Glasner's future

[mtp1958]

Let's not forget, we don't have a certain Mr Freedman spotting gems for us now. This could be a factor.

Remember the old days when people on here was asking what is freedman's job , and he isnt doing anything , all of a sudden he was the best thing since sliced bread , mmmm short memoirs , thought OG is more involved on that side until we have a permanent person in place , I maybe wrong

 

[mtp1958]

Again showing you are an idiot and in your own bubble.

Which other manager has won a trophy NONE

At the end of the day this is the second year Palace have messed about with OG yes last year they did end up doing business but only because they was forced to.

We do look like amateur outfit a lot of time and this Europe stuff has shown it.

Time to stop doing everything on super cheap and in many areas put in some quality. (wont happen Tex was right under SP complete lack of ambition)

mmm lets see Coppell got us promotion , 3rd in the top division and not far from winning it , also FA cup final , ok won ZDF but was a trophy , so yes Coppell is the better manager for now , its Glasners to better , just think 3rd place now is champions lge , and lets go big and into admin again to satisfy you , learn from history dont make same mistake for the 4th time

 

[Canterbury Palace]

Of course it is, 3rd in the Premier league is 1000 times better achievement than winning the FA Cup, although the cup is a great achievement, Coppell was 8mins away from doing both, he is No 1

Wasn't the Premier League back then and less super rich clubs buying their way to the top of the table so less difficult to finish that high up.

Steve Coppell is a legend and whether he or Glasner are the best isn't really a debate we need to have I suppose.

The point is that Glasner is here now and with him we could massively move on as a club but if we don't support him adequately and leave it's going to be such a disappointment.

We don't need to be irresponsible with the spending but need to show more ambition than this.

 

[mtp1958]

Wasn't the Premier League back then and less super rich clubs buying their way to the top of the table so less difficult to finish that high up.

Steve Coppell is a legend and whether he or Glasner are the best isn't really a debate we need to have I suppose.

The point is that Glasner is here now and with him we could massively move on as a club but if we don't support him adequately and leave it's going to be such a disappointment.

We don't need to be irresponsible with the spending but need to show more ambition than this.

very true , think people keep forgetting its 4 weeks until window closes , yes would be nice to have players in place and maybe we will , if we keep the first 11 , that in its self is a major plus , 3 more signings takes us up to 20 first team players , any buy now is a risk and OG does know that , think people on here think OG is like all other managers and walk away at a drop of a hat , he is not , he likes a challenge

 

[ASCPFC]

very true , think people keep forgetting its 4 weeks until window closes , yes would be nice to have players in place and maybe we will , if we keep the first 11 , that in its self is a major plus , 3 more signings takes us up to 20 first team players , any buy now is a risk and OG does know that , think people on here think OG is like all other managers and walk away at a drop of a hat , he is not , he likes a challenge

Glasner does not have a history of sticking around, frankly. He seems pretty single minded. When you look at his career, it looks like he doesn't mind falling out with clubs if they don't match his ambitions.

 

[rikz]

Remember the old days when people on here was asking what is freedman's job , and he isnt doing anything , all of a sudden he was the best thing since sliced bread , mmmm short memoirs , thought OG is more involved on that side until we have a permanent person in place , I maybe wrong

Freedman has never been responsible for unearthing gems across the world, we have a full scouting network that does that, do people genuinely think freedman has been flying around the world watching all different leagues and sat at home all day watching different matches, scouting players. He's in charge of negotiating with the club and player.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

Let's face it lads, nobody on here really knows what's going on and, at the moment Ollie's in charge and not likely to be leaving any time soon. He seems happy enough and will obviously be much more settled when our European adventure is sorted.

Whilst there has been less movement in the transfer market than many hoped for, it seems increasingly unlikely that we will lose key players so I am eternally optimistic that Ollie will stick around long enough to win us a place in another European competition next season.

 

[Canterbury Palace]

Glasner does not have a history of sticking around, frankly. He seems pretty single minded. When you look at his career, it looks like he doesn't mind falling out with clubs if they don't match his ambitions.

Maybe it's time a club did align with his ambitions? I don't quite know what the line is here but I'm pretty sure a £2m spend with the season starting in two weeks isn't good enough.

It's a season where many of our rivals around the middle of the table have been gutted for key players, mainly by the teams at the top.

So if we take this opportunity to retain our first XI and strengthen the squad, there's no reason we couldn't overtake that pack and aim for 8th/9th.

 

[Eagleman13]

Freedman has never been responsible for unearthing gems across the world, we have a full scouting network that does that, do people genuinely think freedman has been flying around the world watching all different leagues and sat at home all day watching different matches, scouting players. He's in charge of negotiating with the club and player.

