Glasner Out

[Canterbury Palace]

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Replaced with Sarr, Johnson, Pino, Lacroix and TBC on Guehi.

It was impossible to get anyone close to as good as Olise but Sarr has been brilliant.

Lacroix is better than Anderson.

Verdict out on Sarr/Johnson replacing Eze but it's early days and we've spent over 50m on the pair.

He's just moaning at this point. We have replaced players, our issue is the squad depth not the first XI.

 

[Joseph Paxton]

You would have to view Glasner as an asset, for the next few months anyway..

He is - yesterday's outburst notwithstanding - a coach in demand and we do not know if another club has already contacted parties to see if they can sign him (Tottenham perchance?) before the end of the season and pay us some handsome compensation. Firing him obviously means we have to stump up cash,

He obviously has some stock with the players too and a new coaching team coming in, changing methods and trying to reorient our European endeavours would be a bridge too far I feel. I think he will go to Tottenham and probably sooner rather than later but it would be funny if his stock falls further in next few months because of his mercurial temperament.

 

[JHB]

You would have to view Glasner as an asset, for the next few months anyway..

He is - yesterday's outburst notwithstanding - a coach in demand and we do not know if another club has already contacted parties to see if they can sign him (Tottenham perchance?) before the end of the season and pay us some handsome compensation. Firing him obviously means we have to stump up cash,

He obviously has some stock with the players too and a new coaching team coming in, changing methods and trying to reorient our European endeavours would be a bridge too far I feel. I think he will go to Tottenham and probably sooner rather than later but it would be funny if his stock falls further in next few months because of his mercurial temperament.

If the board don’t fire him then it puts OG in a challenging position. Right now if he was fired he can point to the cup success and blame our current disastrous form on not being backed. If he stays, we get Munoz and Sarr back and results continue to be poor then even the most ardent fan of his has to conclude he’s the issue. In that scenario his chances of getting a big job are low.

Nice and easy to be in demand when you won the cup and go on an unbeaten 19 game run. Bit of a different case when you can’t compete with Macclesfield and haven’t won in ten and counting. If that becomes can’t win in 14 or 15 and we don’t get into the next stages in Europe then he looks like a busted flush.

 

[TheBigToePunt]

Replaced with Sarr, Johnson, Pino, Lacroix and TBC on Guehi.

It was impossible to get anyone close to as good as Olise but Sarr has been brilliant.

Lacroix is better than Anderson.

Verdict out on Sarr/Johnson replacing Eze but it's early days and we've spent over 50m on the pair.

He's just moaning at this point. We have replaced players, our issue is the squad depth not the first XI.

Spot on.
The big problem was always going to be that it's all but impossible to replace Olise and Eze with anything like the same level of quality, and in the case of Pino and Johnson (so far, in both cases) the replacements have struggled. That doesn't mean the club haven't tried, or haven't spent money. I wouldn't be surprised if the next manager gets a tune out of at least one of them by changing the system to suit them. Look at Carrick and Man United yesterday.

Personally I'd give credit to the club for signing both Olise and Eze, when lots of other clubs would have been aware of their potential, and also for convincing both to sign new deals and stay with us, and then finally for getting good money for both. Along the way they were a joy to watch and in Ezes case, got the winner in a cup final. Brilliant business all round.

As someone else pointed out on here, the players that left didn't want to extend their contracts with us. They thought they had achieved all they could and wanted to try higher up. EXACTLY like Glasner. Yet he's moaning about them leaving!

What a disappointment. What a big baby.

 

[Joseph Paxton]

If the board don’t fire him then it puts OG in a challenging position. Right now if he was fired he can point to the cup success and blame our current disastrous form on not being backed. If he stays, we get Munoz and Sarr back and results continue to be poor then even the most ardent fan of his has to conclude he’s the issue. In that scenario his chances of getting a big job are low.

Nice and easy to be in demand when you won the cup and go on an unbeaten 19 game run. Bit of a different case when you can’t compete with Macclesfield and haven’t won in ten and counting. If that becomes can’t win in 14 or 15 and we don’t get into the next stages in Europe then he looks like a busted flush.

He only ran his mouth off yesterday because he already has a new role lined up. You don't put yourself in the shop window by rants against your benefactors such as that.

I would suggest that getting fired would benefit his new Guvnors as they could have his services immediately at no extra cost. I hope he was warned today that he would incur conduct fines if he were to carry on with disparaging public comments.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Replaced with Sarr, Johnson, Pino, Lacroix and TBC on Guehi.

