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Moyes to replace Glasner?

I'm a serial worrier but yet I still have the line 'too good to go down' in the back of my mind for us. Madness perhaps, but it is my sentiment.

We either stick with a proven winner of a coach, let him iron things out and God forbid progress as a club, or we revert back to type as forever fighting relegation with pragmatic and perhaps 'boring' football/managers.

A purple patch doesn't make a manager but neither should a disappointing start to the season. There has to be some differentiation between things not going so well and being so irreversibly terrible a change is drastically needed. We are experiencing the former, no matter how upsetting, worrying or temporarily painful it may be.
I like to believe that too, but those teams that were traditionally our level or worse have got their act together now e.g. Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Forest, Fulham and arguably now Leicester and Everton. Really hope Glasner is prepared to mix things up, instill confidence in the players, change tactics and basically do something different - otherwise we're in big trouble.
 
I'm a serial worrier but yet I still have the line 'too good to go down' in the back of my mind for us. Madness perhaps, but it is my sentiment.

In order to be too good to go down, you have to be good in the first place.

Last season's late run was a mirage conjured by a combination of Olise's genius, playing a series of poor or already on the beach teams, and a healthy dose of luck (eg the Liverpool game).

The reality is we are not that good at all and have worsened since that fortunate run. There's no doubt in my mind we'll be relegated, having rode our luck for too long, and as the poster above notes, not improved in the way that our peers have.

Look on the bright side, we managed 12 years in the top flight plus a cup final, nobody would've seen that back in 2013.
 
I like to believe that too, but those teams that were traditionally our level or worse have got their act together now e.g. Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Forest, Fulham and arguably now Leicester and Everton. Really hope Glasner is prepared to mix things up, instill confidence in the players, change tactics and basically do something different - otherwise we're in big trouble.
Spot on.We are in big trouble this season,the table never lies and perhaps this is the season our luck has finally run out.
 
Replace Glasner? Not yet lads. Too many other issues causing our poor performances like injuries, International games and new players adapting to the Prem. Doesn't feel like a FDB situation to me. He was patently clueless.

Anyway, definitely not Moyes. We need a younger, energetic, new wave tactition.
 
If you're in the bottom three with no wins and a quarter of the season gone, it's unlikely that you would consider anyone outside of an experienced manager to get you out of trouble.

On that basis it's probable that Moyes would come under consideration if Glasner goes.
 
If Glasner can't turn it around he'd be a good shout I think. Did brilliantly with Everton and West Ham.

However, I'm still rooting for Glasner to turn it around.
I was until last night. The players seem all over the place, the subs were bizarre, brought Schlupp on, who has played LB only to play him on the right, Sarr who is a quick forward to RWB and our natural RWB to LWB. I also hold SP and DF partly responsible for, yet again, farting about until last minute in transfer window, not covering the positions that needed it. We are without doubt free falling to relegation. I know it’s early but we don’t seem to have any fight.
Perhaps alienating the fanbase is going to bite SP on the bum!
 
Prior to my post, I quaffed down medication for gout.

Whilst we are in a bit of a pickle in terms of performances,results and position in the table, I have attempted to introduce some context in that the protracted season is in its infancy.

In other words ‘it’s early days’ 😀 you’re such a wordsmith Willo 😎👍
 
Now they’re talking about it on the radio and sky it is a bit of a worry, much as I think moyes is okay and sadly he would be a good fit for us, surely this can’t happen, I’d sooner stick with glasner in a relegation battle. We’re at least trying to go forward and we’re creating chances, I don’t want to go back to those Roy days of nil shots on target and grinding out results. If we’re going to go down or have a relegation battle, let’s at least go down attacking
 
In order to be too good to go down, you have to be good in the first place.

Last season's late run was a mirage conjured by a combination of Olise's genius, playing a series of poor or already on the beach teams, and a healthy dose of luck (eg the Liverpool game).

The reality is we are not that good at all and have worsened since that fortunate run. There's no doubt in my mind we'll be relegated, having rode our luck for too long, and as the poster above notes, not improved in the way that our peers have.

Look on the bright side, we managed 12 years in the top flight plus a cup final, nobody would've seen that back in 2013.

Bloody hell, you sound so certain go and put a bet on it as we are 4/1 you will be rolling in it.

Talk about catastrophising it's October not April with 4 games to go. **** me. 2 wins and we could be up to 14th. We've been in way worse situations, did you see what we were like under Ollie? Did you support Palace then mate?

