Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

UEFA breaks its own rules regarding 'political' banners in stadiums before during or after matches . . .


AKA the Arabs who run UEFA put up an anti Jew message to the Jew club comdemning the actions of another nation, promoting a sectarian movement by a non nation within.

Do you think Macabbi Haifi / Tel Aviv are going to let them show this at their games? Gutless arabs won't do it.
 
At the end of the day we missed the deadline.

Who would have known we would win the cup at the time.

We should have just admit it all and come at a different angle with uefa.

Anyways no need to keep going on and on about it.
But “we” didn’t. Textor did, if he knew, and he would only have known if either of the clubs he had an interest in had told him. We could do nothing ourselves and almost certainly didn’t think that UEFA would choose to interpret the rules the way they have or if they intended to would have taken special care to ensure clubs like us knew the circumstances.

Emails to an “info@ email address tend to end up in junk boxes. Important matters go directly to chief executives with a read receipt demanded.
 

Surprise, surprise.

With Strasbourg starting the season well I bet UEFA are currently rushing around trying to find a solution to ensure the Chelsea Strasbourg MCO can both enter the Champions League. With probably about 20 players transferred/loaned between the clubs I'm sure a poxy blind trust will be enough to maintain sporting integrity.
 

Surprise, surprise.

With Strasbourg starting the season well I bet UEFA are currently rushing around trying to find a solution to ensure the Chelsea Strasbourg MCO can both enter the Champions League. With probably about 20 players transferred/loaned between the clubs I'm sure a poxy blind trust will be enough to maintain sporting integrity.

We’d still find a way to miss the deadline
 

Surprise, surprise.

With Strasbourg starting the season well I bet UEFA are currently rushing around trying to find a solution to ensure the Chelsea Strasbourg MCO can both enter the Champions League. With probably about 20 players transferred/loaned between the clubs I'm sure a poxy blind trust will be enough to maintain sporting integrity.
to me thats a admission of guilt on UEFA part that they got it wrong with there interpretation of there own rules , Sue the sh#t out of them I say
 
to me thats a admission of guilt on UEFA part that they got it wrong with there interpretation of there own rules , Sue the sh#t out of them I say
Without revisiting old arguments on here, when UEFA moved the deadline to March 1st they made it nigh on impossible for Palace to comply.

There were rumours already circulating in the summer about a further change as a result ( possibly ) of our dispute with them. And here it is.

There are no grounds to sue. Both UEFA and then CAS found Palace in breach of the rules as they stood in March this year. There is no change of their rather flimsy interpretation of their own rules.
 
Without revisiting old arguments on here, when UEFA moved the deadline to March 1st they made it nigh on impossible for Palace to comply.

There were rumours already circulating in the summer about a further change as a result ( possibly ) of our dispute with them. And here it is.

There are no grounds to sue. Both UEFA and then CAS found Palace in breach of the rules as they stood in March this year. There is no change of their rather flimsy interpretation of their own rules.
UEFA are like little rich kids when they can get what they want , Do you know who I am I can do what I like , UEFA there just power hungry oligarchs
 

Surprise, surprise.

With Strasbourg starting the season well I bet UEFA are currently rushing around trying to find a solution to ensure the Chelsea Strasbourg MCO can both enter the Champions League. With probably about 20 players transferred/loaned between the clubs I'm sure a poxy blind trust will be enough to maintain sporting integrity.
Quick, get Textor back. No, hang on a minute!
 
Steve Parish has responded to reporter Bobby Manzi's post on X and story https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/25668144.parishs-palace-contract-used-evidence-multi-club-case/ about the chairman's contract being used as evidence in the CAS hearing.


"Come on Mr Manzi that’s cherry picking of a long ruling to create mischief and make it look like the club had no case. I am sure having diligently read the whole ruling you know that this is not in any way a fair reflection. I don’t think anyone doubts who makes decisions at the football club - indeed Bobby you generally blame me for pretty much every goal we concede, so it’s a particularly strange point for you to try to make.

In the context of our case that employment contract is an irrelevant formality. I am one of four main owners and partners and I act as principle partner at the club and again as I am sure you will have read our case was based on three distinct things.Sporting Merit - the rule says that in the event of a conflict the club that takes precedence is the one that qualifies for the higher UCC comp on ‘Sporting Merit’.

We say we won the FA cup and qualified directly for Europa League, as opposed to Lyon who qualified on sporting merit to the Conference League were reclassified into Europa League because PSG won the domestic cup but didn’t need the Europa place having already qualified for the Champions league. The court struggled to find a reason for this clause if it wasn’t to give a club in our situation precedence. Three judges on the panel and we lost this 2-1 - very much ‘hitting the bar’ if you like.

We remain of the opinion that we are right on this point and one judge did concur (much as we didn’t want Lyon fans to lose out either ) Anti Trust (unequal treatment) - We knew, and the court and UEFA’s lawyers basically accepted, that other clubs had been given past the 1st March deadline to comply for various reasons, not least because there were conflicting communications about the date and it didn’t leave time to sell or even get clubs into trusts .

