Maybe we could put a few managers on a rotation scheme like they do graduate schemes at big companies. Do 4 months with a club and then rotate to the next one.
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Forest are less a grad scheme and more a zero hours contract
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Quite surprising to see how Angry Ollie was in that interview, months of frustration boiled over.
It doesn’t usually pay to upset angry little Austrians😅
It doesn’t usually pay to upset angry little Austrians😅
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In fact it is not true, you are right. At least when it came to Schmadtke at Wolfsburg, the problems were the same: missing and/or bad transfers. Which was discussed in public. Schmadtke is not that kind of person you would want to meet "in the ring". But, as much as I really appreciate OG, especially as a fellow Austrian, it just seems like the very, very same pattern in comparison to that, what OG delivered in the recent interview. So i can NOT take away any responsibility from OG in my mind. Sad.
Just my impression.
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That never was a good idea. But I am glad, that it was the other Austrian, who did not make it to England...
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And at least palace have already been to Poland incase Ollie had any ideas in his current state of mind 🤣
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This might have been said already, but I can't bring myself to read all the pages of rants in this thread so apologies if it has, but haven't we spent more on players since Glasner arrived than what we got from selling them?
Perhaps I'm looking at this from too simplistic a cash flow basis, but we brought in £63.8 million from sales in the summer:
and we brought in:
which is £81.5 million, so we spent £21.9 million more that what we brought in from selling players.
So what exactly is Glasner expecting here? For a club of our size and taking into account FFP, I would say that we have invested? Granted the quality of those players aren't an exact match, but that's one first team player out and five players in that could start or be on the bench. We can't replace outgoing players like for like, we simply don't have the funds to do that. Also, this is our model, we bring in young players, build them up and sell them on, there's no way he couldn't have known that! Also, in terms of supporting the squad, we also brough in Munoz, Wharton, Nketiah, Kamada and Sarr (and Esse, but he doesn't seem to like him) after Olise went. Not supported? Really?
We're also investing in a new stand and having to borrow to do that, so not like player sales are financing that?
Perhaps I'm looking at this from too simplistic a cash flow basis, but we brought in £63.8 million from sales in the summer:
- Eze - £59.6 million
- Eduoard - £3.2 million
- Ebiowei - £1 million
and we brought in:
- Benetiz - £0
- Sosa - £3 million
- Canvot - £17.5 million
- Pino - £26 million
- Johnson - £35 million
which is £81.5 million, so we spent £21.9 million more that what we brought in from selling players.
So what exactly is Glasner expecting here? For a club of our size and taking into account FFP, I would say that we have invested? Granted the quality of those players aren't an exact match, but that's one first team player out and five players in that could start or be on the bench. We can't replace outgoing players like for like, we simply don't have the funds to do that. Also, this is our model, we bring in young players, build them up and sell them on, there's no way he couldn't have known that! Also, in terms of supporting the squad, we also brough in Munoz, Wharton, Nketiah, Kamada and Sarr (and Esse, but he doesn't seem to like him) after Olise went. Not supported? Really?
We're also investing in a new stand and having to borrow to do that, so not like player sales are financing that?
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It was Steve who was getting his (substantial) hairdo done. Means Pulis was lying about being in a meeting with Steve at that exact time of day.
Does anybody else think ot would have been a good idea to have bought a centre back in to replace Guehi before selling him or is Glasner wrong about this too?
As he points out , he only knew the Guehi would be unavailable at 10.30am on Friday , and he says 'I'm sure negotiations didn't start at 10am.'
I know people dislike Glasner, but is this a reasonable way for a serious football club to operate.
And no, before anybody suggests we have Riad and Canvot, they are as adequate as replacements for Guehi as Devenny is for Munoz.
As he points out , he only knew the Guehi would be unavailable at 10.30am on Friday , and he says 'I'm sure negotiations didn't start at 10am.'
I know people dislike Glasner, but is this a reasonable way for a serious football club to operate.
And no, before anybody suggests we have Riad and Canvot, they are as adequate as replacements for Guehi as Devenny is for Munoz.
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Glasner has said it in quite a few pressers now.
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It's disingenuous when you mention Johnson in your tally as the fallout happened over summer transfers where the net spend was zero. I'm sorry but that is not good enough in a European season irrespective of the new stand - which is being financed from an external loan and was originally covered by the US investment.
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In an ideal world, yep. Who would you bring in as a replacement for Guehi?
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My first thoughts when I was watching his interview last night, was it’s a shame he couldn’t just knuckle down, get on with it and ride out the rough patch instead of spouting off like that and then walk away with his head held high in the summer.
This has definitely soured his time with us, as you say, what did he expect? he must’ve known when he took over we’re a small club in an old small ground that eventually has to sell its best players. It’s not like we’re throwing these players out of the door, they’re ambitious as well and want to move on to bigger clubs.
We all know our squad was going to struggle this season and we needed reinforcements last summer but obviously finances wouldn’t allow it and personally I trust the man who was here 15 years before and will still be here long after Ollie has gone
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Amorim said he was going in 18 months. He was out a couple of days later.
Utd have had Mourinho “that is football heritage”, Rangnick “throw it all in the bin, sell the entire team and start over”, and Amorim “I am not a head coach”. Having one live wire doesn’t seem to stop them from getting another one. Maybe they turned RR and RA into live wires tbf. Jose was always one.
José is a good example actually. We knew what we were getting with Oli from his time in Germany, as others have said repeatedly. Presumably Steve knew that then. Was it a calculation that the good times are worth the bad?
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Yes. Because he always has been.
We only have OG’s word he didn’t know Guehi was unavailable until 10.30. Even if that is true the whole world and his dog knew Guehi was off to City so OG should have been planning for life without him. It’s not ideal to lose a player the day before a match but what happens when a player gets injured or ill? I don’t buy there isn’t a plan B and if there isn’t then OG isn’t doing his job.
I’d give this all more credence if yesterday was a one off in terms of performance but it isn’t. We haven’t won in ten games. We had Guehi vs Macclesfield and we’re still second best. We’ve had Guehi through all the games we’ve been awful at set pieces from.
We are the worst team in the division right now. That’s not due to selling Guehi and the manager needs to take some responsibility for how we are performing rather than blaming everyone else.