Glasner Out

[PatrickA]

Nketiah, Pino, Devenny, Kamada, Johnson.
What do they have in common?
They are all players who have not been able ‘to crack’ the number 10 position in Glasner’s system.
The jury is out on whether Guessand will join them.
Only Sarr convinces in the role.

Clyne, Devenny, Sosa, Johnson.
What do they have in common?
They are all players who have not been able to crack the RWB position in Glasner’s system.
Only Munoz convinces in the role.

Don’t you think Glasner would have learnt something by now?

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Nketiah, Pino, Devenny, Kamada, Johnson.
What do they have in common?
They are all players who have not been able ‘to crack’ the number 10 position in Glasner’s system.
The jury is out on whether Guessand will join them.
Only Sarr convinces in the role.

Clyne, Devenny, Sosa, Johnson.
What do they have in common?
They are all players who have not been able to crack the RWB position in Glasner’s system.
Only Munoz convinces in the role.

Don’t you think Glasner would have learnt something by now?

You would have thought he would have thought of a lot of things by now, good post Patrick

 

[MrRobbo]

I cant say whom. But I was speaking to a guy yesterday that works with the players and at the training ground.

Said that Glasners staff are all moping around, stinking the place out. All feel like the opportunity to get a ManU level move is now over. And even worse that Glasner may get a Klopp like role (negating hte need for all his hareem).

All the other non-Glasner staff cant wait for the season to be over

 

[JessieJ]

Yeah I agree with the points that you've made. It feels to me like the board has bought for the next manager, as opposed to investing in Glasner's squad and system - which might be why it's all disjointed at the moment.

The change in formation discussion - Glasner is very precise in terms of patterns of play and defensive cover for his system to work. When we don't have the ball, the entire team is built to cluster the midfield and force the opposition out wide. Playing 3 at the back gives sufficient cover when it comes to defending crosses and balls into the box as we cover a larger area of the penalty area, providing more bodies. Defensively, we are fantastic. We don't concede a lot of goals and we're also not losing many games.

The problem is when we have the ball and all the issues you raised come to fruition. If you're a manager who's last chance to give Palace something is a cup competition then not losing games is the highest priority. Unfortunate for us fans but if we want the cup glory, then I'm afraid the current system is probably the best one for us - even if we are all asleep by the time we get to Leipzig!

You might have a point but on the other hand wouldn't that mean that there was/is a plan and that somebody was already signed and sealed? Such a situation would be a positive, avoiding the nedd for weeks of media speculation at season close but without having any evidence to the contrary, I rather doubt that given past experience.

 

[cryrst]

I cant say whom. But I was speaking to a guy yesterday that works with the players and at the training ground.

Said that Glasners staff are all moping around, stinking the place out. All feel like the opportunity to get a ManU level move is now over. And even worse that Glasner may get a Klopp like role (negating hte need for all his hareem).

All the other non-Glasner staff cant wait for the season to be over

Probably because if OG gets the push they won’t and get no dough if they leave.

 

[Eaglecoops]

I cant say whom. But I was speaking to a guy yesterday that works with the players and at the training ground.

Said that Glasners staff are all moping around, stinking the place out. All feel like the opportunity to get a ManU level move is now over. And even worse that Glasner may get a Klopp like role (negating hte need for all his hareem).

All the other non-Glasner staff cant wait for the season to be over

This does not surprise me in the slightest and the only real reason I can see for Parish keeping him on (because he will without doubt know the same things you have just mentioned) is to teach Glasner that he is in charge and to stop him dictating his own terms on leaving.

May sound a bit off beat but I reckon Parish likes to remain in control and won’t have liked what Glasner did which is why we are where we are on the training field. I’ll admit there are probably other reasons why he hasn’t pulled the trigger immediately not the least of which is likely to be the current availability of our next manager.

I don’t subscribe to the idea that Glasner is the only person capable of keeping us up and having a chance of winning the Conference because the way we are playing is so bad that virtually anyone else in a coaching capacity at Palace could take over and do no worse.

 

[SnapperKain]

You might have a point but on the other hand wouldn't that mean that there was/is a plan and that somebody was already signed and sealed? Such a situation would be a positive, avoiding the nedd for weeks of media speculation at season close but without having any evidence to the contrary, I rather doubt that given past experience.

