Glasner, Part 2

[crvenaeagle]

Glasner isn't a manager refusing to play anything other than his way, he is a manager who had a board claim they are on board with his way and then not backing him.
Same story with every manager we get.

And re: page 2, it's not Dyche we'll get, it's PC Southgate.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

You stick to your opinions because you struggle with facts

Seems you struggle about most things, the football at the moment is the most boring, negative, uninspiring, anti-skill Rubbish, i have seen, makes Roy look like Pep, Obviously it is only my Opinion, Old Boy

 

[NEILLO]

Seems you struggle about most things, the football at the moment is the most boring, negative, uninspiring, anti-skill Rubbish, i have seen, makes Roy look like Pep, Obviously it is only my Opinion, Old Boy

The only thing I struggle with is the constant barrage of rubbish you spout on here. My fault, I should just ignore it.

I think you’ve been called out enough times not to be taken seriously. But what would you do without the attention that you so obviously crave ….rhetorical, please don’t bother answering 🤣

 

[DANGERCLOSE]

Glasner just needs to be backed more in the transfer market.

 

[rollercoaster]

I have noticed Glasner doesn't get the same stick as Roy got for the (in my opinion) necessary quite negative tactics we've employed to get out of the rut we were in.

I agree with Lanzo that 4-2-3-1 would appear to be the best formation to get the best from the better players, Eze in particular. We're doing ok with Glasner's method however and I think any change would be a huge and unnecessary risk.

I do hope the club have a coherant approach to move the personnel towards the (only) way Glasner plays.

 

[est1905]

There isnt much, if any, logic to what i say, i hate the formation, but just have a bad feeling, i hope everything works well for OG, but i am nervous about him

You even admit to not presenting any logic to your post yet you post it anyway. The facts are we have lost 1 game in 7 and 3 in 15! thats a better recent record than anyone except Liverpool and Chelsea. Even Villa, Spuds, Brighton and City have done worse than us in the same run of games.
Personally I've never felt so comfortable defensively while maintaining an attacking threat. Anyone who wants Glasner out AND has Palace best interests at heart seriously need their head examined.

He is the best our club is going to get. Who you want to replace him with? Dyche? Moyes? 🤣

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

90% of HOLers are Lemmings, and will follow anything they are told, and will follow OG off the cliff with his formation, where even the thickest of HOLers, and there is a lot to choose from, Can see that 4-2-3-1 is the best formation for the players available.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

You even admit to not presenting any logic to your post yet you post it anyway. The facts are we have lost 1 game in 7 and 3 in 15! thats a better recent record than anyone except Liverpool and Chelsea. Even Villa, Spuds, Brighton and City have done worse than us in the same run of games.
Personally I've never felt so comfortable defensively while maintaining an attacking threat. Anyone who wants Glasner out AND has Palace best interests at heart seriously need their head examined.

He is the best our club is going to get. Who you want to replace him with? Dyche? Moyes? 🤣

Lemming

 

[MrRobbo]

90% of HOLers are Lemmings, and will follow anything they are told, and will follow OG off the cliff with his formation, where even the thickest of HOLers, and there is a lot to choose from, Can see that 4-2-3-1 is the best formation for the players available.

Jeez, you are really on one today.

Personally I put more trust in a manager with all his coaching badges, and a European cup under his belt than, ummmm......you

 

[est1905]

Seems you struggle about most things, the football at the moment is the most boring, negative, uninspiring, anti-skill Rubbish, i have seen, makes Roy look like Pep, Obviously it is only my Opinion, Old Boy

The only rubbish is this. I am entertained nearly every game these days. I've not spoken to one single fan that shares this view. Yes the Brentford game was not great. Tell me one team, just one that has you on the edge of your seat every game.
We attack in numbers and squeeze the space. We try and play in the oppositions third as much as possible. We have a striker in the form of his life, Wharton poised to return, Esse having had a taste of success is desperate for more, a rock solid defence, we are 100 times better this season at both attacking and defending set pieces.
I just dont see what more you expect in the real world. You seem to think you support a top 6 club that has some god given right to be both entertained and win every single week. Whining the first time we lose in weeks is frankly childish and naive

 

[est1905]

Lemming

Yeah, as said, childish and naive.

