Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

[Vaibow]

If this is the kind of persona that you feel is in line with our club and the people in and around it then perhaps you're mistaken.

If you're welcoming it, on the other hand, just because it will "trigger the snowflakes" then you need to take up some hobbies and readjust your living situation.

Morgan Freeman would agree with most of that screen shot... so?!? would he not be welcome at Selhurst?

 

[mtp1958]

I'll bother about them when they finish building the colloseum.

thats the name of the building firm thats building our new stand 😛😛😛

 

[Teddy Eagle]

thats the name of the building firm thats building our new stand 😛😛😛

In partnership with Deadslow, Stop, Sloth & Brolin.

 

[Davepalace707]

Before this news about Lyon, I thought that UEFA’s position was we’d been given til the end of June to show that Textor had no control. Well we’ve clearly achieved that as he’s gone. So presumably that’s job done? I don’t see how Lyon are anything to do with it now as we’ve done as asked.

 

[Part Time James]

Before this news about Lyon, I thought that UEFA’s position was we’d been given til the end of June to show that Textor had no control. Well we’ve clearly achieved that as he’s gone. So presumably that’s job done? I don’t see how Lyon are anything to do with it now as we’ve done as asked.

I think people were hoping for some early white smoke based on an alternative get-out for Palace. Or even having both things to cling on to at once. But you're right, could be irrelevant.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

Has it been confirmed that we have booked our place in the Europa league yet? Our friends on the south coast are getting really agitated that it’s taking so long to get sorted, not only that they have dedicated 135 pages on the subject on NSC, only just behind to “is your mortgage coming to an end”

You couldn’t make that club up….

 

[Part Time James]

Has it been confirmed that we have booked our place in the Europa league yet? Our friends on the south coast are getting really agitated that it’s taking so long to get sorted, not only that they have dedicated 135 pages on the subject on NSC, only just behind to “is your mortgage coming to an end”

You couldn’t make that club up….

We're on 72 pages but I think a good 50% of that has been spent on tangents where the topic has been totally derailed by very silly boys.

When's everyone here's mortgage coming to an end out of interest?

 

[Part Time James]

Talking of our chums on the seafront, the BBC posted up on Facebook that they'd signed some other obscure player and I commented "mark my words, this team will win a trophy in the next century" and because I'm not a regular FB user I totally forgot I'd done it. I had a lot of notifications when I next logged on. Oops.

 

[Tlsestu]

Before this news about Lyon, I thought that UEFA’s position was we’d been given til the end of June to show that Textor had no control. Well we’ve clearly achieved that as he’s gone. So presumably that’s job done? I don’t see how Lyon are anything to do with it now as we’ve done as asked.

Textor may have rubbed too many people up the wrong way including Nasser Al-Khelaifi at PSG and it's all coming home to roost.

 

[NEILLO]

Before this news about Lyon, I thought that UEFA’s position was we’d been given til the end of June to show that Textor had no control. Well we’ve clearly achieved that as he’s gone. So presumably that’s job done? I don’t see how Lyon are anything to do with it now as we’ve done as asked.

But….Palace weren’t compliant at the time that they could have averted the problem - 1/3/25. And that could be UEFA’s position.

The counter argument is that the deadline is unworkable in our case.

Just my opinion but I think all along Palace believed they could prove the extent of Textors influence and that it wouldn’t be an issue . In fact that’s all they could do in the circumstances.

Textor selling his shares hurriedly and at a reported discount I think is irrelevant given the financial issues at Lyon.

As I’ve said before, UEFA’s rule is not fit for purpose. Multi club ownership is not going to go away , so they need to think carefully about how they govern this going forward

 

[mileend]

Textor may have rubbed too many people up the wrong way including Nasser Al-Khelaifi at PSG and it's all coming home to roost.

If you want to read about how badly Textor has done at Lyon have a look at this:

Lyon thought they were too big to fail. Now they face a season in Ligue 2

Ignorance, hubris and exceptionalism have driven a once great football club to the edge of the abyss

www.theguardian.com

Stunning how he thought he would be the person to make good decisions instead of Parish - but perhaps he was just desperate to asset strip Palace of their best players to try and prop up Lyon?

Whatever the result of the Europa Cup, and I'm hoping and expecting good news, perhaps tomorrow, if as a consequence we've got rid of Textor that could be a massive bullet dodged. Maybe it will be out of the frying pan and into the fire but I'm very pleased he's gone.

 

[puncheon_judy]

If you want to read about how badly Textor has done at Lyon have a look at this:

Lyon thought they were too big to fail. Now they face a season in Ligue 2

Ignorance, hubris and exceptionalism have driven a once great football club to the edge of the abyss

www.theguardian.com

Stunning how he thought he would be the person to make good decisions instead of Parish - but perhaps he was just desperate to asset strip Palace of their best players to try and prop up Lyon?

Whatever the result of the Europa Cup, and I'm hoping and expecting good news, perhaps tomorrow, if as a consequence we've got rid of Textor that could be a massive bullet dodged. Maybe it will be out of the frying pan and into the fire but I'm very pleased he's gone.

There was an interesting article released this morning about how Lyon got into this position, including all of the pre-Textor poor decisions: FEATURE | Why have Lyon been relegated to Ligue 2 and how could Crystal Palace offer them a lifeline? - Get French Football News

 

[adelaar]

We're on 72 pages but I think a good 50% of that has been spent on tangents where the topic has been totally derailed by very silly boys.

