Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

[Forest Hillbilly]

Pam Groves was the most brilliant backroom staff member, and if she'd seen the email, this wouldn't have happened.
I think she went when Palace were put in Administration, but I hope not.

UEFA sending an email , to essentially the club shop and ticket office , is just extreme incompetence.

 

[pssguy]

How can it be a mistake involving Parish?

Textor was a shareholder and Director. He wasn’t controlled by Parish so couldn’t be forced to do anything. The buck doesn’t just stop with Textor. It was his alone.

Textor had been trying to sell his shares for 2 years because Parish wouldn’t accept a multi club arrangement. The very thing we are now accused of. So I don’t suppose it occurred to him, or anyone else, that there was a need to do anything to deal with a situation that didn’t exist.

It would help if there was any evidence that Parish requested Textor to put his shares in a blind trust given the situation. That does not appear to be the case. Parish, who gets paid millions a year, appears to have not taken all eventualities into account. Still hoping CAS will agree that the punishment does not fit the crime

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Good job we didn’t qualify for the club World Cup with Botafogo in it, they would’ve demoted us down to the next best thing, The over 60’s Streatham and District walking football Trophy

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Good job we didn’t qualify for the club World Cup with Botafogo in it, they would’ve demoted us down to the next best thing, The over 60’s Streatham and District walking football Trophy

Where we'd lose to a team of Brazilian waiters from Stockwell.

 

[becky]

What about IF (there you go whataboutery & speculation all in one post....... but bear with...)

Textor, as is likely for a Director, has access to all emails to the club and being in the States a lot works on a different timescale to the UK.

He sees the warning one from UEFA and thinks "sod that! I want to sell my shareholding, so I'm not tying them up in a blind trust"

He then deletes the email before anyone else sees it and can act on it.

When we win the FA Cup, realization dawns that he really has dropped us in the doo-doo, hence the comment about 'knowing we were in trouble'

Sometimes 2+2 really can = 5


DISCLAIMER
This is pure speculation and for entertainment purposes only and in no way is intended to cast any aspertions on Mr. Textor

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Where we'd lose to a team of Brazilian waiters from Stockwell.

Or the Sydenham Striders 🤣

 

[Palace in the Blood]

Apologies if someone else has posted UEFA seem to have immediately changed rules UEFA make rule change after kicking Crystal Palace out of Europa League

 

[PatrickA]

The club didn't (and doesn't) believe it is part of a multi ownership group.
Unlike other clubs it has never been part of any such set up or been seen in such light.

The club has got caught up in something that was never intended to apply to how the club is run.

Let's face it , if both Lyon and Palace were in the same competition is there any prospect of a genuine conflict arising?
There is no relationship between the clubs.

It's absurd to be thrown out on a dubious technicality, when to allow us in would not give rise to the sort of conflict that the rules purport to avoid.

Talk about UEFA missing the bigger picture of rule breaking around the game.

 

[Palacesince64]

I’m a bit pissed of that the FA didn’t make a statement or fight our corner as this could devalue (not in our eyes) the FA cup.

The blazers rarely wake up before “G&T time”. I doubt they’ve even noticed!

 

[BromleyMonkey]

It does make you think what they think Texter’s going to do even if he did have control at both clubs. Just say we did play Lyon, do they think he’s going to go into one of the dressing rooms and say something along the lines of ‘I need the other team to win so can someone pop a couple of own goals in for me and I’ll make it worth your while’

 

[Spindle]

It would help if there was any evidence that Parish requested Textor to put his shares in a blind trust given the situation. That does not appear to be the case. Parish, who gets paid millions a year, appears to have not taken all eventualities into account. Still hoping CAS will agree that the punishment does not fit the crime

You've not been paying atttention have you?

 

[Spindle]

Apologies if someone else has posted UEFA seem to have immediately changed rules UEFA make rule change after kicking Crystal Palace out of Europa League

Doesn't get more cynical than that.

It's a digusting stink, I can't think of a greater injustice in European football in history, honestly I can't

 

[MrRobbo]

What about IF (there you go whataboutery & speculation all in one post....... but bear with...)

Textor, as is likely for a Director, has access to all emails to the club and being in the States a lot works on a different timescale to the UK.

He sees the warning one from UEFA and thinks "sod that! I want to sell my shareholding, so I'm not tying them up in a blind trust"

He then deletes the email before anyone else sees it and can act on it.

When we win the FA Cup, realization dawns that he really has dropped us in the doo-doo, hence the comment about 'knowing we were in trouble'

Sometimes 2+2 really can = 5


DISCLAIMER
This is pure speculation and for entertainment purposes only and in no way is intended to cast any aspertions on Mr. Textor

i love the thought that Textor, Parish and co have access to the info@ inbox.