 

[est1905]

90% of HOLers are Lemmings, and will follow anything they are told, and will follow OG off the cliff with his formation, where even the thickest of HOLers, and there is a lot to choose from, Can see that 4-2-3-1 is the best formation for the players available.

🤣 🤣 🤣
And you are going to educate all of us are you?
🤣🤣🤣

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

🤣 🤣 🤣
And you are going to educate all of us are you?
🤣🤣🤣

Time will tell, lets give it until 5 games from the end and let the panic begin

 

[Palacesince64]

Time will tell, lets give it until 5 games from the end and let the panic begin

Which team do you really support Lanzo?

 

[PatrickA]

Without wishing to get into name calling with fellow posters, perhaps it’s better to examine the core of the debate on Glasner.

Some are unwilling to even engage in the debate i.e ‘Glasner is our best manager in years’ ..’ he sees the players in training ‘ ….’he’s far more knowledgeable than a mere fan’ etc.

Some will engage in a debate and provide reasons why the system does suit our squad and point out that it’s not a rigid system as there’s flexibility built in depending upon whether we’re in or out of possession.

Some on here are of the opinion that our current squad would suit a back 4 better.
Nobody can say for sure because we have not tried it for any meaningful length of time.

It’s probably uncontroversial to say the wing back system suits Munoz, but not Mitchell.

It’s also fair to say that the system does not appear to suit Nketiah or Kamada , although no doubt some would say they’re not good enough regardless of the system!

In my view the system does not appear to get the best out of Eze as he operates in a very narrow area of the field making it far easier to contain him.
Back in the day when I played (a long time ago sadly) talented players were told to ‘find space’ on the field so they could best influence proceedings and hurt the opposition.
Surely this would be possible to achieve within a team structure.Let him drift and find the gaps.
I also don’t like a 2 man central midfield.
It leaves us frequently outnumbered and places huge demands on the players selected.

I also feel that Guehi and Lacroix are more than capable of forming a very solid partnership without the need for a 3rd ( often redundant) centre back.
It’s rare that we encounter more than one striker in any event and it’s noteworthy that, 3 centre backs or not , we still conceded from a header on Sunday.

I’m not saying Glasner is a bad manager, or suggesting I know more about football than Glasner.
I’m just suggesting that it would be interesting to see us play with a back 4 and extra man in midfield.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Without wishing to get into name calling with fellow posters, perhaps it’s better to examine the core of the debate on Glasner.

Some are unwilling to even engage in the debate i.e ‘Glasner is our best manager in years’ ..’ he sees the players in training ‘ ….’he’s far more knowledgeable than a mere fan’ etc.

Some will engage in a debate and provide reasons why the system does suit our squad and point out that it’s not a rigid system as there’s flexibility built in depending upon whether we’re in or out of possession.

Some on here are of the opinion that our current squad would suit a back 4 better.
Nobody can say for sure because we have not tried it for any meaningful length of time.

It’s probably uncontroversial to say the wing back system suits Munoz, but not Mitchell.

It’s also fair to say that the system does not appear to suit Nketiah or Kamada , although no doubt some would say they’re not good enough regardless of the system!

In my view the system does not appear to get the best out of Eze as he operates in a very narrow area of the field making it far easier to contain him.
Back in the day when I played (a long time ago sadly) talented players were told to ‘find space’ on the field so they could best influence proceedings and hurt the opposition.
Surely this would be possible to achieve within a team structure.Let him drift and find the gaps.
I also don’t like a 2 man central midfield.
It leaves us frequently outnumbered and places huge demands on the players selected.

