Glasner Out

[taylors lovechild]

Glasner publicly said when he arrived that he'd told Parish he didn't come to the club if its only ambition was consolidation. True to his word, when the club failed to invest in the squad in the summer he decided they were unwilling or unable to match that ambition and he told them he would leave at the end of the season. I imagine this came after the club looked to replace Eze on the cheap. Glasner's exit would probably have ended amicably were it not for the lack of investment resulting in us ending up with only 12 fit senior players and our form plummeting. We didn't stop winning because Glasner's tactics were found out, we stopped winning because we only had one player left on the pitch who could score, and he is carrying a knee injury.

I've always backed Glasner because it's hard to argue against the success he has brought us, and all while playing pretty decent football, but I can't understand what yesterday's outburst achieves for anyone. He seems to have real issues with accepting defeat, which in some ways is probably behind his success, but right now the fans needed some calm-headedness after a turbulent 24 hours and he let us down. Given the circumstances, he has put himself in an untenable position, whether intentionally or not.

While a lot of disgruntlement will be targeted at Glasner today, the sad fact is the club have made a right hash of their transfer business this season. If you don't have much money was it really the best decision to sign two players with no experience (Uche and Canvot)? To sign a left-back who has been out of form for two years? To sign a right winger to replace a left-sided attacking midfielder? What should have been an amazing year for us has been let down by poor decisions and now we will have to try and limp over the line. If the board also decide to sell JP this month then they might want to stay away from the ground for a few months.

 

[Casual]

Not after yesterday.
An inexperienced/passionate manager is better than a qualified/uninterested one.
After the ‘no subs’ and press conference, he’s got to go.

It's not as simple

as that.

Like it or not, I think it's more disruptive to change manager at this point.

Of course, if results continue as they have been then ot becomes anoth

 

[est1905]

We really ain’t.
If West Ham keep up their points per game to the end of the season they will end up on 29 points. We are currently on 28. 2 wins and the 14 defeats for us (which will never happen) they would have to go on a ridiculous run to catch us. Also there’s 3 teams between us and them. Sh*t situation at the club at the moment , but let’s not make things up aye.
12th again probably.

Some common sense!
Some on here have descended into pant wetting hysteria! We will not be relegated. That is complete nonsense. Everyone needs to calm down, lick wounds and be patient. Key players returning, winnable games coming up. Maybe even a signing or two might come in in the next week or two. We will probably finish mid table.
In terms of the Conference League its hard to see us winning it from where we are right now but things change quickly in football. Who knows?

 

[NEILLO]

If it is indeed the case that Glasner wasn't told about Guehis impending move the day before a game then I can understand him being upset.

Upset enough, combined with losing the game, to launch into his criticism of the Board.

Deliberately or not, he has made continuing at the club untenable.

It's a shame it has to end this way. But the signs have been there since the summer.

 

[Eaglecoops]

I understand why people want to hear from Parish, but personally I hope he keeps his cards close to his chest, as usual.

Every mug running every club from Manchester United to West Ham to Spurs has taken to mistaking running a football club for politics. Everything is done in the open, it's all just food for the vultures, and only makes things worse.

Keep it in house, block out the noise, make calm decisions.

Yeh, but do it before the next match otherwise there could be bit of a scene at Selhurst next week.

 

[est1905]

It's not as simple as that.

Like it or not, I think it's more disruptive to change manager at this point.

Of course, if results continue as they have been then ot becomes anoth

Agree, if we were to bring in a new guy now it would take weeks to start playing well his way. Weeks we dont have. Whatever any of us think of OG our player love him and will play/fight for him. Thats all that matters when results are needed

 

[madcap_v2]

Glasner will be gone tomorrow, McCarthy will be manager for the Chelsea game, I can bet my mortgage on that.

Such a shame how this has all panned out. Glasner for my money will still go down as our greatest ever manager but he has to go. As frustrated he is with Parish/The Board, you deal with that in private and professionally. Publicly outing the situation is not good for morale or attracting a new manager or players, which we really need.

He's forcing an early exit and we have to give it to him.

 

[Mystic Smeg]

Glasner is the greatest thing that's ever happened to the club and imo he's right about everything he's said about the ones he didn't mention by name.
To turn on the greatest manager we've had is outrageous. FA Cup, Community Shield, Europe, which the unmentionables fkd up, and the best football I've ever seen at Palace especially when we had Ebs Marc and Michael. The squad has been decimated with injuries and even the best manager ever can't perform miracles. Ollie has every right to speak up while others keep lining their pockets.
My question would be: Glasner out or Parish out?

