Immigration

Badger11 said:
Your wasting your breath he doesn't understand that the number of vacancies in the UK has been in SERIOUS decline since COVID, the last thing we need in this country is more unskilled labour.

I read the other day that the major high street banks have closed 6000 branches across the country since 2015. That is just one example.
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It seems it’s me who’s wasting breath.

People seem unable to separate what they believe our policies ought to be from the reality faced by those needing to deal with the situation that actually exists now.

It’s like telling the prison service that under capacity is not a problem, so early release or lighter sentencing is unnecessary, because you will cut crime rates. The latter is long term. The need is current.

Banks closing branches is down to changing needs. We are rapidly becoming a cashless society that shops online. So what is needed to service those changes has to change too. It’s the same in many service industries. Sure it will reduce employment for some and mean retraining for many. That’s the way our world is today.
 
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Wisbech Eagle said:
It seems it’s me who’s wasting breath.

People seem unable to separate what they believe our policies ought to be from the reality faced by those needing to deal with the situation that actually exists now.

It’s like telling the prison service that under capacity is not a problem, so early release or lighter sentencing is unnecessary, because you will cut crime rates. The latter is long term. The need is current.
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Have a read back at my post on the 1st of June on this very topic and see what my view was on it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They are asylum seekers awaiting decisions on their applications! There is a need to accommodate them whilst that happens.

I know you think we ought to just sink the boats or send them back to France but neither is being done at the moment and is very unlikely anytime soon.

So there is a need. Whether you think there is a need for non skilled economic migrants is an entirely separate issue.
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Show me figures - the percentage of these applications accepted. It’s very low. Go on, show us. They are mostly economic migrants, always were.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It seems it’s me who’s wasting breath.

People seem unable to separate what they believe our policies ought to be from the reality faced by those needing to deal with the situation that actually exists now.

It’s like telling the prison service that under capacity is not a problem, so early release or lighter sentencing is unnecessary, because you will cut crime rates. The latter is long term. The need is current.

Banks closing branches is down to changing needs. We are rapidly becoming a cashless society that shops online. So what is needed to service those changes has to change too. It’s the same in many service industries. Sure it will reduce employment for some and mean retraining for many. That’s the way our world is today.
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So we import loads of unskilled people who will be replaced by robots. Said people will multiply like rabbits if they allow their partners to come. Oh yeah they’re all experiencing war. The men come and leave the women and maybe children.

What a load of guff. This is what happens… unskilled man is told in an office near where he lives what awaits him in England. Great he thinks. I’ll scrape together the money, legally or illegally. Must be illegally in a lot of cases bearing in mind the average wage. War and persecution? Bollox.
 
Common Sense Club said:
It had always amazed me that the French don’t do something similar. I appreciate that I have no idea of the suitability of what I am proposing, but what the UK has as overseas territories, the French actually classify as being a district of France. Consequently anybody moved to one of their many islands around the world would legally only be being moved within France, not being moved overseas. Not sure the liberals would have any legal route to complain.
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I don't think Reunion residents would be happy.


Meanwhile, more rights to those who culturally enrich us.

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Rudi Hedman said:
So we import loads of unskilled people who will be replaced by robots. Said people will multiply like rabbits if they allow their partners to come. Oh yeah they’re all experiencing war. The men come and leave the women and maybe children.

What a load of guff. This is what happens… unskilled man is told in an office near where he lives what awaits him in England. Great he thinks. I’ll scrape together the money, legally or illegally. Must be illegally in a lot of cases bearing in mind the average wage. War and persecution? Bollox.
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Are you deliberately missing the point or can you really not understand it?

You are changing the subject!
 
Rudi Hedman said:
Show me figures - the percentage of these applications accepted. It’s very low. Go on, show us. They are mostly economic migrants, always were.
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Very low? Where do you get that idea from? I thought it is between 50% and 75% who ultimately succeed but asked ChatGPT for confirmation (just as you can). This is part of the response:-

“To estimate the overall success rate, consider:

If about 48–49% are granted at the initial stage, and of the remainder, roughly 48–50% succeed on appeal, then total success could approach ~70–75% when both stages are considered.
However, this is a rough estimate. Since not all refusals are appealed—and not all applicants win on appeal—the actual success rate including appeals is somewhat lower than a simple sum.”

You can also look on the Parliament website:-


None of which is the point. Whilst their applications are being processed they are all legal.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Very low? Where do you get that idea from? I thought it is between 50% and 75% who ultimately succeed but asked ChatGPT for confirmation (just as you can). This is part of the response:-

“To estimate the overall success rate, consider:

If about 48–49% are granted at the initial stage, and of the remainder, roughly 48–50% succeed on appeal, then total success could approach ~70–75% when both stages are considered.
However, this is a rough estimate. Since not all refusals are appealed—and not all applicants win on appeal—the actual success rate including appeals is somewhat lower than a simple sum.”

