong I will be delighted and thus follow the proven track record of my associate, Willo, God bless him.
 
Uphill said:
Sorry I am of the 'Willo' brand of pessimism but in view of the highlighted incidents of alleged UEFA malfeasance and big club bias and the fact I can't see any Palace compliance with the rules, stupid as they are, it is sensible to be pragmatic and make the best of it.

However, should I be proved wrong I will be delighted and thus follow the proven track record of my associate, Willo, God bless him.
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Malfeasance. Gotta be word of the day/week or month tips hat. Willo, over to you. C'mon lad.
 
Uphill said:
Anyone know what bookies are offering on the CAS outcome?

My personal estimate of our chances:
Yes 5% Rejection 95%

That's why I've been saying to take our 'demotion' and move on. We've a better chance in the Conference and we need to concentrate on the PL.
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OK so would you be prepared to lay me £100 of your own money to £5 of my own? If £100 is too much tell me how much you would feel safe to fork out and that will be a good guide to what the odds are.
 
maddog said:
Good point. So the 1st March deadline relates to setting up a blind trust. There is no blind trust for CFCB to examine so the deadline does not apply to Palace.

And there is no breach of the MCO rules since Textor no longer holds shares in both clubs!

UEFA has no case against us.
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It is my opinion that CPFC are not in breach of any UEFA regulations relating to MCO, which means if any advice were offered to both John Textor and David Blitzer by the club secretary, it would be that no blind trust is necessary.

5.01 (a) only applies to clubs that are fully integrated and incorporated as MCO clubs, which clearly Palace is not.

5.01 (b) might only be relevant if Steve Parish held shares in other clubs, which he does not. As CEO, he alone has overall managerial responsibility for Crystal Palace and only for Crystal Palace.

5.01 (c iv) has undoubtedly been the regulation that the CFCB believes John Textor has some form of, “… decisive influence in the decision-making of the club.” But neither his voting share, set at 25%, nor in his managerial responsibilities, of which he had none, indicates this. Indeed, there has to be a reasonable threshold of probability that he had a decisive influence, even in an ad hoc capacity, but of course there is none.

This brought me to the conclusion that this extra time UEFA has given the CFCB needs to be acted upon, through their powers of scrutiny and investigation. In other words, they should not be just waiting for an issue to arise, their remit is to be actively looking into every club that has directors or legal entities in more than one other club that come under UEFA’s area of jurisdiction.

And this is why I do not believe the CFCB have undertaken any investigation from the 1st of March onwards. If they had it would have resulted in extensive correspondence coming to light between the club secretary, John Textor, David Blitzer, and the CFCB in clarifying our MCO status, which would have been cited at the disciplinary hearing. And if there is no evidence of any correspondence, then there is no evidence of any investigation having been carried out by the CFCB; and if this is the case, then there is conclusive proof that UEFA have been wilfully negligent in their delegated responsibilities.

If Crystal Palace can prove this not only does the case collapse in terms of MCO compliance, Palace would then be entitled to sue UEFA for gross negligence in an out-of-court settlement that could change the whole way football has been mismanaged for the benefit of a global elite who have no intrinsic connection with the game where it matters most: in our families and in our community.
 
I have read the email sent

Dear cousin

I think I can upgrade your ticket to Europe league , but you mustn't let this get out . send a letter in asking if that bunch are allowed in Europa league ,
We massaged the rules to take that south London mob is out 👍 ,
I have sorted out my mate to take your blind shares like last time if needed👍👍
Wife asked if your coming to tea later , we have a whole hog roast for you

from your loving cousin Theodore xx
 
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