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Israel v Hamas
- Topic starter Forest Hillbilly
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He affirms the statement about Israel committing genocide.
His wife is pro Palestine and has complained about pro-Israel bias at the BBC (which is obvious bollox), signing a letter on behalf of Filmworkers for Palestine.
He has form in cherry-picking extreme Israeli views in a 2011 documentary The Ultra Zionists.
If you think just these points alone make him impartial then it shows your bias.
CPFCSaturn
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I've never said he is impartial, but I also don't think any of the above does much to counter what he showed in his documentary.
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OK, we are in agreement about his impartiality.
I would say most moderate Israelis are embarrassed by many of the settlers. It's quite easy to find people with extreme views in any country and build a narrative. He's just playing to the crowd.
Spindle
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Are you aware that this is an incredibly biased propaganda piece? The only correct part of this is overall sentiment that zionists are arseholes, but aside that if this is where you are getting your history lessons from then you are totally lost, and you are just going to perpetuate the problem.
I did watch it, all of it, and there are so many things that are plain wrong. Aside the constant referral to "Palestine" pre 1948 he even manages to blame the Jews for the wars against their 'peaceful' neighbours in 67 and 73, then goes on to say that the coalition invaded Iraq because the Jews told them to. There are so many lies, omissions and untruths in this that it's far to much to bother to reply to.
The entire piece is insane but you still posted it though? Honestly I would recommend that you take several steps back from it all and do some serious reading about the entire history of the region and any history that affected the region (specifically ww2) from many sources so you can perhaps garner some understanding before you blurt out, frankly, lies.
The poster is a Jew hater so no surprise
Forest Hillbilly
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You can be critical of Israeli government and military action, without being a Jew Hater.
"In recent weeks, thousands of Israeli reservists – from all branches of the military – have signed letters demanding that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government stop the fighting and concentrate instead on reaching a deal to bring back the remaining 59 hostages being held by Hamas." (BBC website)
There seems to be a growing realisation that committing genocide is not the way to protect civilians. Either Jewish hostages, or Palestinians. The USA and Netanyahu seem to have another agenda.
"In recent weeks, thousands of Israeli reservists – from all branches of the military – have signed letters demanding that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government stop the fighting and concentrate instead on reaching a deal to bring back the remaining 59 hostages being held by Hamas." (BBC website)
There seems to be a growing realisation that committing genocide is not the way to protect civilians. Either Jewish hostages, or Palestinians. The USA and Netanyahu seem to have another agenda.
ASCPFC
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I wondered if the Iranians arrested today in the UK were targeting the Israeli embassy? I suspect so.
Forest Hillbilly
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By the logic Netanyahu used in Gaza, perhaps Israel should go and bomb some civilian areas in Iran in retaliation.
ASCPFC
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Iran attacked Israel on 1st October with missiles and drones. Previously, Israel had attacked the Iranian Embassy in Syria - and killed a couple of generals in a targeted attack. Iran/ Israel could be at the heart of all of this.
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Hip Hop group 'kneecap' are t0ssers
Spindle
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But if you only criticise Israel, and the IDF, and you post pieces of blatant propaganda and outright lies, which you did and haven't taken account of that then you are a Jew hater, aren't you.
It's disgusting, you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Indeed, he and Steeleye 20 both in the Jew hating club, there's a few on here.
Anyone is entitled to be a Jew hater but don't try to hide behind semantics.
No police will knock on your door for Jew hating, whereas if you post a comment against almost anything else the police will swoop.
Simply put , the Labour Govt does not care about Jew hate ( regardless of what they say ) but is terrified of , for example, losing more muslim votes.
It's a shame the world is thus but it is.
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Forest Hillbilly
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It's going to be OK. Netanyahu has a new plan.
He is going to move all civilians out of Gaza, deny them aid (food and medicine), then blow up Gaza destroying buildings and infrastructure and kill any HAMAS.
This is very definitely another war crime in the making, however you want to dress it up. Or Ethnic Cleansing, as Hitler would say.
" Israel's security cabinet has approved a plan to expand its military offensive against Hamas which includes the "capture" of Gaza and the holding of its territory, according to an Israeli official.
It is also said to include moving the 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza towards the south, which could worsen the humanitarian crisis." (BBC)
He is going to move all civilians out of Gaza, deny them aid (food and medicine), then blow up Gaza destroying buildings and infrastructure and kill any HAMAS.
This is very definitely another war crime in the making, however you want to dress it up. Or Ethnic Cleansing, as Hitler would say.
" Israel's security cabinet has approved a plan to expand its military offensive against Hamas which includes the "capture" of Gaza and the holding of its territory, according to an Israeli official.
It is also said to include moving the 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza towards the south, which could worsen the humanitarian crisis." (BBC)
Fingers crossed they can eradicate HAMAS totally this time, no repeat of the disgraceful scenes seen at the hostage releases. No more AK 47s carried by uniformed murderers. Only if Hamas is exterminated root and branch do the Palestinians living in Gaza have any shot at a better life.
Spindle
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Looks like the points I made to you were too true to bother with and onwards you go with your lying. What a bot, not even a good one.
Are you actually Muslim though? At least you'd better be Christian because when the takeovers come Christians can convert, Atheists are to be killed.
Spindle
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Not what he wants though. He wants piles of dead Jews by the looks of it.
That was October 7th 2023
Don't know what he wants, but I suspect the majority of Israelis want security and an end to terrorist and rocket attacks, eradicating Hamas would help that aim
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I can't think of a time when there were protests or even topics started on message boards about other territory disputes in the world or REAL genocides. Turkey is currently occupying northern Cyprus and 170,000 Greek Cypriots have lost their homes and properties after having to flee. The homes have been taken by Turkish settlers. No Louis Theroux documentaries. Nobody cares because the Jews aren't involved.
Many care, but none on the left