Man City found guilty

chris123 said:
Didn't they whistleblow rather than deny
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Yes, they did. The new ownership brought the breaches to the attention of the league having find out about them after taking over. That was a big part of the lenient punishment they got.

I think if a new owner took over City tomorrow, the first thing they would do is put distance between themselves and the past owners, take a totally conciliatory approach, and beg for mercy.

None of that will happen, of course, because the City owners aren't going anywhere. They are balls deep now, and probably the only way out of the hole they are in is to keep digging. I expect an endless round of legal challenges and appeals and Christ knows what. They've got the money, and the necessary lack of shame.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
They still won 21 trophies in Abramovich's time and generated hundreds of millions. Not a bad deal in exchange for a fine amounting to about 2% of their income.
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This is part of what must be addressed with City. Even if they get a massive fine they will still view the whole thing as worthwhile. A business expense.

The only way a fine alone could work is if evidently comes from the clubs playing budget rather than it's wider, general budget and is so huge that it significantly undermines their ability to compete in the market for years.

Anything else they will just shrug off.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Yes, they did. The new ownership brought the breaches to the attention of the league having find out about them after taking over. That was a big part of the lenient punishment they got.

I think if a new owner took over City tomorrow, the first thing they would do is put distance between themselves and the past owners, take a totally conciliatory approach, and beg for mercy.

None of that will happen, of course, because the City owners aren't going anywhere. They are balls deep now, and probably the only way out of the hole they are in is to keep digging. I expect an endless round of legal challenges and appeals and Christ knows what. They've got the money, and the necessary lack of shame.
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From what I've read the verdict is air tight & Man City are allowed one appeal???
 
Yes City are certainly allowed an appeal and with their legal team this will be tied up
for several years I would think. If we get a final decision by 2030 it will be a surprise
 
Jimenez said:
From what I've read the verdict is air tight & Man City are allowed one appeal???
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Its not clear to me. I've read one thing that says City have one right to appeal and it's all very tightly time bound, but another that says the appeal would take at least a year. Plus on top of that City could presumably go to CAS at the end of it. One of the things that is emerging is how astonishingly obstructive and shameless City are with these things. One of the hacked emails that started the whole thing was from City's in-house lawyer saying that the owner would 'rather spend £30 million on the 50 best lawyers in the world to sue UEFA for 10 years than accept a financial penalty or settlement' after City broke FFP rules.

It all seems a good example of how the very rich can abuse due process just through wealth alone. They tried to drag it all out for year after year to get past some sort of cut off point, they are happy to carry on that way. Shameless.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Its not clear to me. I've read one thing that says City have one right to appeal and it's all very tightly time bound, but another that says the appeal would take at least a year. Plus on top of that City could presumably go to CAS at the end of it. One of the things that is emerging is how astonishingly obstructive and shameless City are with these things. One of the hacked emails that started the whole thing was from City's in-house lawyer saying that the owner would 'rather spend £30 million on the 50 best lawyers in the world to sue UEFA for 10 years than accept a financial penalty or settlement' after City broke FFP rules.

It all seems a good example of how the very rich can abuse due process just through wealth alone. They tried to drag it all out for year after year to get past some sort of cut off point, they are happy to carry on that way. Shameless.
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Man City have bought 50 players for more than £30 m. The amount is no big deal to them.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
They still won 21 trophies in Abramovich's time and generated hundreds of millions. Not a bad deal in exchange for a fine amounting to about 2% of their income.
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Plus by coughing up past misdeeds it allowed them to commit their own with impunity.
Sale of hotels to a group company £1bn
Sale of Women’s team £200m
Players on 7+ years contracts.
Buying and selling players to avoid instalment payment falling in current years numbers.
Multi Ownership club deals (including snaffling a previous manager for free).
The list goes on, but nothing to see here !
I fecking hate Chelsea….🤬
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Its not clear to me. I've read one thing that says City have one right to appeal and it's all very tightly time bound, but another that says the appeal would take at least a year. Plus on top of that City could presumably go to CAS at the end of it. One of the things that is emerging is how astonishingly obstructive and shameless City are with these things. One of the hacked emails that started the whole thing was from City's in-house lawyer saying that the owner would 'rather spend £30 million on the 50 best lawyers in the world to sue UEFA for 10 years than accept a financial penalty or settlement' after City broke FFP rules.

It all seems a good example of how the very rich can abuse due process just through wealth alone. They tried to drag it all out for year after year to get past some sort of cut off point, they are happy to carry on that way. Shameless.
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They can't go to cas, i did hear why but can't remember.Maybe cos not a euro matter
 
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