Manchester synagogue attack

I don’t comment unless I read. Particularly if the source is the Mail, whose headlines and concentration on aspects that suit their politics is legendary.

This guy has distanced himself and his family from the events in Manchester. As a Syrian he apparently posted social media comments during the war in Syria. It seems he opposed Assad. So did Hamas. He also seems to think that the state of Israel won’t exist in 60 years and welcomes that. I don’t suppose he is alone in thinking like that in the Middle East.

Posting comments praising the fighters of Hamas could easily be because of their support in Syria, which seemingly is his primary interest. Not Gaza.

Does that mean he supports Hamas, and everything they do? You would need to ask him and not the Daily Mail. I certainly don’t know.
Unbelievable 🤣. As stated previously it was also reported in The Guardian and on BBC.
 
He thinks we haven't noticed
 
Unbelievable 🤣. As stated previously it was also reported in The Guardian and on BBC.
Of course they did, as did many other outlets. They though were more objective in their reporting. Both included his statement in full:-

“The Al-Shamie family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent civilians.

We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened. Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.

We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.

May God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured."

The BBC went on to report the earlier posts which have been asserted to mean he supports Hamas in this way:-

“A post on Faraj Al-Shamie's Facebook page, which had been verified by the BBC but has since been removed, appeared to praise the 7 October attack by Hamas.

The post read: "The scenes broadcast by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades showing a group of fighters storming an occupation army camp with simple means, balloons and motorcycles, prove beyond any doubt that Israel is not here to stay.

"Men like these prove that they are Allah's men on earth, regardless of who leads them, they are the true compass for men confident in their victory, even if their resources are few."

Make of that what you will but it suggests to me he wasn’t fully aware of what actually happened (maybe why it was later removed) but confirm he doesn’t believe that Israel has a long term future. In that he isn’t alone.
 
I am beginning to believe this is correct
A quick look at his career was enough to convince me that the Greens have made a major mistake. This guy is all about "him", if the Tories had offered him a better job he would have jumped at it.

It's a pity because Labour are in a mess so a solid sensible Green Leader (is there such a thing?) could have picked up loads of votes.

The Greens are just moving further and further left and the environment is becoming less of their focus.
 
The Greens are just moving further and further left and the environment is becoming less of their focus.
"Look who's back" was a recent comedy movie about Hitler wandering around in modern times. At the end of the film he announces he will be joining 'The Greens'. And it all made perfect sense.

The Overt so-called Respectability of AntiSemitism is surely now something new ? its totally shameless and portrayed as a Virtue Signalling. Some scottish jewish young kid, living in a lighthouse on an island , is now brutalised for the crimes of Benjamin Netenyathu ten thousand miles away.
 
He's not the only one (Green leader I mean).

Greta decided to move from environmental campaigning to political and has lost a lot of support in the Green movement.

The problem is that by moving the focus of the Green party to very left wing policies it's a dead end. There are always people who think that the rich should be deprived of their wealth and nations and borders should be abolished.

However they are tiny but loud minority. He may get rent a mob at his rallies but he aint going to get any votes. He may well end up picking up some from the Socialist Workers Party.

The smart move would have been to try and occupy some of the ground that Labour traditionally has. Sensible Green policies and sensible economic policies.

Instead they are going for the nuclear option, dump our economy in the toilet for the sake of the environment whilst taxing the rich and doling out freebies to all.

It's 6th form politics.
 
Of course they did, as did many other outlets. They though were more objective in their reporting. Both included his statement in full:-

“The Al-Shamie family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent civilians.

We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened. Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.

We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.

May God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured."

The BBC went on to report the earlier posts which have been asserted to mean he supports Hamas in this way:-

“A post on Faraj Al-Shamie's Facebook page, which had been verified by the BBC but has since been removed, appeared to praise the 7 October attack by Hamas.

The post read: "The scenes broadcast by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades showing a group of fighters storming an occupation army camp with simple means, balloons and motorcycles, prove beyond any doubt that Israel is not here to stay.