You can also look on the Parliament website:-


None of which is the point. Whilst their applications are being processed they are all legal.
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have you had many stabbings, shootings & Rape gangs there in Cornwall ? nope, i didnt think so.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
have you had many stabbings, shootings & Rape gangs there in Cornwall ? nope, i didnt think so.
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Or increase in burglaries, street crime, drug dealing and workers who are paid in a way which avoids Income Tax and NI contributions ? Crimes where the police will not discuss ethnicity of the suspects ?
White Flight: in action
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Very low? Where do you get that idea from? I thought it is between 50% and 75% who ultimately succeed but asked ChatGPT for confirmation (just as you can). This is part of the response:-

“To estimate the overall success rate, consider:

If about 48–49% are granted at the initial stage, and of the remainder, roughly 48–50% succeed on appeal, then total success could approach ~70–75% when both stages are considered.
However, this is a rough estimate. Since not all refusals are appealed—and not all applicants win on appeal—the actual success rate including appeals is somewhat lower than a simple sum.”

You can also look on the Parliament website:-


None of which is the point. Whilst their applications are being processed they are all legal.
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Those coming to the UK in dinghies, entered the country illegally.
From GOV.UK:
Illegal entry or irregular arrival: definitions and legal basis
Entry with or without leave
Section 3(1)(a) of the Immigration Act 1971 states that, persons who are not British
citizens shall not enter the UK unless given leave in accordance with provisions in
the Immigration Act 1971 or made under that act.
Entry without leave is a breach of section 3(1)(a) and therefore constitutes illegal
entry as defined by section 33(1) of the Immigration Act 1971 (as amended by the
1996 Asylum and Immigration Act).
Under section 24 (B1) of the Immigration Act 1971, a person who a) requires leave
to enter the United Kingdom and, b) knowingly enters the UK without such leave,
commits an offence which is triable both ways.
A person who commits this offence, on summary conviction in England and Wales,
to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or a fine, or both. On summary
conviction in Scotland, that person is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
12 months, or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or both. In Northern
Ireland, the maximum sentence on summary conviction is 6 months imprisonment, or
a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or both.
For conviction on indictment, that person is liable to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding 4 years or a fine, or both.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Very low? Where do you get that idea from? I thought it is between 50% and 75% who ultimately succeed but asked ChatGPT for confirmation (just as you can). This is part of the response:-

“To estimate the overall success rate, consider:

If about 48–49% are granted at the initial stage, and of the remainder, roughly 48–50% succeed on appeal, then total success could approach ~70–75% when both stages are considered.
However, this is a rough estimate. Since not all refusals are appealed—and not all applicants win on appeal—the actual success rate including appeals is somewhat lower than a simple sum.”

You can also look on the Parliament website:-


None of which is the point. Whilst their applications are being processed they are all legal.
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This is complete sh1t. They are granted on appeal because those in charge from top to bottom have no intention of deporting them so it is their way of getting them off their hands. And while we’re at it, most of these illegals throw their documents into the channel to lie their way through their asylum application/gentle questioning.

And how the hell do you explain nearly 90% of them being men if they are experiencing war?

When the Ukrainian women came it was them and their children only. Some households took them in. This on the other hand is a p1ss take. So what wars are they escaping. Please provide details
 
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Forest Hillbilly said:
Or increase in burglaries, street crime, drug dealing and workers who are paid in a way which avoids Income Tax and NI contributions ? Crimes where the police will not discuss ethnicity of the suspects ?
White Flight: in action
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One of the least affected by demographic change in the country.

He's on here because he doesn't like us but also principally to wind us up....the double standards being one of them.

He maintains that principle every day, unlike his gas appliances.
 
Stirlingsays said:
One of the least affected by demographic change in the country.

He's on here because he doesn't like us but also principally to wind us up....the double standards being one of them.

He maintains that principle every day, unlike his gas appliances.
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He doesn’t like us and he loves the establishment that doesn’t like us too.

He lives in Truro. No more needs to be said on that one.
 
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Rudi Hedman said:
There’s no doubt a nice bowling green near Truro they can pitch tents on and use the clubhouse facilities. They’re asylum seekers escaping war and are a priority over our interests after all.
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I'm not one for giving illegal immigrants an easy time, but putting them in close proximity to Wisbelch seems a bit harsh.
 
ASCPFC said:
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'I'm visiting every country without leaving London'

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Every culture apart from one. Home Counties Anglo-Saxon. You may get some English Northerners......them having been run out of Blackpool or West Yorkshire. But not so many from the Home Counties. That latter group having decamped yonks ago to Essex , Kent, or Creepy Crawley. And if you want to hear Cockney ? best getting a plane to Benidorm.

Immigration.
Denmark has some fantastic visionary new Laws to prevent ghettos. Ghettos that are aloof from the native culture. Lefty travelogue journalist Simon thingy made a fool of himself with his reaction to these.

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Denmark’s migration reset sets stage for EU-wide rethink

Denmark has reframed the debate on migration by adopting highly restrictive rules presented through the lens of progressive politics. #EuropeNews
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