It was impossible to get anyone close to as good as Olise but Sarr has been brilliant.

Lacroix is better than Anderson.

Verdict out on Sarr/Johnson replacing Eze but it's early days and we've spent over 50m on the pair.

He's just moaning at this point. We have replaced players, our issue is the squad depth not the first XI.

The idea that we can have a squad deep enough to cope with any eventuality is unrealistic. We have cover and we have promising youngsters to bring on. Our progress is measured in decades, not in seasons. So long as we take 5 steps forward to every 4 back we are progressing.

The club isn’t managed by Glasner. The current team is. We are in a step back phase after a huge leap forward. It’s not unusual or unexpected for us. Only fools expect success to be followed by even more success for clubs our size. Glasner doesn’t understand that, or cannot accept it, so he really must go now. I cannot see how he can now motivate the team, having dismissed some as incapable, so I hope Parish is now just playing for a little time.

 

[chris123]

Is this also in the reported

"It's the worst thing you can have. The first training week since September, preparing and again, with players from the academy, we were 16 players yesterday in training, and then yesterday at 10.30 I get told everything. The set plays were ready for Marc Guehi. We trained set pieces during the week with Marc Guehi, so I think the negotiations didn't start at 10!"

From today's Sunday Times

 

[park the bus]

Spot on.
The big problem was always going to be that it's all but impossible to replace Olise and Eze with anything like the same level of quality, and in the case of Pino and Johnson (so far, in both cases) the replacements have struggled. That doesn't mean the club haven't tried, or haven't spent money. I wouldn't be surprised if the next manager gets a tune out of at least one of them by changing the system to suit them. Look at Carrick and Man United yesterday.

Personally I'd give credit to the club for signing both Olise and Eze, when lots of other clubs would have been aware of their potential, and also for convincing both to sign new deals and stay with us, and then finally for getting good money for both. Along the way they were a joy to watch and in Ezes case, got the winner in a cup final. Brilliant business all round.

As someone else pointed out on here, the players that left didn't want to extend their contracts with us. They thought they had achieved all they could and wanted to try higher up. EXACTLY like Glasner. Yet he's moaning about them leaving!

What a disappointment. What a big baby.

I think his outburst is calculated. If this was the first time he could have been cut some slack, but it seems like it's not the first time. Given that he had already given advance notice to Parish that he was leaving (and presumably an honest explanation of why), then yesterday's performance was pure theatrics. I think he is more concerned with how he appears to the outside world and to cultivate the myth that he has been hard done by, rather than having any altruistic motivation.

 

[JHB]

Is this also in the reported

"It's the worst thing you can have. The first training week since September, preparing and again, with players from the academy, we were 16 players yesterday in training, and then yesterday at 10.30 I get told everything. The set plays were ready for Marc Guehi. We trained set pieces during the week with Marc Guehi, so I think the negotiations didn't start at 10!"

From today's Sunday Times

He must have done training with Guehi in midfield, at wingback, in the number 10 role and up front. Maybe that explains why we had zero attacking intent in the second half. I mean it must be that and not that yet again we weren’t set up right given the players we have and the complete lack of any in game management

 

[timmyb1971]

Would it not be wise to give OG a week’s holiday?
Absurd workload the last four months with no let up.
Worrying turn in mood from Friday’s dignified press conference to yesterday’s outburst.
He had a brain haemorrhage 15 years ago, after all.
I’m sure I remember Pep having a week off last season.
Not as if we don’t have a big coaching team.

Apols if any of the above already stated.

 

[Part Time James]

Would it not be wise to give OG a week’s holiday?
Absurd workload the last four months with no let up.
Worrying turn in mood from Friday’s dignified press conference to yesterday’s outburst.
He had a brain haemorrhage 15 years ago, after all.
I’m sure I remember Pep having a week off last season.
Not as if we don’t have a big coaching team.

Apols if any of the above already stated.

I can recommend Haven in Weymouth. The Seaside Squad provide second to none on site entertainment, the lodges are at least a 3 out of 5 for cleanliness and it's a stone's throw from Monkey World which lived up to its name.

 

[JHB]

I can recommend Haven in Weymouth. The Seaside Squad provide second to none on site entertainment, the lodges are at least a 3 out of 5 for cleanliness and it's a stone's throw from Monkey World which lived up to its name.

