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Israel v Hamas
- Topic starter Forest Hillbilly
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It’s actually fascinating to see the mental gymnastics they have to do to continue to justify their position.
CPFCSaturn
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Other matey is going on about Greta Thunberg being a war reporter now 🤣
ASCPFC
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She needs to get a job to be fair. All this swanning around moaning won't pay the bills.
He’s literally the sh*ttest troll I think I’ve ever come across on the internet 🤣
georgenorman
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I'm not - I quite openly say I want Israel to win.
It's you that seem incapable of answering the questions whether you regard Hamas as bad and what a 'proportional' response would be - or indeed who you want to win.
Answered several times.
I want Israel to get rid of Hamas. Hamas are bad. And not killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians either directly through warfare or indirectly through hunger/dehydration/lack of medical equipment supplies and facilities.
Does that help?
georgenorman
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A bit, but what is a proportional response, how should they go about getting rid of Hamas.
If I was an elite military strategist I would be doing so as a job, wouldn’t I George?
The complexities of urban warfare aside, the indiscriminate way they have approached a lot of it is very heavy handed.
Do you think 50,000 civilians dead and many more maimed and injured fair collateral damage for eradicating Hamas? If so, how many more until you think ‘that’s a bit over the top now’?
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Peace only happens when Israel wins.
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Except it's not been indiscriminate or disproportionate as has already been pointed out multiple times. As has the notion that civilians unfortunately die in wars.
The footage, incidents and eye witness accounts from multiple sources that aren’t the Israeli government or the IDF suggest otherwise, as has been pointed out multiple times.
And what exactly does ‘winning’ look like?
eaglesdare
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Credit where credit’s due, this is actually very funny.
If scenes like this aren’t discriminate or disproportionate, I would hate to see what is.
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Ah yes, the ultimate standard of military justice: "some footage, a few incidents, and random eyewitness accounts from people who aren’t the IDF." Brilliant. Case closed. No need for international law, independent investigations, or even basic logic – we’ve got Twitter clips and anonymous testimonies. Why bother with nuance when moral outrage feels so good?
Just impossible. I think there’s been more than ‘some’ footage. More than ‘a few’ ‘random’ eye witness accounts. Ask the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court. Even our own government have said they would arrest Netanyahu if he sets foot on UK soil.
You keep closing your eyes to what is going on. I’m quite happy with where my morals on this are.
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You’re "happy with your morals" but basing them on footage from a warzone controlled by terrorists, unverified eyewitnesses, and courts that haven’t even delivered a verdict yet. The ICC and ICJ haven’t concluded anything. Allegations aren’t guilt. And a UK arrest threat? That’s political theatre, not proof.
Fine. You’re comfortable with your position. I’m comfortable with mine.
Enjoy your evening.