We have some good players not showing it at the moment. We just need to get the balance right and get our attacking patterns in place. If not, throw the till at Moyes in November, which is still plenty of time.

It was not a bloody mirage. Olise didn't mind control Mateta to start scoring every week.

Annoys me that some fans have just thrown in the towel in October ffs
 
Bloody hell, you sound so certain go and put a bet on it as we are 4/1 you will be rolling in it.

Talk about catastrophising it's October not April with 4 games to go. **** me. 2 wins and we could be up to 14th. We've been in way worse situations, did you see what we were like under Ollie? Did you support Palace then mate?

We have some good players not showing it at the moment. We just need to get the balance right and get our attacking patterns in place. If not, throw the till at Moyes in November, which is still plenty of time.

It was not a bloody mirage. Olise didn't mind control Mateta to start scoring every week.

Annoys me that some fans have just thrown in the towel in October ffs

I am a known 'Doomsayer' on HOL who has regularly predicted our demise pre-season after pre-season incurring the wrath and ridicule of several fellow supporters.

Even this 'Elijah of doom' was optimistic about our prospects this season but of course whilst optimism has dispersed a tad, I recognise that we have only played 8 games in the PL and I have not yet 'Thrown in the towel' in the context of relegation.The season is in its embryonic stage.
 
Now they’re talking about it on the radio and sky it is a bit of a worry, much as I think moyes is okay and sadly he would be a good fit for us, surely this can’t happen, I’d sooner stick with glasner in a relegation battle. We’re at least trying to go forward and we’re creating chances, I don’t want to go back to those Roy days of nil shots on target and grinding out results. If we’re going to go down or have a relegation battle, let’s at least go down attacking
I hear you and nobody wants to go back to grinding but that might be what is needed for a bit. I’d love us to be a forward minded team who creates chances but this season we aren’t. The facts don’t lie. We have 5 goals from 8 games, the worst in the division. It’s not like we are losing 4-3, we are getting beaten 1-0. Last night against an average Forest team we didn’t create a single clear cut chance.
 
Replace Glasner? Not yet lads. Too many other issues causing our poor performances like injuries, International games and new players adapting to the Prem. Doesn't feel like a FDB situation to me. He was patently clueless.

Anyway, definitely not Moyes. We need a younger, energetic, new wave tactition.
My feeling entirely
 
Bloody hell, you sound so certain go and put a bet on it as we are 4/1 you will be rolling in it.

Talk about catastrophising it's October not April with 4 games to go. **** me. 2 wins and we could be up to 14th. We've been in way worse situations, did you see what we were like under Ollie? Did you support Palace then mate?

We have some good players not showing it at the moment. We just need to get the balance right and get our attacking patterns in place. If not, throw the till at Moyes in November, which is still plenty of time.

It was not a bloody mirage. Olise didn't mind control Mateta to start scoring every week.

Annoys me that some fans have just thrown in the towel in October ffs

I've supported Palace since the early 1990s so I've seen a lifetime's worth of dross in my time. Mentioning Ollie is apposite, as, much like Glasner, he didn't seem to have a clue how to get a performance or even a reaction out of his team.

I also don't think I'm catastrophising - going down wouldn't be the worst thing to happen, and as I mentioned before, we've had an unexpectedly long run in the top flight with plenty of great moments.

It's like this: most seasons there's a team which is relegated (or comes close to it) that nobody on the outside expected, but for those in the know, the signs were there. This year, it's us. It's a combination of a false dawn under a new manager; the loss of an exceptionally gifted player and a few more reliable hands, with poor quality replacements; and the rare season in which the teams that usually struggle seem to be performing well.

I may well be completely wrong, but the next few fixtures look daunting, and it's not hard to see us come early December still without a win and, inevitably, without a manager – and in classic Parish fashion, he'll pull the trigger without having a replacement in mind.
 
Now they’re talking about it on the radio and sky it is a bit of a worry, much as I think moyes is okay and sadly he would be a good fit for us, surely this can’t happen, I’d sooner stick with glasner in a relegation battle. We’re at least trying to go forward and we’re creating chances, I don’t want to go back to those Roy days of nil shots on target and grinding out results. If we’re going to go down or have a relegation battle, let’s at least go down attacking

I would hasten a guess that the Moyes teams that finished in European spots or even won the Conference League didn't do so by having nil shots on target!

At some point they would've had to score a few goals and I've been there when 2 of his teams have beaten Palace 4-0!
 
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