 

[cardiff eagle]

I can’t see CAS entirely overturning the decision but the Drogheda getting one vote does give some hope. Instead I wonder if proportionality might be the argument we run and succeed at. Steve Parish alluded to it strongly last night so could they uphold the ruling and instead change the sanction to a fine which is more in line with others dished out.

 

[Houston Eagle]

It would appear the rules, dates and goalposts have been moving and are still moving constantly over the past 12 months to protect “THE MONEY’.

So whilst my opinions are similar to the majority on here I awoke to a few new nuances. So a few points I do not understand.

1. Did we receive this e-mail every year since Textor joined the board as theoretically we could have been subject to MCO breaches?

2. Why send email this year when on the surface we were no closer to European football than any other season.

3. Why send it to a generic inbox if the intent required significant action and consequences.

4. Who else received these emails (Real Madrid? Charlton, Lyon etc).

Hoping our lawyers request this type of search information to be able to ascertain if this was targeted to protect selected member clubs and owners.

There are also a slew of non compliance, fines and extensions given by UEFA to well established EUropean clubs to ensure participation.

Finally in my mind everything points to Marinakis and possibly Textor. The timing of who said what to whom and why. Were deadlines meet by everyone?

Botofogo, Lyon and Forest appear to be the real MCO and funnily enough the are both the beneficiaries of UEFA.

 

[NEILLO]

It would appear the rules, dates and goalposts have been moving and are still moving constantly over the past 12 months to protect “THE MONEY’.

So whilst my opinions are similar to the majority on here I awoke to a few new nuances. So a few points I do not understand.

1. Did we receive this e-mail every year since Textor joined the board as theoretically we could have been subject to MCO breaches?

2. Why send email this year when on the surface we were no closer to European football than any other season.

3. Why send it to a generic inbox if the intent required significant action and consequences.

4. Who else received these emails (Real Madrid? Charlton, Lyon etc).

Hoping our lawyers request this type of search information to be able to ascertain if this was targeted to protect selected member clubs and owners.

There are also a slew of non compliance, fines and extensions given by UEFA to well established EUropean clubs to ensure participation.

Finally in my mind everything points to Marinakis and possibly Textor. The timing of who said what to whom and why. Were deadlines meet by everyone?

Botofogo, Lyon and Forest appear to be the real MCO and funnily enough the are both the beneficiaries of UEFA.

I assume the email sent in January/ February was a notification that the deadline had been moved forward to 1/3 for any share activity , so a rule change notification. Badly delivered it would seem !

 

[Jason Smith]

What about IF (there you go whataboutery & speculation all in one post....... but bear with...)

Textor, as is likely for a Director, has access to all emails to the club and being in the States a lot works on a different timescale to the UK.

He sees the warning one from UEFA and thinks "sod that! I want to sell my shareholding, so I'm not tying them up in a blind trust"

He then deletes the email before anyone else sees it and can act on it.

When we win the FA Cup, realization dawns that he really has dropped us in the doo-doo, hence the comment about 'knowing we were in trouble'

Sometimes 2+2 really can = 5


DISCLAIMER
This is pure speculation and for entertainment purposes only and in no way is intended to cast any aspertions on Mr. Textor

I always thought it equals five in Euroland! Two for you; two for me and one for the pot!

I tried reporting this post, but my screen just went very dark!

 

[Jason Smith]

It would appear the rules, dates and goalposts have been moving and are still moving constantly over the past 12 months to protect “THE MONEY’.

So whilst my opinions are similar to the majority on here I awoke to a few new nuances. So a few points I do not understand.

1. Did we receive this e-mail every year since Textor joined the board as theoretically we could have been subject to MCO breaches?

2. Why send email this year when on the surface we were no closer to European football than any other season.

3. Why send it to a generic inbox if the intent required significant action and consequences.

4. Who else received these emails (Real Madrid? Charlton, Lyon etc).

Hoping our lawyers request this type of search information to be able to ascertain if this was targeted to protect selected member clubs and owners.

There are also a slew of non compliance, fines and extensions given by UEFA to well established EUropean clubs to ensure participation.

Finally in my mind everything points to Marinakis and possibly Textor. The timing of who said what to whom and why. Were deadlines meet by everyone?

Botofogo, Lyon and Forest appear to be the real MCO and funnily enough the are both the beneficiaries of UEFA.

Apparently, everyone else found out whilst being gently thrashed with birchwood twigs in some Icelandic lagoon.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Before or after telling everyone Glasner should be sacked immediately?

Well done, you have just made yourself look...........

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I can just imagine putting shares in and out of a blind trust and not being up for sale apart from certain times of year after you’ve been knocked out and not pre season if you’ve qualified for Europe the next season.

You could have a sale window of about 4 months. I suppose critics and experts see no issue with this and telling prospective buyers to accept it as well and pay up when convenient lol.

That is not your normal style of comment