Marc Guéhi

Surrey Hills said:
More power to OG , Parish should keep his head when infront of the cameras , a truly mistimed comment on MG from
Him, keep your own council SP and stop acting like pundit who knows nothing
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Better still, keep away from the cameras entirely. After all Tom Werner who is the chairman of Liverpool manages to do his job without constantly appearing in from of the cameras
 
Surrey Hills said:
More power to OG , Parish should keep his head when infront of the cameras , a truly mistimed comment on MG from
Him, keep your own council SP and stop acting like pundit who knows nothing
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I think it was OG that should think what he is saying at press conferences, concentrate on the game ahead, not issue transfer demands, it doesn't help anyone in that situation, nobody, for some reason offered the money that the club wanted, for Guehi, if we had bought a replacement first, the offers on Guehi would be a lot less than 35m, because they knew we had to sell.
 
Nutmegyeti said:
I’ve got sympathy for everyone in this circus, to be honest. Guéhi probably thought he had the Liverpool move lined up, but at the end of the day he’s still an incredibly well-paid footballer – even if he’s not exactly troubling the top earners. He’s within his rights to see his deal out and line up a big payday next summer. Some fans get frustrated with that, but you can’t pin it all on Parish either.

Glasner’s a funny one. History tells you that he’ll probably fall out with the owners eventually, and certainly he’s had discordant players in the past. That said, he’s been a fantastic manager for us and brought us the FA Cup, and he’s certainly got his way of playing – and it works the majority of the time. At the end of the day though, he probably is a transient manager, and this is another stepping stone onto one of the major jobs he’s no doubt got his eye on.

As for Parish, he cops all sorts of flak on here but people skip over the real point. The whole crux of the argument was that Texter never had control – it was only ever 25% on major matters, the same as every other shareholder. So Parish is effectively operating as a CEO. He’ll have a transfer pot he can work within, but beyond that – if it means applying extra funds or going bigger than the agreed budget – it needs all the shareholders to sign off. And billionaires don’t tend to do that lightly. There is also PSR to consider as well.

At the end of the day, Parish was put into a tricky position. You sell a player and you lose your key defender – and probably your manager as well. You keep him, and suddenly there’s a £35 million dent in the budget. Either way, it’s a hit. And truthfully, if a club really wanted Guéhi, they could have come in a lot earlier in the summer. They didn’t.

Could we do business earlier? Sure. But if you’ve got to sell to buy, sometimes you wait. That’s football. People forget Chelsea were a yo-yo club under Ken Bates before the money came in. We’re punching above our weight, and this is probably our “moment in the sun” as much as anything.

Guéhi will do what’s best for Guéhi, Glasner will do what’s best for Glasner, and Parish will do what’s best for the club. It doesn’t always line up with what we as fans want, but that’s the reality.

And really, it’s all part of the theatre. Glasner can’t lose here. If we have a poor season, he can point at the lack of recruitment, lack of reinforcements, lack of support. If we have a good season, his stock goes through the roof anyway. So by allegedly chucking his rattle out the pram, he’s basically secured himself a win-win. Either way, he walks away looking the clever one.
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That's a very well balanced post.

Now that at least some of the dust has settled, I find myself coming back to something that continues to bother me.

And that piece is the potential loan of Igor and the subsequent collapse of that deal / agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed.

From the outside looking in, I can't see how Igor could be considered an adequate replacement for Guehi. Now it could well be that he was a Glasner approved potential signing. In which case I would trust his judgement over mine. Igor claiming that he walked away over lack of assurances over playing time is also a strange one - if true of course.

Then we come to the apparent agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed even after the Igor deal had fallen through. If indeed that was the true sequence of events. That would leave us with a huge playing exposure. Unless there was another, thus far unreported deal in the background that ran out of time.

So my conclusion is that Parish's priority was getting a fee for Guehi. And that only changed when it became clear that Palace were not going to be able to complete another signing. But should it have got that far is my question....
 
NEILLO said:
That's a very well balanced post.

