Israel v Hamas

[Penge Eagle]

As has been demonstrated many times over, to still be in support of Israel’s campaign is a fringe position held by a very small minority of people, regardless of their political leaning.

No, that's your echo chamber.

Generally people who follow conservative politics in the UK support Israel.

Generally people who follow progressive politics in the UK don't.

That's pretty obvious.

Again, you won't find any right wingers on a Palestine Action march. Can you tell me otherwise?

 

[Penge Eagle]

A quick Google search pulls up the anti-Israel protest groups – and they're all on the left. I couldn't find any anti Israel groups from the right.

Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) – Left-wing, broad coalition
Friends of Al-Aqsa (FOA) – Left/progressive, faith-based (Muslim-led)
Stop the War Coalition – Socialist/anti-war
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) – Left-wing, peace-focused
Palestine Action – Radical left, revolutionary
Youth Demand – Far-left, eco-socialist roots
Various Anarchist/Autonomous Groups – Anti-capitalist, anarchist
Na’amod – Progressive left
Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL) – Socialist, pro-Corbyn wing of Labour
National March for Palestine Coalition – Mixed left/progressive
Local Palestinian Solidarity Groups (e.g., Manchester PSC, Bristol PSC) – Local grassroots activism, left-wing

 

[CPFCSaturn]

No, that's your echo chamber.

Generally people who follow conservative politics in the UK support Israel.

Generally people who follow progressive politics in the UK don't.

That's pretty obvious.

Again, you won't find any right wingers on a Palestine Action march. Can you tell me otherwise?

No, it’s not - I’ve provided multiple yougov surveys to support the point already.

From memory the last one had something like 12% of people feeling that Israel has responded appropriately to October 7th.

For comparison, in a 2018 survey, around 12% of brits said they believe lizard people are running the world.

You are a fringe minority.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

A quick Google search pulls up the anti-Israel protest groups – and they're all on the left. I couldn't find any anti Israel groups from the right.

Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) – Left-wing, broad coalition
Friends of Al-Aqsa (FOA) – Left/progressive, faith-based (Muslim-led)
Stop the War Coalition – Socialist/anti-war
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) – Left-wing, peace-focused
Palestine Action – Radical left, revolutionary
Youth Demand – Far-left, eco-socialist roots
Various Anarchist/Autonomous Groups – Anti-capitalist, anarchist
Na’amod – Progressive left
Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL) – Socialist, pro-Corbyn wing of Labour
National March for Palestine Coalition – Mixed left/progressive
Local Palestinian Solidarity Groups (e.g., Manchester PSC, Bristol PSC) – Local grassroots activism, left-wing

You’re going around the point and for some reason have honed in on protests, which is not remotely exhaustive - there’s lots of things I believe and don’t believe which I have never protested about.

Your point of view is about as popular as David Icke’s, and about as credible.

 

[Badger11]

I just find this funny. Celebs really not getting it.

Hamas CENSORS HBO star's dress while sharing her pro-Palestine rant

Hacks star Hannah Einbinder was praised by a Hamas publication in an ironic post on X after she shouted 'free Palestine' in her Emmys acceptance speed Sunday night.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"Free Palestine" (So they can ban me wearing a shoulder less dress) 😀

 

[Penge Eagle]

You’re going around the point and for some reason have honed in on protests, which is not remotely exhaustive - there’s lots of things I believe and don’t believe which I have never protested about.

Your point of view is about as popular as David Icke’s, and about as credible.

The original statement that we are referring to was that the left are anti-Semitic. I would argue that this is the case for each of the anti-Israel groups I listed above.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Thanks to our Middle East correspondent for his summing up.


Haha.

Yet more comedy gold.

So, come on: anyone on this site going to take our Mr Norman to task, lads. Just remember the facts given:

"Being on the Left makes you an antisemite."

I don't know if that is true, but it certainly is amusing to see you lot getting a taste of your own medicine and hating it.

 

[georgenorman]

No, it’s not - I’ve provided multiple yougov surveys to support the point already.

From memory the last one had something like 12% of people feeling that Israel has responded appropriately to October 7th.

For comparison, in a 2018 survey, around 12% of brits said they believe lizard people are running the world.

You are a fringe minority.

Did the other 88% say that Israel should have reacted more strongly?

 

[Glazier#1]

I’m quite good at chess but not Grandmaster standard.

I feel I'm just a pawn most of the time.

 

[Spindle]

One more time, who is counting the population to know it’s increasing?

So the numbers are correct until they prove you wrong, then there's no proof

 

[georgenorman]

I feel I'm just a pawn most of the time.

Bit of an isolated pawn on most topics.

 

[Spindle]

Thanks to our Middle East correspondent for his summing up.


Haha.

Yet more comedy gold.

So, come on: anyone on this site going to take our Mr Norman to task, lads. Just remember the facts given:

"Being on the Left makes you an antisemite."

You laughing doesn't refute him. "The left" hate Israel and love Palestine do they not? They sing "River to the sea" and shout abuse at Jews on counter protests. Do you know of anyone on the left who backs the IDF in Gaza?

 

[Spindle]

As has been demonstrated many times over, to still be in support of Israel’s campaign is a fringe position held by a very small minority of people, regardless of their political leaning.

Total shite. Most people support our allies Israel, they understand who is to blame.

We'd all prefer Hamas to surrender and give up the hostages, it's their call, but they don't.

 

[Spindle]

No, it’s not - I’ve provided multiple yougov surveys to support the point already.

From memory the last one had something like 12% of people feeling that Israel has responded appropriately to October 7th.

For comparison, in a 2018 survey, around 12% of brits said they believe lizard people are running the world.

You are a fringe minority.

No you didn't. I countered all of that bullshit you put up with those daft claims.