Marc Guéhi

As has been said, Guehi can sign a pre-contract with an overseas club come January. How will Liverpool handle that come the January window? Do a Real Madrid and offer us say £15m or so to ensure they get him in January or trust that Guehi won't be tempted by approaches from one of the big European trams and wait till the Summer.

Interesting dynamic there unless Liverpool really is the only club Guehi wants to move to.
That seemed to be his preference when Newcastle wanted him but if, maybe a big if, Real Madrid came into the picture it would be quite a decision for him.
 
You say that but do we really have a financial black hole? Last season we took in money from Olise, Anderson and Johnstone. Didn't spend in excess of that. This season Eze plus money from new TV deal and league position. Spend on Pino, Canvot and hopefully Uche probably not much more than £65m.

Should £35m represent that much of a challenge?
The club runs at a loss. We have to have some net transfer profit windows to ensure we keep within PSR and more importantly this year the somewhat stricter UEFA FFP. Also I suspect we've had to repay some Textor loans as part of his departure which probably leaves the coffers a little short of teh readies.
 
He undoubtedly is. But let's not forget, he's still putting us in an awkward position by not signing an extension on his contract. Olise did...he got his move...we got a decent fee. There's an outcome available that makes it a win-win-win for everyone involved...Marc just isn't prepared to help us out with it. So let's not be too effusive with our praise for him. Ultimately, he still wants to leave our beloved Palace without much consideration for our future.
A tad harsh. His head will be in a million places at the moment and let us not forget the machinations arguably played out by his agent. So why did he play yesterday given all of the transfer activity at such an obviously advanced stage?

Gut feeling to what has undoubtedly been a chaotic transfer window for a myriad of reasons that reflects a mid-table club on limited resources yet following a spectacular year with Cup successes and first foray into European competition, is to get behind those 'significants' at the club e.g. Guehi and Glasner. They are at the heart of the Palace family/ community. Next Premiership fixture will hopefully result in raucous fans' chanting for both.
 
Both parties knew what they were signing when his contract was agreed.
Marc told Palace ages ago that he wouldn’t sign a new one.
It was Parish that said he had to be sold in this window
The player is responsible for HIS future, Parish is responsible for Palace’s
Agree with what you say, Guehi, is well within his rights and hasn’t really put a foot wrong. Parish, couldn’t be blamed for wanting to cash in. If only this had all been handled properly, which it certainly wasn’t ,everyone would have been not only well within their rights but happy with it.
 
You say that but do we really have a financial black hole? Last season we took in money from Olise, Anderson and Johnstone. Didn't spend in excess of that. This season Eze plus money from new TV deal and league position. Spend on Pino, Canvot and hopefully Uche probably not much more than £65m.

Should £35m represent that much of a challenge?

When companies write financial plans they have projected income and projected expenditure. All the TV money and league position and everything else is part of that financial plan.

The projected expenditure is still there (we need to replace Guehi) but the projected income is gone.

That gap is now a black hole that didn't exist yesterday, and it needs filling.

That £35m won't won't send us bust, but it leads to one of two outcomes. Either we spend less money in future, or we increase income. Tough to do the latter, leaves us to do the former.

For the record, £35m is about 1/6 of our annual revenue. It's a lot.
 
When companies write financial plans they have projected income and projected expenditure. All the TV money and league position and everything else is part of that financial plan.

The projected expenditure is still there (we need to replace Guehi) but the projected income is gone.

That gap is now a black hole that didn't exist yesterday, and it needs filling.

That £35m won't won't send us bust, but it leads to one of two outcomes. Either we spend less money in future, or we increase income. Tough to do the latter, leaves us to do the former.

For the record, £35m is about 1/6 of our annual revenue. It's a lot.
It’s a good point, although it’s £28 mil because of the Chelsea cut. But at some point in the future there will be unhappiness at something and unless new owners buy the club or something significant, this £28 mil we didn’t get for Guehi will be brought up. If Wharton is sold for £130 mil then we’ll be good for a while, and pulling the plug on Guehi to Liverpool and telling levy at Spurs to feck himself shows our strength in sales negotiations, I hope.
 
I really don’t get how some on here can’t see this for what it is - a complete shambles of a transfer window..!!

No strategy, no plan - spent the first 2 months arguing a case and taking on a corrupt establishment in a case we were never going to win..!!

Dancing round transfer budget dependent on whether we were in Europa or Conference - when in reality difference is negligible given todays transfer fees.

Normal SP procrastination ensued - business done too late - which I called 2 months ago..!!

Then todays nonsense..!!

Why are we talking about holes in transfer budgets based upon incoming transfer revenue - other teams seem to simply ignore it - why are we any / so different..??

Seems to me that many in here blinded by SP nostalgia and rhetoric - when in reality if it weren’t for OG’s intervention today on the Guehi deal - any progression we have made would have been flushed down the pan..!!
I said I wasn’t going to give my view on this window until it was over. So I’ll leave that for tomorrow when the picture is clearer.

