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Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

Lanzo-Ad said:
The thing is, it doesn't matter what the rules say, the key was getting confirmation from UEFA in advance, If you have that there is no problem, If, and i say If, we haven't met the criteria then the fault is with Palace not UEFA, lets hope that this isn't the case.
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Do you have any idea how cringey and embarrassing that sounds?
 
Jim_Cannon said:
BBC is good source material as they will only post these sort of articles after decent amount of research

All those saying why didn’t we put into blind trust should read this. Blind trust was unlikely to ever be a viable solution for us, combined with Textor looking to sell his stake
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Thats laughable. You mean when they reported last week that Israel had bombed a Palestinian hospital killing over 30 children (because HAMAS told them) only to have to remove the article and apologise because American news agencies proved it was a pack of lies? That BBC? They do decent research?
 
According to HMRC, a Person With Significant Control (PSC) of a company must fulfil one or more of the following criteria:
- hold more than 25% of shares
- hold more than 25% of voting rights
- have the right to appoint or remove the majority of the board of directors.
(Source - Gov.uk website)
So Textor is legally a PSC under criteria 1. He could change this by reducing his shareholding to 25% or less.
 
est1905 said:
Thats laughable. You mean when they reported last week that Israel had bombed a Palestinian hospital killing over 30 children (because HAMAS told them) only to have to remove the article and apologise because American news agencies proved it was a pack of lies? That BBC? They do decent research?
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Steady on. This was a sports article and typically BBC only tend to print when more concrete outside of their general opinion pieces or gossip column.
 
est1905 said:
Do you have any idea how cringey and embarrassing that sounds?
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Are you Sarf Norwood reborn, you haven't a clue, have you ever run a business, its the norm of any Administrator to check any changes in the Criteria for any competition that you hope to enter, and if we had done that then all would be sorted, do you and Nello go to the same club?
 
From Sam Wallace in today's Telegraph - excerpt from his article '' UEFA Making An Example Of Crystal Palace Would Be Farcical ''

All that is at risk because an investor with no decisive influence, at a club which has no MCO relationship with Palace, did not place his shares in a blind trust three months ago. Why that deadline had been moved forward by Uefa from June 1 last year is not clear. Either way, by March 1, Palace were only just playing their fifth-round tie against Millwall.

The rule presupposes that Textor should put his shares in Palace in a blind trust every year on the off-chance the club might win a trophy they had never won before. Either way, had they thought of it at the time, Parish, Blitzer and Harris could not compel Textor to do so – they could only ask him.

Perhaps seeing it written by a third party might give it more authenticity than having me write it - although it does replicate some of my previous posts.

By the way, just for info, I have run highly regulated businesses with multi million pound budgets across Europe.

And to confirm, I don't go to the same club as Est 1905, but if I did, I'd happily buy him a G and T or two.

Toodle Pip !
 
I think we’re screwed. I hope not but I think we are. Plenty of bigger clubs have broken the rules but won’t get punished. We however will be the one to make an example of. Little old Palace. F great. Next time you hear what a great job Parish is doing, remember the non existent Stand and the non existent European campaign.
 
Davepalace707 said:
I think we’re screwed. I hope not but I think we are. Plenty of bigger clubs have broken the rules but won’t get punished. We however will be the one to make an example of. Little old Palace. F great. Next time you hear what a great job Parish is doing, remember the non existent Stand and the non existent European campaign.
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Parish's model to run palace has been a gamble in the sense it's not typical...

He remains in control, uses others money to invest. That would be fine to turn a short term profit, if that investor took his money out and a new investor stepped in periodically but once you get into the big boys league, Europe, that's where the real sharks are and we aren't structured to compete as the rules have shown.

Realistically Parish should have sold to someone that had their own wealth to back the club.. would we be here now, would palace still feel the same? Who knows... but when ya think about it, do we still really want be 'little old palace'.
 
Vaibow said:
Parish's model to run palace has been a gamble in the sense it's not typical...

He remains in control, uses others money to invest. That would be fine to turn a short term profit, if that investor took his money out and a new investor stepped in periodically but once you get into the big boys league, Europe, that's where the real sharks are and we aren't structured to compete as the rules have shown.

Realistically Parish should have sold to someone that had their own wealth to back the club.. would we be here now, would palace still feel the same? Who knows... but when ya think about it, do we still really want be 'little old palace'.
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Taking all that risk and saving us from liquidation is not typical I guess
 
NEILLO said:
From Sam Wallace in today's Telegraph - excerpt from his article '' UEFA Making An Example Of Crystal Palace Would Be Farcical ''

All that is at risk because an investor with no decisive influence, at a club which has no MCO relationship with Palace, did not place his shares in a blind trust three months ago. Why that deadline had been moved forward by Uefa from June 1 last year is not clear. Either way, by March 1, Palace were only just playing their fifth-round tie against Millwall.

The rule presupposes that Textor should put his shares in Palace in a blind trust every year on the off-chance the club might win a trophy they had never won before. Either way, had they thought of it at the time, Parish, Blitzer and Harris could not compel Textor to do so – they could only ask him.

Perhaps seeing it written by a third party might give it more authenticity than having me write it - although it does replicate some of my previous posts.

By the way, just for info, I have run highly regulated businesses with multi million pound budgets across Europe.

And to confirm, I don't go to the same club as Est 1905, but if I did, I'd happily buy him a G and T or two.

Toodle Pip !
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For the sake of one last hurrah I think the decisive influence bit is key here.
 
Davepalace707 said:
I think we’re screwed. I hope not but I think we are. Plenty of bigger clubs have broken the rules but won’t get punished. We however will be the one to make an example of. Little old Palace. F great. Next time you hear what a great job Parish is doing, remember the non existent Stand and the non existent European campaign.
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This is what those UEFA assholes will do. They chucked us out before, and I think they're going to do it again because they are CORRUPT and BENT.

Parish will sue them, we'll win that European competition instead.
 
Spindle said:
This is what those UEFA assholes will do. They chucked us out before, and I think they're going to do it again because they are CORRUPT and BENT.

Parish will sue them, we'll win that European competition instead.
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What I don't understand , is that if I am correct the Europa League was the new version of the old cup winners cup. Therefore as Palace are the only team out of Lyon, Brondby and Palace to win a cup,surely we should be the one team that stays in the competition.
 
est1905 said:
Thats laughable. You mean when they reported last week that Israel had bombed a Palestinian hospital killing over 30 children (because HAMAS told them) only to have to remove the article and apologise because American news agencies proved it was a pack of lies? That BBC? They do decent research?
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This doesn’t belong here but do you get your information from the White House Spokesperson? Here is BBC Verify shredding their claims:-

www.bbc.co.uk

Ros Atkins on... The White House claims on BBC Gaza coverage

Ros Atkins from BBC Verify takes a look at the facts surrounding remarks that came our of Washington.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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