Now that at least some of the dust has settled, I find myself coming back to something that continues to bother me.

And that piece is the potential loan of Igor and the subsequent collapse of that deal / agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed.

From the outside looking in, I can't see how Igor could be considered an adequate replacement for Guehi. Now it could well be that he was a Glasner approved potential signing. In which case I would trust his judgement over mine. Igor claiming that he walked away over lack of assurances over playing time is also a strange one - if true of course.

Then we come to the apparent agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed even after the Igor deal had fallen through. If indeed that was the true sequence of events. That would leave us with a huge playing exposure. Unless there was another, thus far unreported deal in the background that ran out of time.

So my conclusion is that Parish's priority was getting a fee for Guehi. And that only changed when it became clear that Palace were not going to be able to complete another signing. But should it have got that far is my question....
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Correct Sir.
From a financial standpoint, Steve Parish did not want a situation whereby Guehi departed on a 'Free'.
Apropos the timeline, sometimes events are outside one's control and the whole transfer business can be a minefield.
 
NEILLO said:
That's a very well balanced post.

Now that at least some of the dust has settled, I find myself coming back to something that continues to bother me.

And that piece is the potential loan of Igor and the subsequent collapse of that deal / agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed.

From the outside looking in, I can't see how Igor could be considered an adequate replacement for Guehi. Now it could well be that he was a Glasner approved potential signing. In which case I would trust his judgement over mine. Igor claiming that he walked away over lack of assurances over playing time is also a strange one - if true of course.

Then we come to the apparent agreement for the Guehi deal to proceed even after the Igor deal had fallen through. If indeed that was the true sequence of events. That would leave us with a huge playing exposure. Unless there was another, thus far unreported deal in the background that ran out of time.

So my conclusion is that Parish's priority was getting a fee for Guehi. And that only changed when it became clear that Palace were not going to be able to complete another signing. But should it have got that far is my question....
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A good post, the thing i cant understand is that Guehi was available for 45m all summer and nobody, to my knowledge, wanted to pay that much, surely it wasnt only Liverpoll he would go too, nobody else. 😳
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
A good post, the thing i cant understand is that Guehi was available for 45m all summer and nobody, to my knowledge, wanted to pay that much, surely it wasnt only Liverpoll he would go too, nobody else. 😳
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Yes, that is odd.

i work with someone who is a Liverpool fan and football coach, specialising in defence. He reckons MG could be the best CB in the world at the moment, or else one of them. Asked if he had to choose between signing Isak and MG he said MG every time.

He also agrees Liverpool are largely to blame for the fiasco, a view widely held on Merseyside. They got Isak because Toon had a replacement as they have the assets to do that. We did not as we do not.

And Liverpool were the ones who made the offer so late in the day. A willing buyer and a willing seller and they could not wrap up the deal mid-window giving us a chance to fish for a replacement? A tactic borne from arrogance and misjudgment.

Hammer our management if it gives you comfort and I don't doubt different things could have been done.
 
Palace were never fully in control of Guehi,s possible transfer. Until maybe the very last minute. Liverpool, made sure of that, remembering they wanted the player, they then refused an absolute bargain deal throughout the widow. That meant Palace were never in a position to replace until the last day, and that’s when OG made his stance clear. If ever there was a balancing act this was it for Parish with four plate,s in play.
The outcome is far from the end of the world, Guehi, is not just a nice fella, he is a top professional that needs to maintain his playing reputation, and he can only do that by doing what he has done up to now, putting in good consistent performances, knowing the end of this season will bring a mega offer from a mega outfit. Hope it ain’t Liverpool.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
It never ends...

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Liverpool ready to tie up Marc Guehi transfer as Crystal Palace dramatically SLASH asking price

Crystal Palace are reported to have slashed their asking price for Marc Guehi to leave in January - with Gary Lineker urging the player to push for an exit.
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I doubt this will happen, as Marc will be cup-tied for the Champions League (assuming he plays in the Conference League proper).

This may of course depend on how leaky the Scousers' defence continues to be between now and January!
 
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