Yeah but didn't we do that when we bought Glasner in? Pretty sure Munoz and Wharton were recruited with Glasner in mind, but Roy was manager? We only brough Glasner in earlier because Roy was in hospital a couple of times, as he wasn't due to start till the end of the season. Perhaps the next manager isn't availble till then or wants to keep the noise out of it all while Glasner is still in charge?

 

[Eagle1978]

I still contend that the club should have got rid as soon as it was certain Glasner had no intention to stay, as it would be painfully obvious that the manager had ceased to really care.

 

[rollercoaster]

I still contend that the club should have got rid as soon as it was certain Glasner had no intention to stay, as it would be painfully obvious that the manager had ceased to really care.

But according to Glasner he told the board at the start of the season that he would not sign a new contract so should we have got rid of him then? I'm really hopeful is the reason he is still in charge is because we have a new manager sorted who will not be available until the end of the season. Now I know this level of planning has never happened in the 60 years I have supported Palace but I live in hope ("will he never learn").

 

[elgin eeagle]

I cant say whom. But I was speaking to a guy yesterday that works with the players and at the training ground.

Said that Glasners staff are all moping around, stinking the place out. All feel like the opportunity to get a ManU level move is now over. And even worse that Glasner may get a Klopp like role (negating hte need for all his hareem).

All the other non-Glasner staff cant wait for the season to be over

Really disappointing but not altogether surprising if true. They would have thought they were in line for a share of his pay off and a few months off before starting a new job with him somewhere else. Parish called their bluff but would have hoped they would remain at full motivation as Glasner needs to prove to other clubs he is not a busted flush without key players for his system. Them, not so much.

 

[Eaglecoops]

But according to Glasner he told the board at the start of the season that he would not sign a new contract so should we have got rid of him then? I'm really hopeful is the reason he is still in charge is because we have a new manager sorted who will not be available until the end of the season. Now I know this level of planning has never happened in the 60 years I have supported Palace but I live in hope ("will he never learn").

What has annoyed fans and it appears club officials alike is the manner in which he weaponised his leaving against the club as if it was all based on board decisions to sell players, ungrateful supporters, always someone else’s fault etc etc.

He’s done himself no favours with Parish forcing him to remain and the players seemingly not responding positively to the situation. As a result his recent stock has sunken into the midst of the other currently “decent unemployed” managers. I can’t see a top club outside of perhaps Germany taking him on.

As with you I believe we must have a manager lined up otherwise we wouldn’t be tolerating the crap football we are currently experiencing. Again like you however I am not sure we are capable of adopting such a forward looking plan.

 

[palace99]

But according to Glasner he told the board at the start of the season that he would not sign a new contract so should we have got rid of him then? I'm really hopeful is the reason he is still in charge is because we have a new manager sorted who will not be available until the end of the season. Now I know this level of planning has never happened in the 60 years I have supported Palace but I live in hope ("will he never learn").

Have to agree. I remember when Roy left in 2021 and it was obvious he would go many months before the end of the season Vieira came in quite late (maybe early June) and was clearly not first choice.
Ex Brentford Franks would be an obvious choice now he is out of work and perhaps a smaller club like Palace will suit him better than Spurs.
The summer would be nice timing for all parties - he'll be nicely rested and hopefully re-motivated etc.

Knowing SP he's probably lining up Dyche.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I do not believe Parish is in control of the club anymore, if he was Glasner would be gone with sacked on his record, i think some changes to the board may be on the horizon with Woody Johnson having the final say and Parish employed by the club or leaving completely, all speculation, but something isn't right.

 

[Vaibow]

I have to admit, Parish has been so quiet, publicly with this whole Glasner saga.

It's put out any fires and not given the media the comment they need... But I do wonder what really is going through parish's mind..

Personally, if it were me, I would let Glasner go Friday morning.. regardless of the result. Get Dyche in for rest of the season.

Why?

Well, we could have got rid of Glasner what, beginning of feb - results since then? 11 points out of a possible 21 - not a bad return, but it's the euro games we have to focus on. Burnley did alright under him, prem status all but confirmed, nothing to lose.

 

[Painter]

What has annoyed fans and it appears club officials alike is the manner in which he weaponised his leaving against the club as if it was all based on board decisions to sell players, ungrateful supporters, always someone else’s fault etc etc.

