chris123
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One bit of evidence that Hamas was a player in 2000 relative to the Clinton plan. Your more likely to find it insufficient on any measure you can test for reliability
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Everyone was talking about it at the time. It is often recalled as an example of how the Palestinians threw away the chance of their own state. Because they don't believe in two states - just one. I'll ask again, do you think it was a bad deal?
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No one is suggesting a variant so a bad deal in my view.
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So you think it was a bad deal for Palestine? Wow! How so?
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Things were more territory driven than the Religious drivers now.
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I don't understand what you mean?
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Because it would mean peace and they'd no longer be able to be angry at Jews for the subsequent 70,000 Palestinians who've been killed since then.
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He doesn't either
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So the West Bank and Gaza wasn’t a good starter for them.
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I wae asked a question and it's only an opinion obviously. But it seems to me that the principle drivers now are religious and 25 years ago the emphasis was more territory based.
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Have you ever heard of AI?
I came across this earlier, after by the way, I first expressed my doubts about the authenticity of the video, because of a lack of verification. It makes some of the same points:-
Gaza-bound flotilla rejects Israeli claims of Hamas funding
The Israeli Foreign Ministry claimed that documents found in Gaza prove Hamas’ direct involvement in the humanitarian mission. #EuropeNewswww.euronews.com
This trial is perfect timing. The migrant made a video, but with you as the defence barrister he'd get off because all you have to do is say to the judge "well we don't know it's him as it could be AI, and it was Farage who brought it up and he hates migrants". Case dismissed 🤣
Asylum seeker charged with threatening to kill Farage said 'he's going to shoot me' in TikTok video, Reform leader tells court
Fayaz Khan, 26, is charged with making a threat to kill the Reform UK leader between 12 and 15 October last year in a social media post.
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It’s his go to response when he runs out of absurd arguments, he simply says it is fake.This trial is perfect timing. The migrant made a video, but with you as the defence barrister he'd get off because all you have to do is say to the judge "well we don't know it's him as it could be AI, and it was Farage who brought it up and he hates migrants". Case dismissed 🤣
Asylum seeker charged with threatening to kill Farage said 'he's going to shoot me' in TikTok video, Reform leader tells court
Fayaz Khan, 26, is charged with making a threat to kill the Reform UK leader between 12 and 15 October last year in a social media post.news.sky.com
“Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.” [Orwell]
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You are even more ignorant of the topic than I thought.
Why was it a bad deal for the Palestinians?
Can you explain more details how it's less about territory now and more religious? An incredibly bizarre statement to make.
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The Clinton proposal in 2000 was not supported by any of the parties at the time and if it had merit it would have been resurrected in some form and hasn't. Re territory, simply an opinion. Edit a few Israeli PMs have been atheists including Rabin who was assassinated in 1995.
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It can't be about Gaza and innocent deaths if you are going into the streets on this day of all days.
It can only be about anarchy, communism and jew hating.
I think this image in Athens is a perfect example. The hammer and sickle mixed in with the fake national flag of Palestine. These idiots want a Caliphate and or Communist state - so they would be completely afraid to protest, they'd be killed. Utter morons the lot of them.
And how come these idiots aren't going mental at the Scottish saltire?? I thought UK national flags were "racist"
It can only be about anarchy, communism and jew hating.
I think this image in Athens is a perfect example. The hammer and sickle mixed in with the fake national flag of Palestine. These idiots want a Caliphate and or Communist state - so they would be completely afraid to protest, they'd be killed. Utter morons the lot of them.
And how come these idiots aren't going mental at the Scottish saltire?? I thought UK national flags were "racist"
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A fine display of diversity. We have the peace lovers with their hardcore Islam right here. Women, cover those faces.
Placards to remember the "journalists" who've been killed, but NOTHING on the hostages or those murdered 2 year ago that day. The only reason they have these is just more ammunition fired at Israel, it's got nothing to do with innocents dying. Those holding them are so stereotypical, such useful idiots for the muslims, Hamas would most definitely kill them if they weren't helping them right at this moment.
If my kids were involved in such a thing they'd be disowned. It's Jew hatred pure and simple.
Placards to remember the "journalists" who've been killed, but NOTHING on the hostages or those murdered 2 year ago that day. The only reason they have these is just more ammunition fired at Israel, it's got nothing to do with innocents dying. Those holding them are so stereotypical, such useful idiots for the muslims, Hamas would most definitely kill them if they weren't helping them right at this moment.
If my kids were involved in such a thing they'd be disowned. It's Jew hatred pure and simple.
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I asked why do YOU think it was a bad deal.
You're not giving me an opinion - just repeating worthless information.
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It's all getting rather unhinged - I can't fathom how you end up being more outraged at people protesting than people being massacred.
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It was a bad deal because it wasn't supported at the time and hasn’t been resurrected since, if no one is supporting a plan I can't see any merit in revisiting it 25 years later.
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They were protesting before Israel started its campaign. They were protesting on the day of the October massacre. They support terrorists.
That might be why people are a little outraged.
You support them.