To take your other points ;

“ No strategy, no plan “ I’m interested to know what yours would have been . Me, I would have wanted to add some players to the squad. We added four. I believe Glasner said he wanted four or five so that was delivered.

The UEFA saga - presumably then you would have just thrown the towel in as soon as it became an issue. Maybe you thought that we were part of a MCO ?? I don’t think Parish could win in that situation - he would either be adjudged as not having the character to challenge them or , as you have, said it was a waste of time.

“ Dancing around the transfer budget “ - if you haven’t realised by now that Palace is a tightly run ship then maybe that’s where that hole in your head is. I don’t claim to be an expert in the clubs finances but I do know that despite consistently losing money the club is considered to be financially stable.

I’ve already provided my view on why we could be dependent on incoming transfer revenue and I think you just choose to ignore it so I won’t bore you with a repeat.

I see little evidence on here that people are “ blinded “ when it comes to Parish. I think he’s made a pigs ear of the Guehi situation but guess what - he ain’t perfect. There are a lot of moving parts to transfers and it’s not difficult to end up in a less than optimal situation. But yes, I think he could have done better during this process.

Anyway, congratulations are due to you for predicting Parish’s procrastination. Maybe now you could stop reminding us on such a regular basis.
 
The only fair way to do this going forward. Offer Marc a one year extension with an extra 100k a month for this year only, add a release clause of about 25 mil effective on first of March(ish).
 
Looks like Parish has played a blinder, Guehi is staying for another year. A lot can happen in a year.

Don't worry yourself about money, its not yours and to our investors, its not a lot.

You need to lay off sniffing the SP fums

How is keeping him and losing 35-40m a blinder.

My money goes into this club & yes it is a lot of money. (That sum of money is worth more then SP shares)
 
When companies write financial plans they have projected income and projected expenditure. All the TV money and league position and everything else is part of that financial plan.

The projected expenditure is still there (we need to replace Guehi) but the projected income is gone.

That gap is now a black hole that didn't exist yesterday, and it needs filling.

That £35m won't won't send us bust, but it leads to one of two outcomes. Either we spend less money in future, or we increase income. Tough to do the latter, leaves us to do the former.

For the record, £35m is about 1/6 of our annual revenue. It's a lot.

This is not a zero-sum game, offer Marc a slice. He can make 5 mil and CPFC can still recoup 10-15 mil.
 
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This is the other way to look at it...I mean....they're not wrong.
I think I’d rather take the view that the Scousers were about to lowball us for the best ever Centre back deal when they could have offered us more a month or so ago and the deal would already be completed. They messed with this deal as much as we did.
 
The only fair way to do this going forward. Offer Marc a one year extension with an extra 100k a month for this year only, add a release clause of about 25 mil effective on first of March(ish).

Marc is not interested he was offered contracts multi times.


I think I’d rather take the view that the Scousers were about to lowball us for the best ever Centre back deal when they could have offered us more a month or so ago and the deal would already be completed. They messed with this deal as much as we did.

They didn't low ball us it was a fair price.

Many of us before hand had even said it would be around that sum.

No one else was interested this was the problem and I do wonder if Marcs people had been in talks with only Liverpool the whole time.

It's odd that out of all the other teams which needed a player in this position none would pay this price. (Unless they believe they can get him on a free and putt hat money towards guaranteeing he signs)

I never pay attention to Scousers they always play victims and make excuses.

The deal was not done because we had no signed a replacement and we must of thought we had a few today only to miss out on them which is why the agreed deal was pulled (Nothing to do with OG as some are making out)
 
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The only fair way to do this going forward. Offer Marc a one year extension with an extra 100k a month for this year only, add a release clause of about 25 mil effective on first of March(ish).
This has been mooted numerous times in different forms on here. The only conclusion we can come to is that Guehi point blank refuses to sign any new contract and will leave for very little in January or nothing at season end.

I personally think Guehi has missed a trick and could have negotiated himself a nice little cash bonus and higher salary from a short term extension but as with most footballers he will have been advised by his agent who probably wants the deal that works best for him rather than his client.
 
The only fair way to do this going forward. Offer Marc a one year extension with an extra 100k a month for this year only, add a release clause of about 25 mil effective on first of March(ish).
Why ?

It was Marc that said he wouldn’t sign another contract.

At the moment he’s tied to the one he was happy to sign and he now has to honour it
 
This has been mooted numerous times in different forms on here. The only conclusion we can come to is that Guehi point blank refuses to sign any new contract and will leave for very little in January or nothing at season end.

I personally think Guehi has missed a trick and could have negotiated himself a nice little cash bonus and higher salary from a short term extension but as with most footballers he will have been advised by his agent who probably wants the deal that works best for him rather than his client.
Yet when someone offers you a cool 5 mil, fans happiness, stability, and a chance to decide your own future in a year, you'd say he would not even consider it?
 

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