"Men like these prove that they are Allah's men on earth, regardless of who leads them, they are the true compass for men confident in their victory, even if their resources are few."

Make of that what you will but it suggests to me he wasn’t fully aware of what actually happened (maybe why it was later removed) but confirm he doesn’t believe that Israel has a long term future. In that he isn’t alone.
Ah ok so because a post has been deleted, this means he doesn’t believe what he said? So they were fighter storming an army camp? Wasn’t it a group of terrorists randomly killing innocent people at a music festival? Or have everyone got it wrong? Funny how hindsight suddenly comes into play when your views become public knowledge isn’t it? So do you believe Israel with cease to exist?
 
Ah ok so because a post has been deleted, this means he doesn’t believe what he said? So they were fighter storming an army camp? Wasn’t it a group of terrorists randomly killing innocent people at a music festival? Or have everyone got it wrong? Funny how hindsight suddenly comes into play when your views become public knowledge isn’t it? So do you believe Israel with cease to exist?
Lucy Connelly deleted her post…didn’t do her any good.
 
Of course they did, as did many other outlets. They though were more objective in their reporting. Both included his statement in full:-

“The Al-Shamie family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent civilians.

We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened. Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.

We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.

May God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured."

The BBC went on to report the earlier posts which have been asserted to mean he supports Hamas in this way:-

“A post on Faraj Al-Shamie's Facebook page, which had been verified by the BBC but has since been removed, appeared to praise the 7 October attack by Hamas.

The post read: "The scenes broadcast by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades showing a group of fighters storming an occupation army camp with simple means, balloons and motorcycles, prove beyond any doubt that Israel is not here to stay.

"Men like these prove that they are Allah's men on earth, regardless of who leads them, they are the true compass for men confident in their victory, even if their resources are few."

Make of that what you will but it suggests to me he wasn’t fully aware of what actually happened (maybe why it was later removed) but confirm he doesn’t believe that Israel has a long term future. In that he isn’t alone.
Israel is not going anywhere. Time and time again its Arab neighbours have tried to make a dent in it but got nowhere. You seem to be calling for that again but it won't work.
 
And so it continues...

They didn't report much about protests and vandalism of synagogues and churches for the previous twenty years. But apparently this and Islamaphobia are hugely newsworthy. There have been several priests either attacked or killed, and churches burned, but you'd struggle to even hear about it. There was a priest attacked and someone linked murdered in NI a couple of weeks ago. No suspect's names have been published. A man. So let's see how long before they give names and addresses here. Another point I'd make is this is often internal Islamic trouble but I do suspect it isn't this time. There was a mosque attack here. Locals were blamed but when it turned out the other mosque attacked them, there was no apology. Anybody might think there were an agenda.
 
Ah ok so because a post has been deleted, this means he doesn’t believe what he said? So they were fighter storming an army camp? Wasn’t it a group of terrorists randomly killing innocent people at a music festival? Or have everyone got it wrong? Funny how hindsight suddenly comes into play when your views become public knowledge isn’t it? So do you believe Israel with cease to exist?
No. I said we don’t know. I don’t and I don’t think anyone does, except him. What he posted wasn’t support for Hamas. It was praising the character of men he admired for a something that appears unconnected to the Oct 7 attack, or was misreported in the media he used. Perhaps (only perhaps) the reason it got deleted was that he came to realise it was incorrect and ill judged so removed it. Perhaps he did support Hamas before they carried out Oct 7 but once he saw the consequences changed his mind. I don’t know. Rushing to judgement on one message could see any of us portrayed as something we aren’t.

Do I think Israel will exist in 60 years? Rather less than I think humanity will exist in 60 years!

Who knows what the geo-political environment will be by then. American domination will be taught as history. Their support and protection of Israel weakened significantly. Israel is surrounded by hostility so they will need to adapt and change to survive. Perhaps the flood in that we saw 75 years ago will become a flood out as pressure mounts.
 

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