When's everyone here's mortgage coming to an end out of interest?

Next summer. Which is probably the same time we will hear about whether we are participating in the Europa League or not.

 

[Norbury Old Git]

There was an interesting article released this morning about how Lyon got into this position, including all of the pre-Textor poor decisions: FEATURE | Why have Lyon been relegated to Ligue 2 and how could Crystal Palace offer them a lifeline? - Get French Football News

I think the only hope that our ‘friends’ in the forest and on the beach are clinging on to is that Textor failed to meet the 1st March deadline for placing shares his shares in OL into a blind trust. In the Drogheda situation the Club was made aware that it would not qualify for the Conference League after Slikeborg beat Randers on the 1st June, the American owner of both clubs having failed to make the appropriate arrangements by the deadline. However, there was clear control and significant influence in that case. If UEFA was going to ignore Palace’s claim they would have told Parish and Textor straight away during their meeting in Switzerland. However, a new deadline of the end of June has been given and it appears the conditions have now been met.

 

[dreamwaverider]

But….Palace weren’t compliant at the time that they could have averted the problem - 1/3/25. And that could be UEFA’s position.

The counter argument is that the deadline is unworkable in our case.

Just my opinion but I think all along Palace believed they could prove the extent of Textors influence and that it wouldn’t be an issue . In fact that’s all they could do in the circumstances.

Textor selling his shares hurriedly and at a reported discount I think is irrelevant given the financial issues at Lyon.

As I’ve said before, UEFA’s rule is not fit for purpose. Multi club ownership is not going to go away , so they need to think carefully about how they govern this going forward

As a matter of interest Neillo, why do you feel we weren't compliant on 1/3/25?
Textor only had 25% voting rights and I thought the UEFA rule is 30%?
But I totally agree UEFA really need to try to find more clarity to the multi club issue.
Probably easier said than done when you consider all the grey areas surrounding us and Lyon.
The easiest would be to say in Europe, any club involved in any way in multi club ownership would be excluded from any european cup competition. But I can't see them saying that.

 

[NEILLO]

I think the only hope that our ‘friends’ in the forest and on the beach are clinging on to is that Textor failed to meet the 1st March deadline for placing shares his shares in OL into a blind trust. In the Drogheda situation the Club was made aware that it would not qualify for the Conference League after Slikeborg beat Randers on the 1st June, the American owner of both clubs having failed to make the appropriate arrangements by the deadline. However, there was clear control and significant influence in that case. If UEFA was going to ignore Palace’s claim they would have told Parish and Textor straight away during their meeting in Switzerland. However, a new deadline of the end of June has been given and it appears the conditions have now been met.

It was Textor's Palace shares that would have gone into a Blind Trust if our Board had owned a crystal ball.

My take on the Switzerland meeting is different from yours. Parish went to plead Palace's case. UEFA said they would investigate and a decision made by the end of June. I don't agree that they would have been in a position to dismiss a claim at that time as it clearly requires their investigation. Otherwise, conversely, UEFA could have given the green light for entry into the CL

There has been no mention of an end of June deadline for compliance as far as I can recall. Given that UEFA reportedly rejected Textor's offer - made in that meeting - to place his shares into a Blind Trust, I wouldn't assume that '' conditions have now been met ''. We simply don't know.

 

[NEILLO]

As a matter of interest Neillo, why do you feel we weren't compliant on 1/3/25?
Textor only had 25% voting rights and I thought the UEFA rule is 30%?
But I totally agree UEFA really need to try to find more clarity to the multi club issue.
Probably easier said than done when you consider all the grey areas surrounding us and Lyon.
The easiest would be to say in Europe, any club involved in any way in multi club ownership would be excluded from any european cup competition. But I can't see them saying that.

Well Textor's voting rights v. the amount of his shareholding is one of the key points. It's an unusual situation, and one that seems likely to continue with Johnson albeit without the multi club ownership.

Palace have to prove to UEFA that Textor did not have the level of influence that a majority shareholder would usually have.

My expectation is that UEFA would then need to examine Palace's constitutional documentation including any activity between the clubs in Eagle Holdings portfolio.

On the face of it, the new deadline for dodging the rules - which UEFA enable with that deadline - makes a mockery of the whole thing. If that deadline had been kept at it's previous date of 1/6/25 it's possible that Textor would have been able to go down the Blind Trust route. And we wouldn't be hanging on for a decision.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

As a matter of interest Neillo, why do you feel we weren't compliant on 1/3/25?
Textor only had 25% voting rights and I thought the UEFA rule is 30%?
But I totally agree UEFA really need to try to find more clarity to the multi club issue.
Probably easier said than done when you consider all the grey areas surrounding us and Lyon.
The easiest would be to say in Europe, any club involved in any way in multi club ownership would be excluded from any european cup competition. But I can't see them saying that.

We were not compliant because UEFA said so, the thing we dont know is if the info needed, is pre March, or is post March adequate.

 

[NEILLO]

We were not compliant because UEFA said so, the thing we dont know is if the info needed, is pre March, or is post March adequate.

My understanding ( which ain't much ! ) is that the intent to place shares into a Blind Trust is 1/3/25 and execution to be completed by end of April.

That's why some have claimed that the Forest owner missed the 1/3 deadline as the transaction didn't complete until into April

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Also, if Textor recomends a player, friendly, coach etc, and the other three agree, does that count in having no control over decissions. if he has proposed it, its a minefield.