Labour Party politics

beak said:
Well, Mrs Thatchers funeral took place during austerity and they magically found £10 million behind the sofa,I don't care too much how they fund it perhaps twopence on champagne.
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Too right. No need to worry about costs. Nothing else has been about costs except for paltry cuts whilst spunking miles more money on other s*** that no one wants or needs.
 
beak said:
Well, Mrs Thatchers funeral took place during austerity and they magically found £10 million behind the sofa,I don't care too much how they fund it perhaps twopence on champagne.
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If removing the cap will only cost the taxpayer £10m I am fine with that but we both know that is not the case.

You are are very generous with other people's money but that is not really the point. We have record levels of debt and if we are not careful Rachel will have to go to the IMF. If that happens they will be the ones running the economy and trust me they will not be shy about making cuts.
 
Badger11 said:
If removing the cap will only cost the taxpayer £10m I am fine with that but we both know that is not the case.

You are are very generous with other people's money but that is not really the point. We have record levels of debt and if we are not careful Rachel will have to go to the IMF. If that happens they will be the ones running the economy and trust me they will not be shy about making cuts.
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Trust me I have put a lot in the kitty.
 
beak said:
Well, Mrs Thatchers funeral took place during austerity and they magically found £10 million behind the sofa,I don't care too much how they fund it perhaps twopence on champagne.
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Most sources put the cost at 3.6 million, but that is also an exaggeration as it includes the wages of the police and other services. These people would have been paid their wages whether or not they were involved in the funeral. The true figure would be well under a million - whatever it was, she deserved it.
 
georgenorman said:
Most sources put the cost at 3.6 million, but that is also an exaggeration as it includes the wages of the police and other services. These people would have been paid their wages whether or not they were involved in the funeral. The true figure would be well under a million - whatever it was, she deserved it.
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What being buried!
 
The Dolphin said:
100%
If you cannot afford to have children then don't have them.
Blair's Government caused massive issues with their policy on this and we are now suffering for it.
Why ramp up the welfare bill so that some useless twats can procreate at our expense.
Makes no sense at all, which is why this Government will likely scrap it.
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So short sighted in so many ways. Zero critical thinking.
 
georgenorman said:
Most sources put the cost at 3.6 million, but that is also an exaggeration as it includes the wages of the police and other services. These people would have been paid their wages whether or not they were involved in the funeral. The true figure would be well under a million - whatever it was, she deserved it.
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To die?
 
Didn't quite know which thread to post in plus I could only copy and paste his tweet.
Starmer is a disgrace.
Palestinian State on Sunday and this on Monday and all with a straight face.
I quote -
Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
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As we welcome the arrival of Rosh Hashanah, I extend my warmest wishes to Jewish communities across the United Kingdom and around the world. This sacred moment invites us to pause, to consider the year gone by, and to look ahead with hope and resolve. It is a time for renewal, for family, and for faith. Yet we do so with a heavy heart while hostages are still held by Hamas. I reaffirm our unwavering commitment to peace, and to the return of those still cruelly held. At a time when antisemitism and intolerance persist, let me be clear: we stand shoulder to shoulder with the Jewish community. We will always challenge hate, and we will always champion the values of inclusion, dignity and respect. May this New Year bring you and your loved ones peace, health and sweetness. Shana Tova U’Metukah.
 
I think the 'YourParty' will become a force on the left.

Corbyn has been sensible in doing it now as it gives him years to eat into the far left section of the left vote.

Advance will probably also eat into Reform's vote base over the coming years as Reform look to protray themselves as very anti immigration but otherwise quite centralist.

If Labour decide on a dirty Pack to try and save themselves in 29, all the parties will dissolve into an unseemly right v left broad contest anyway.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I think the 'YourParty' will become a force on the left.

Corbyn has been sensible in doing it now as it gives him years to eat into the far left section of the left vote.

Advance will probably also eat into Reform's vote base over the coming years as Reform look to protray themselves as very anti immigration but otherwise quite centralist.

If Labour decide on a dirty Pack to try and save themselves in 29, all the parties will dissolve into an unseemly right v left broad contest anyway.
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Libd Dems already talking about a coalition. Apart from Ed Davey's stunts I know nothing about their policies, I assume they are pro EU, pro immigration pro Green pro tax and spend etc. So I genuinely can't see the difference between them and Labour, perhaps a Lib Dem supporter will clarify?

I have no problems with coalitions providing this is announced before an election and the parties state their red lines. The last time the Lib Dems did this they gave up on student fees post election which turned out to be a big deal for their voters.
 
Spindle said:
So short sighted in so many ways. Zero critical thinking.
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Apparently abolishing the 2 child cap will cost 3bn. Even the media are pointing out that this is not a critical necessity and a recent study has shown that since the policy came into being in 2017 there is no noticeable impact on the 3rd child.

I get that some may argue that this is actually the "right thing to do" but when you are deep in debt is it the most important? Sometimes you have to prioritise and forgo certain things.

Personally I would not the throwing money at the Ukraine or Palestine either and i would be looking closely at all these "sick" people. .
 
Badger11 said:
Libd Dems already talking about a coalition. Apart from Ed Davey's stunts I know nothing about their policies, I assume they are pro EU, pro immigration pro Green pro tax and spend etc. So I genuinely can't see the difference between them and Labour, perhaps a Lib Dem supporter will clarify?

I have no problems with coalitions providing this is announced before an election and the parties state their red lines. The last time the Lib Dems did this they gave up on student fees post election which turned out to be a big deal for their voters.
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I think the only real difference is that the Libs champion slightly more more sexual deviant groups than Labour do .
 
Badger11 said:
Apparently abolishing the 2 child cap will cost 3bn. Even the media are pointing out that this is not a critical necessity and a recent study has shown that since the policy came into being in 2017 there is no noticeable impact on the 3rd child.

I get that some may argue that this is actually the "right thing to do" but when you are deep in debt is it the most important? Sometimes you have to prioritise and forgo certain things.

Personally I would not the throwing money at the Ukraine or Palestine either and i would be looking closely at all these "sick" people. .
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2TK ran away from your last recommendation as his MPs kicked off.
Not about money or budgets for these millionaires it’s about votes!
 
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