He’s done himself no favours with Parish forcing him to remain and the players seemingly not responding positively to the situation. As a result his recent stock has sunken into the midst of the other currently “decent unemployed” managers. I can’t see a top club outside of perhaps Germany taking him on.

As with you I believe we must have a manager lined up otherwise we wouldn’t be tolerating the crap football we are currently experiencing. Again like you however I am not sure we are capable of adopting such a forward looking plan.

Parish hasn't forced him to stay, he can leave at anytime he chooses, just as any other employee can. Glasner said he was leaving when his contract expires at the end of the season, if he leaves earlier it will be his choice and receive no serverance pay.
I guess Parish see's him as the best chance of winning the Conference League despite poor performances, he has experience of European experience or that he has brought trophies to Selhurst which no other manager has and seems to have some loyalty because of that.
In truth nobody knows what has been said between Glasner and Parish, just we know he will be gone come the summer.

 

[Caterham]

If SP has a target lined up to start in June / July - its debatable if someone like Dyche would accept a short term stint (Maybe 10 games) when its already confirmed that it ends at the end of the season, when the new guy (Person) becomes available, obviously its a completely different proposition if there is no new guy / person waiting in the wings & its possible for it to be packaged as - lets see how things go until the end of the season & then we can talk a proper contract -

The fact that OG remains in situ (for whatever reason(s)) would certainly indicate that we have someone lined up.

 

[Adrift]

I'd have got rid of him as soon as Dyche became available, assuming Dyche would have taken the job.
Some might say Dyche's football is tedious but what are we watching at the moment.
I'm entirely confident that Dyche would grind out the necessary points.

At that point he'd already effectively told the board to go feck themselves and it was hard to see where the next points were coming from. Thankfully Wolves, Spuds and Leeds all helped out by playing with 10 men.

His behaviour has dented his CV, possibly the only way to repair that is to win the Conference League and as soon as I saw the team sheet on Sunday my feeling was this was as much about beating them as it was about keeping players in condition for Thursday. Well done Leeds for making it a game with 10 men. This can be seen in that he kept the defence intact until the 80min eventually swapping out Canvot for Kamada.

 

[park the bus]

If SP has a target lined up to start in June / July - its debatable if someone like Dyche would accept a short term stint (Maybe 10 games) when its already confirmed that it ends at the end of the season, when the new guy (Person) becomes available, obviously its a completely different proposition if there is no new guy / person waiting in the wings & its possible for it to be packaged as - lets see how things go until the end of the season & then we can talk a proper contract -

The fact that OG remains in situ (for whatever reason(s)) would certainly indicate that we have someone lined up.

Yep, after a much needed break Roy is fit and firing and ready to go!

 

[blackgirl3]

I cant say whom. But I was speaking to a guy yesterday that works with the players and at the training ground.

Said that Glasners staff are all moping around, stinking the place out. All feel like the opportunity to get a ManU level move is now over. And even worse that Glasner may get a Klopp like role (negating hte need for all his hareem).

All the other non-Glasner staff cant wait for the season to be over

well they are not showing that on the pitch lol !!!.... they should have there wages stopped in a fair world

 

[Canterbury Palace]

I have to admit, Parish has been so quiet, publicly with this whole Glasner saga.

It's put out any fires and not given the media the comment they need... But I do wonder what really is going through parish's mind..

Personally, if it were me, I would let Glasner go Friday morning.. regardless of the result. Get Dyche in for rest of the season.

Why?

Well, we could have got rid of Glasner what, beginning of feb - results since then? 11 points out of a possible 21 - not a bad return, but it's the euro games we have to focus on. Burnley did alright under him, prem status all but confirmed, nothing to lose.

I would have let him go 2 months ago but we've lost 1 in 7 on paper so won't happen. The reality of that run is still poor really, failing to beat 10 man Leeds, Larnaca and Zrinski but even if we lose tonight I still don't think he'll go.

Glasner has absolutely sucked the joy out of this season and when he goes I am going to feel the same way as I did when Zaha left, fairly emotionless about someone who should have had a hero exit based on their contributions to the club.

Definitely not in favour of Dyche though. That's back to just accepting survival as our only aim.