That'll be why he, in person, flew to Brazil, at Textors behest, to go look at Franca then.

 

[NEILLO]

That'll be why he, in person, flew to Brazil, at Textors behest, to go look at Franca then.

Let’s hope that’s not documented anywhere !

 

[grumpymort]

Freedman has never been responsible for unearthing gems across the world, we have a full scouting network that does that, do people genuinely think freedman has been flying around the world watching all different leagues and sat at home all day watching different matches, scouting players. He's in charge of negotiating with the club and player.

Some of that is true and the rest incorrect.

Not all clubs operate the same way.

A large 100% of scouting is done via data now and team members looking at that and then they will have someone like Freedman in Palace case take a look or have a chat with few people.

Scouting networks is what big clubs do or old school it's expensive (That is a big benefit with multi clubs)

From what I can see DF has still not been replaced who is even in charge of the roles he used to do?

 

[pssguy]

I doubt in the extreme if Johnson thinks his financial commitment ends at his initial investment. And why can't he be satisfied with the percentage he's bought ?

As for Ratcliffe, he's inherited an unholy mess at United. Not a fair comparison in my view.

And for the piece in bold - that's just not the case....City, Liverpool, Chelsea, are definitely MCO's and they seem to be doing ok.

Palace is not a charity and Johnson is a businessman not a fan. Unlikely, he will stump up cash unless he can get other shareholders to pitch in, which is a possiblity

MCO means Multi Club Ownership not Multi ownership Club. Bit confusing, possibly, but completely different entities. Chelsea have two owners but Liverpool and City have only one,in contrast to Palace's four significant investors

 

[pssguy]

I also imagine that when the board made any promises last year they didn't expect that they'd be needing to strengthen for European football.
Shame you can't write clauses into verbal promises the same way you can with a player 😁

Seems to be a recurring problem at Palace; not planning for possible eventualities. After the finish we had in 2023/24 - even without Olise - all the pundits I read/heard had us finishing 9-11 so fans would have hoped for more

 

[pssguy]

Maybe it's time a club did align with his ambitions? I don't quite know what the line is here but I'm pretty sure a £2m spend with the season starting in two weeks isn't good enough.

It's a season where many of our rivals around the middle of the table have been gutted for key players, mainly by the teams at the top.

So if we take this opportunity to retain our first XI and strengthen the squad, there's no reason we couldn't overtake that pack and aim for 8th/9th.

Even if we do get players in now, it will be difficult to work a lot with them in training assuming we get a decent run of European games i.e. don't get eliminated in the Conference play-off. As you mention, several of our rivals will also be looking to pick up players late so that is likely to push up prices
Maybe just hold on to Guehi and Eze (assuming the release clause is not actioned) and see where we stand in January

 

[rikz]

That'll be why he, in person, flew to Brazil, at Textors behest, to go look at Franca then.

Well yeah, he's the sporting director, thats part of his job but he will have a head scout who reports to him, who in turn has scouts working for him, he tells the scouts what we need, they will give him feedback on players, he will look at all options, he will know the value and wages of the player, go to parish who will have to give it the okay, then go negotiate with the club and player

 

[chris123]

Palace is not a charity and Johnson is a businessman not a fan. Unlikely, he will stump up cash unless he can get other shareholders to pitch in, which is a possiblity

MCO means Multi Club Ownership not Multi ownership Club. Bit confusing, possibly, but completely different entities. Chelsea have two owners but Liverpool and City have only one,in contrast to Palace's four significant investors

You can be both surely

 

[Eagleman13]

Well yeah, he's the sporting director, thats part of his job but he will have a head scout who reports to him, who in turn has scouts working for him, he tells the scouts what we need, they will give him feedback on players, he will look at all options, he will know the value and wages of the player, go to parish who will have to give it the okay, then go negotiate with the club and player

Seeing as he is no longer employed by CPFC, it's all irrelevant. to answer your post above, that is not what you posted which is why i replied to you.

 

[rikz]

Some of that is true and the rest incorrect.

Not all clubs operate the same way.

A large 100% of scouting is done via data now and team members looking at that and then they will have someone like Freedman in Palace case take a look or have a chat with few people.

Scouting networks is what big clubs do or old school it's expensive (That is a big benefit with multi clubs)

From what I can see DF has still not been replaced who is even in charge of the roles he used to do?

Well yeah, with technology, professionalism and money in the game nowadays there's far more to it than having scouts just watching matches. There's no such thing as football managers anymore, they dont manage anything. They're just a first team coach, the sporting director basically does everything else they used to do. It wasn't too long ago the board would criticise the managers transfer window.