We were also in turn told by the original panel chair, both on the record and informally, that if the the buyout of the shareholder in question was completed prior to the draw that would likely be a cure as clearly no distortion of the competition could then occur, especially as the process to sell had begun prior to March 1st. On this basis we spent the summer with Woody’s help completing a difficult and complex $200+ transaction only to still be removed. We strongly believe this was unequal treatment and that were we in any other court where competition law was properly applied we would have won this point.

For technical reasons it’s hard for us to get UEFA outside of their own system and into a ‘higher’ court but I believe this will change over time (although not necessarily a good thing overall) . Decisive Influence - We never argued in court or publicly that JT had no ‘influence’, we argued that in reality myself and the exec team at the club made the decisions and in any event he was 1 of 4 votes so his vote wasn’t in any way decisive, this was backed up by my other partners with whom there is a long standing relationship and a great deal of trust and indeed JT’s own evidence and many public pronouncements that he felt he had no influence. The court sadly for us decided ‘any potential’ for influence is decisive .

As a footnote I would say The UEFA disciplinary and CAS appeal process has some benefits against say the full judicial system that the Premier League have saddled themselves with. It moves faster and allows the system to run effectively but in our view is too skewed towards expedience and as such can produce unfair outcomes and unequal treatment of some clubs. Apologies for the long post but this is detailed and important stuff, how clubs are treated in these process matters and can’t be dealt with in click bait - In the end we thank the judges for their time and we move forward."
 
Steve Parish has responded to reporter Bobby Manzi's post on X and story https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/25668144.parishs-palace-contract-used-evidence-multi-club-case/ about the chairman's contract being used as evidence in the CAS hearing.


"Come on Mr Manzi that’s cherry picking of a long ruling to create mischief and make it look like the club had no case. I am sure having diligently read the whole ruling you know that this is not in any way a fair reflection. I don’t think anyone doubts who makes decisions at the football club - indeed Bobby you generally blame me for pretty much every goal we concede, so it’s a particularly strange point for you to try to make.

In the context of our case that employment contract is an irrelevant formality. I am one of four main owners and partners and I act as principle partner at the club and again as I am sure you will have read our case was based on three distinct things.Sporting Merit - the rule says that in the event of a conflict the club that takes precedence is the one that qualifies for the higher UCC comp on ‘Sporting Merit’.

We say we won the FA cup and qualified directly for Europa League, as opposed to Lyon who qualified on sporting merit to the Conference League were reclassified into Europa League because PSG won the domestic cup but didn’t need the Europa place having already qualified for the Champions league. The court struggled to find a reason for this clause if it wasn’t to give a club in our situation precedence. Three judges on the panel and we lost this 2-1 - very much ‘hitting the bar’ if you like.

We remain of the opinion that we are right on this point and one judge did concur (much as we didn’t want Lyon fans to lose out either ) Anti Trust (unequal treatment) - We knew, and the court and UEFA’s lawyers basically accepted, that other clubs had been given past the 1st March deadline to comply for various reasons, not least because there were conflicting communications about the date and it didn’t leave time to sell or even get clubs into trusts .

We were also in turn told by the original panel chair, both on the record and informally, that if the the buyout of the shareholder in question was completed prior to the draw that would likely be a cure as clearly no distortion of the competition could then occur, especially as the process to sell had begun prior to March 1st. On this basis we spent the summer with Woody’s help completing a difficult and complex $200+ transaction only to still be removed. We strongly believe this was unequal treatment and that were we in any other court where competition law was properly applied we would have won this point.

For technical reasons it’s hard for us to get UEFA outside of their own system and into a ‘higher’ court but I believe this will change over time (although not necessarily a good thing overall) . Decisive Influence - We never argued in court or publicly that JT had no ‘influence’, we argued that in reality myself and the exec team at the club made the decisions and in any event he was 1 of 4 votes so his vote wasn’t in any way decisive, this was backed up by my other partners with whom there is a long standing relationship and a great deal of trust and indeed JT’s own evidence and many public pronouncements that he felt he had no influence. The court sadly for us decided ‘any potential’ for influence is decisive .

As a footnote I would say The UEFA disciplinary and CAS appeal process has some benefits against say the full judicial system that the Premier League have saddled themselves with. It moves faster and allows the system to run effectively but in our view is too skewed towards expedience and as such can produce unfair outcomes and unequal treatment of some clubs. Apologies for the long post but this is detailed and important stuff, how clubs are treated in these process matters and can’t be dealt with in click bait - In the end we thank the judges for their time and we move forward."
Thank you.
That's the fullest explanation I've seen of what happened.
 
Who knows how we would have got on in the Europa League, given we’re not exactly setting the Conference alight. But we would have got more money out of it for sure.
And I think that this is the crux of the problem with Ollie being unhappy with our transfer business; we never knew until it was too late which competition we were playing in and consequently what funds would be available. Glasner is doing a brilliant job with what money and resources we have.
 
Who knows how we would have got on in the Europa League, given we’re not exactly setting the Conference alight. But we would have got more money out of it for sure.
To be honest, I like many others I’m sure weren’t expecting us to pull up any trees, despite the media having us down as favourites. As palace fans, we know where we’re at with our small squad and no European experience. Playing so many midweek games, especially still being in the carabao cup was always going to be a struggle for us.

Some of the European games haven’t been great, but I’m still enjoying being in it however it ends up
 

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