Monkey World is just over the road from the National Tank Museum. Have they never seen Planet of the Apes. If the monkeys ever break out then the whole south coast is lost

 

[SnapperKain]

Is this also in the reported

"It's the worst thing you can have. The first training week since September, preparing and again, with players from the academy, we were 16 players yesterday in training, and then yesterday at 10.30 I get told everything. The set plays were ready for Marc Guehi. We trained set pieces during the week with Marc Guehi, so I think the negotiations didn't start at 10!"

From today's Sunday Times

That's farcical really isn't it? What if Guehi had injured himself in the warm up? Or suddenly come down with the flu? Would he be saying the same thing there? Nah, you'd have some sort of plan B and get on with it. So disapointing.

 

[Uphill]

Two reasons why not to sack Glasner.
1. Cost us money to pay off his contract - better spent towards Guehi replacement
2. Have we got a new manager already lined up?

However, keeping him on might be bad for an already shattered morale after Macclesfield

 

[Linford]

He did an incredible job and none of what has followed would have happened if it weren't for him

No, as a person I do not like him. No, I do not like his football philosophy. For what he did for Palace I bloody love him.

Then what happened was that he left in a way that caused the maximum damage to Crystal Palace. He was sued and lost and had to pay us millions.

I can't think of another time when a Crystal Palace manager left while attempting to wreak havoc - oh hold on - and I'm not thinking of Venables

Dowie, Bruce

 

[SnapperKain]

He only ran his mouth off yesterday because he already has a new role lined up. You don't put yourself in the shop window by rants against your benefactors such as that.

I would suggest that getting fired would benefit his new Guvnors as they could have his services immediately at no cost. I hope he was warned today that he would incur conduct finest if he were to carry on with disparaging public comments.

The conspiracy side of my brain says that Spurs had tapped him up already and losing Guehi is a good excuse to lose his s*** and get himself fired so he can leave immediatly and try and claim some kind of high ground. Spurs overjoyed as there's no compensation to pay us.

I've lost a massive amount of respect for Glasner over this, as we all knew that there was a possibility that Guehi could go in this window. This club is the size that it is and we are a club that will sell our better players if a bigger club comes in. Glasner would have known this when he joined, so not sure why he's so surprised by it all. In fact the Guehi deal shows that, Man City have an injury crisis and think "ah you know what, let's just buy Guehi, 20 mill should do it" and nothing we can do about it if Guehi wants to go (which he obviously does).

Doesn't look like we've lined anyone up yet as a replacement and Parish is to blame there, but Glasner's tantrum is just pathetic and toxic. What must the players on the bench think when he says there's no-one to come on? To say that in an interview? Tosser move that.

 

[Joseph Paxton]

I think his outburst is calculated. If this was the first time he could have been cut some slack, but it seems like it's not the first time. Given that he had already given advance notice to Parish that he was leaving (and presumably an honest explanation of why), then yesterday's performance was pure theatrics. I think he is more concerned with how he appears to the outside world and cultivate the myth that he has been hard done by rather than having any altruistic motivation.

There will be a number of Chairmen today who will be plenty miffed that Parish hasn't fired him - put it like that.

Being cynical, I'm looking at a 5 minute rant to the BBC which has been reported as being edited from over 10 mins, then he mouths the same into the Sky mic. It all looks miserably contrived. I'm hugely disappointed but we are now into a game of chess with other clubs over Herr Glasner's fortunes. I would expect Tottenham to break cover before the month is out.

 

[timmyb1971]

Monkey World is just over the road from the National Tank Museum. Have they never seen Planet of the Apes. If the monkeys ever break out then the whole south coast is lost

But the A35 and A31 are a pain in the arse.
He’d need another holiday after that.

 

[JHB]

But the A35 and A31 are a pain in the arse.
He’d need another holiday after that.

I once saw somebody get so frustrated waiting in traffic on the A31 that they drove straight across the middle of a grass and plant filled large roundabout to get off it.

 

[timmyb1971]

There will be a number of Chairmen today who will be plenty miffed that Parish hasn't fired him - put it like that.

Being cynical, I'm looking at a 5 minute rant to the BBC which has been reported as being edited from over 10 mins, then he mouths the same into the Sky mic. It all looks miserably contrived. I'm hugely disappointed but we are now into a game of chess with other clubs over Herr Glasner's fortunes. I would expect Tottenham to break cover before the month is out.

Might be easier for all concerned if the two managers swapped jobs on 4 month contracts.
We’d be a better fit than spurs for Frank.
Brennan might not be so keen though