I also feel that Guehi and Lacroix are more than capable of forming a very solid partnership without the need for a 3rd ( often redundant) centre back.
It’s rare that we encounter more than one striker in any event and it’s noteworthy that, 3 centre backs or not , we still conceded from a header on Sunday.

I’m not saying Glasner is a bad manager, or suggesting I know more about football than Glasner.
I’m just suggesting that it would be interesting to see us play with a back 4 and extra man in midfield.

That, more eloquently put, is what i am saying, Players first, Formation Second, adapt to the needs of the players, not the reverse, in the end unless 2 or 3 players are added to suit the style, i feel a struggle to stay up will ensue, Esse has played all of his games at Millwall on the RW, of a 4-2-3-1, so another player out of position

 

[JHB]

Without wishing to get into name calling with fellow posters, perhaps it’s better to examine the core of the debate on Glasner.

Some are unwilling to even engage in the debate i.e ‘Glasner is our best manager in years’ ..’ he sees the players in training ‘ ….’he’s far more knowledgeable than a mere fan’ etc.

Some will engage in a debate and provide reasons why the system does suit our squad and point out that it’s not a rigid system as there’s flexibility built in depending upon whether we’re in or out of possession.

Some on here are of the opinion that our current squad would suit a back 4 better.
Nobody can say for sure because we have not tried it for any meaningful length of time.

It’s probably uncontroversial to say the wing back system suits Munoz, but not Mitchell.

It’s also fair to say that the system does not appear to suit Nketiah or Kamada , although no doubt some would say they’re not good enough regardless of the system!

In my view the system does not appear to get the best out of Eze as he operates in a very narrow area of the field making it far easier to contain him.
Back in the day when I played (a long time ago sadly) talented players were told to ‘find space’ on the field so they could best influence proceedings and hurt the opposition.
Surely this would be possible to achieve within a team structure.Let him drift and find the gaps.
I also don’t like a 2 man central midfield.
It leaves us frequently outnumbered and places huge demands on the players selected.

I also feel that Guehi and Lacroix are more than capable of forming a very solid partnership without the need for a 3rd ( often redundant) centre back.
It’s rare that we encounter more than one striker in any event and it’s noteworthy that, 3 centre backs or not , we still conceded from a header on Sunday.

I’m not saying Glasner is a bad manager, or suggesting I know more about football than Glasner.
I’m just suggesting that it would be interesting to see us play with a back 4 and extra man in midfield.

It’s a tricky one because playing players in a disciplined shape, rather than letting the likes of Eze roam, is one of the reasons we are hard to beat. Our front three work well as a unit when we don’t have the ball and don’t let the opposition exploit space they’ve left. We stifled Brentford creatively on Sunday with individual errors costing us goals rather than team shape. On the other hand that rigid shape is probably hindering us creatively.

It was fine when all of Eze, Olise and Wharton were fit and available as each could create in their own way. Without that creativity we are reliant on two wingbacks who aren’t great at supplying the front. Mitchell isn’t a natural at getting forward and Munoz is sometimes let down by technical ability.

All in all I suppose OG has looked at it and seen that a very disciplined system will get you more points by being hard to breakdown

 

[rikz]

Seems you struggle about most things, the football at the moment is the most boring, negative, uninspiring, anti-skill Rubbish, i have seen, makes Roy look like Pep, Obviously it is only my Opinion, Old Boy

What are you even on about, anti skill rubbish ???? In almost every game we have atleast 5 shots on target and atleast 10 shots, what you meant the same Roy who won about 3 games without having a shot on target.

 

[NEILLO]

90% of HOLers are Lemmings, and will follow anything they are told, and will follow OG off the cliff with his formation, where even the thickest of HOLers, and there is a lot to choose from, Can see that 4-2-3-1 is the best formation for the players available.

See what I mean about your disrespectful posts ? 🤣

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

What are you even on about, anti skill rubbish ???? In almost every game we have atleast 5 shots on target and atleast 10 shots, what you meant the same Roy who won about 3 games without having a shot on target.

Lemming