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Immigration

What’s most disturbing in 2025 is seeing imbeciles still denying the easily demonstrable demise of British culture, and more significantly, the British themselves.
I feel sorry for people who still deny this purely for political reasons. Maybe with some of them it’s just plain stupidity.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They aren’t riots. They are protests.

They aren’t by foreign illegal invaders. They are by citizens protesting about the aggressive behaviour of the immigration task force.

The local police force were managing the protests very effectively and arresting anyone who went too far. The responsibility for such matters lies with the State Governor.

This is a publicity stunt by Trump to please his base and divert attention away from his row with Musk.

It’s typical Trump. So is your reaction.
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Is this factual or what you have surmised?
 
Spiderman said:
Is this factual or what you have surmised?
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I have watched the footage, and read the statements from the police and the Governor. I have no doubt that there will be a mix of people involved but in LA it seems that everyone rights are respected, whether already a legal citizen or just a temporary one.

It’s not unusual when protests of this kind attract a few hotheads or are infiltrated by political activists but the police can handle it. If the military are needed because it gets beyond their capacity then the mechanisms exist for them to be called in. By the local politicians who know the circumstances, know their people and how best to calm things.

Trump responding to video footage whilst watching a sporting event is hardly the best way. He is making things worse. Throwing petrol on a fire. Doing so for political reasons to look to be the tough guy.

Not much surmising needed with Trump involved. It’s obvious.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I have watched the footage, and read the statements from the police and the Governor. I have no doubt that there will be a mix of people involved but in LA it seems that everyone rights are respected, whether already a legal citizen or just a temporary one.

It’s not unusual when protests of this kind attract a few hotheads or are infiltrated by political activists but the police can handle it. If the military are needed because it gets beyond their capacity then the mechanisms exist for them to be called in. By the local politicians who know the circumstances, know their people and how best to calm things.

Trump responding to video footage whilst watching a sporting event is hardly the best way. He is making things worse. Throwing petrol on a fire. Doing so for political reasons to look to be the tough guy.

Not much surmising needed with Trump involved. It’s obvious.
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Perhaps....but more likely, in my opinion, to make him look like the only guy that can get things sorted out. Definitely playing to his crowd. And definitely for political reasons.
 
NEILLO said:
Perhaps....but more likely, in my opinion, to make him look like the only guy that can get things sorted out. Definitely playing to his crowd. And definitely for political reasons.
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Yep. 100% this.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I have watched the footage, and read the statements from the police and the Governor. I have no doubt that there will be a mix of people involved but in LA it seems that everyone rights are respected, whether already a legal citizen or just a temporary one.

It’s not unusual when protests of this kind attract a few hotheads or are infiltrated by political activists but the police can handle it. If the military are needed because it gets beyond their capacity then the mechanisms exist for them to be called in. By the local politicians who know the circumstances, know their people and how best to calm things.

Trump responding to video footage whilst watching a sporting event is hardly the best way. He is making things worse. Throwing petrol on a fire. Doing so for political reasons to look to be the tough guy.

Not much surmising needed with Trump involved. It’s obvious.
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So not all citizens then? Possibly some illegal migrants?
 
What's happening in the States is predictable and was avoidable, but I'm more concerned with this country where 1 in 4 primary schools now have a minority of White British children, with a significant number having no White British children. The only London borough with a majority of White British kids is Bromley.
I have explained in the past how birth rate can change the population in a shorter time than most would imagine, and even now there are still some dimwits who claim that our virtual replacement is a myth.

The acceleration will come as a shock to some, but I suspect that some deniers know exactly what is happening.
 
Spiderman said:
So not all citizens then? Possibly some illegal migrants?
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Not possibly. Almost certainly! But not the point. I doubt that anyone knows the proportions or ever will. The reaction appears clearly to have primarily come from the residents of heavily Latino areas. Most of whom will be citizens and who were upset at the heavy-handed methods employed by the ICE operatives. Even undocumented migrants are human beings who have rights. It might be difficult for Trump to accept that, but that doesn't change the facts. There are better ways to process claims and remove those who fail to meet the criteria than forceful arrest and removal without habeas corpus.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Not possibly. Almost certainly! But not the point. I doubt that anyone knows the proportions or ever will. The reaction appears clearly to have primarily come from the residents of heavily Latino areas. Most of whom will be citizens and who were upset at the heavy-handed methods employed by the ICE operatives. Even undocumented migrants are human beings who have rights. It might be difficult for Trump to accept that, but that doesn't change the facts. There are better ways to process claims and remove those who fail to meet the criteria than forceful arrest and removal without habeas corpus.
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They won't have been whipped up by activist or gangsters. And there will be no looting, burning or deaths. All totally above board. I presume you supported the South London riots too.
I don't think it's much of a stretch to think every country could benefit from getting rid of illegal immigrants as quickly as possible.
When several are dead and there are billions of dollars of damage to business and infrastructure, I also presume that anything Trump did was worse.
Will you admit to there being opportunists who will have already began looting? The clue was when we were told they were heading down town.
I presume Footlocker are heavily involved with Trump or maybe Israel or George Floyd. So an obvious target.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
What's happening in the States is predictable and was avoidable, but I'm more concerned with this country where 1 in 4 primary schools now have a minority of White British children, with a significant number having no White British children. The only London borough with a majority of White British kids is Bromley.
I have explained in the past how birth rate can change the population in a shorter time than most would imagine, and even now there are still some dimwits who claim that our virtual replacement is a myth.

The acceleration will come as a shock to some, but I suspect that some deniers know exactly what is happening.
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That's true, but not for the reasons you claim.

The world has changed, yet you and others seem to think we can isolate ourselves from it. We cannot. We need to learn, adjust, absorb and enjoy. Anyone who doesn't or cannot is destined to live a frustrated and increasingly disappointed existence in which the pleasures of life are missing.

We are not being replaced! We are being expanded and enhanced. There's more to enjoy now. So enjoy it.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
That's true, but not for the reasons you claim.

The world has changed, yet you and others seem to think we can isolate ourselves from it. We cannot. We need to learn, adjust, absorb and enjoy. Anyone who doesn't or cannot is destined to live a frustrated and increasingly disappointed existence in which the pleasures of life are missing.

We are not being replaced! We are being expanded and enhanced. There's more to enjoy now. So enjoy it.
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We could incentivise our own people to have children. We could control our own borders. We could get all of the unemployed and nearly all of the people with disabilities into jobs or schemes. But instead, let's get a load of foreign people who don't even like us to do it. It's working out so well. I presume everyone feels enhanced by this. Thank you.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
We are not being replaced! We are being expanded and enhanced. There's more to enjoy now. So enjoy it.
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if a statistician was to randomly select 100 live births at any maternity Ward, what percentage would be to a married British couple with the man employed and paying taxes ? would it be 5% of live births ? maybe 8%
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Not possibly. Almost certainly! But not the point. I doubt that anyone knows the proportions or ever will. The reaction appears clearly to have primarily come from the residents of heavily Latino areas. Most of whom will be citizens and who were upset at the heavy-handed methods employed by the ICE operatives. Even undocumented migrants are human beings who have rights. It might be difficult for Trump to accept that, but that doesn't change the facts. There are better ways to process claims and remove those who fail to meet the criteria than forceful arrest and removal without habeas corpus.
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So those who fail to meet the criteria, then disappear into the ether, with the help of others. How then do you remove them? Or do you just let them remain , illegally, indefinitely?
Absolutely no excuse of looting in any circumstances imo
 
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