 

[chris123]

From the journalist Martin Samuel and worth a read as it sets out Parish's view on the problems that clubs like Palace face. The big clubs don't want to invite others in to join the party.
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For most clubs in the Prem their main income is tv money, which I thought was quite fairly divided up?

 

[Frenchaigle]

Glasner will be gone tomorrow, McCarthy will be manager for the Chelsea game, I can bet my mortgage on that.

Such a shame how this has all panned out. Glasner for my money will still go down as our greatest ever manager but he has to go. As frustrated he is with Parish/The Board, you deal with that in private and professionally. Publicly outing the situation is not good for morale or attracting a new manager or players, which we really need.

He's forcing an early exit and we have to give it to him.

Big call
Depends how much you have left to pay on your mortgage .😏

 

[mileend]

Glasner will be gone tomorrow, McCarthy will be manager for the Chelsea game, I can bet my mortgage on that.

Such a shame how this has all panned out. Glasner for my money will still go down as our greatest ever manager but he has to go. As frustrated he is with Parish/The Board, you deal with that in private and professionally. Publicly outing the situation is not good for morale or attracting a new manager or players, which we really need.

He's forcing an early exit and we have to give it to him.

How about suspended on full pay pending a club investigation into potential gross misconduct?

That would show how seriously the club take his behaviour and the damage it has done to the football club and our prospects for the rest of the year and in terms of player retention and recruitment beyond that

There should be non-disparagement clauses in his relating to conduct - they are pretty standard especially with jobs with media facing duties

I expect Parish is checking through these options with the lawyers though whether he would implement such an action would take careful thought and agreement with the majority shareholders

 

[dynamicdick]

Let's do a swapsies with Spurs for Thomas Frank.

I was thinking the same. Despite what’s happening I think he is still a good manager as showed at Brentford. Also kept his mouth shut.

 

[rikz]

It’s a sad state of affairs .
Smaller clubs uncover and polish the gems the bigger clubs might of missed out on .
It’s no problem for them as the smaller club will develop them .
Always circling they then swoop in and take apart a team that might of won the odd cup here and there .
I’ve always wondered if we had been bought by zillion airs from UAE the stadium rebuilt to Tottenhamesque proportions and becoming one of the top 6 vultures ,how this would sit with many of the fans .

Which is exactly what we do to clubs lower down the leagues and across europe who don't have the finances we have.

 

[park the bus]

Glasner is the greatest thing that's ever happened to the club and imo he's right about everything he's said about the ones he didn't mention by name.
To turn on the greatest manager we've had is outrageous. FA Cup, Community Shield, Europe, which the unmentionables fkd up, and the best football I've ever seen at Palace especially when we had Ebs Marc and Michael. The squad has been decimated with injuries and even the best manager ever can't perform miracles. Ollie has every right to speak up while others keep lining their pockets.
My question would be: Glasner out or Parish out?

If Glasner didn't have previous I could understand his outburst, but it seems he's done this before and whether he is right or wrong about signings the fact is he knew, or should have known, all about the chairman, the board, and how the club is run and operates.

 

[est1905]

For most clubs in the Prem their main income is tv money, which I thought was quite fairly divided up?

The financial rules are now weited heavier and heavier in favour of the big 6 clubs and more and more to the detriment of teams that aspire to achieve. Like Palace, Aston Villa, etc. The Brightons and the Brentfords will find out soon when it comes to clubs ous size there is a glass ceiling. Get too successful and they'll find ways to slap you down

 

[dynamicdick]

I think his outburst yesterday constitutes gross misconduct and my cynical side thinks that Glasner knows this also and was a deliberate act. I have a strong hunch that Spurs are in the mix on this.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Oh !
I do not have this facility on my phone.
Communication with some erudite souls have been on these lines !

Nokia 3310? Those were the days 🤣

 

[maddog]

Glasner is the greatest thing that's ever happened to the club and imo he's right about everything he's said about the ones he didn't mention by name.
To turn on the greatest manager we've had is outrageous. FA Cup, Community Shield, Europe, which the unmentionables fkd up, and the best football I've ever seen at Palace especially when we had Ebs Marc and Michael. The squad has been decimated with injuries and even the best manager ever can't perform miracles. Ollie has every right to speak up while others keep lining their pockets.
My question would be: Glasner out or Parish out?

No one has turned on Glasner. It’s Glasner who had turned on Palace.

After all the dreadful recent results we kept faith with him but yesterday’s outburst was unforgivable. If that’s truly where he is at in his head then we are better off without him.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

I was thinking the same. Despite what’s happening I think he is still a good manager as showed at Brentford. Also kept his mouth shut.

I was a big fan of his during his time at Brentford and would have liked to see him at Palace when Roy started to struggle. However, his first few months at Spurs have been disappointing to say the least, but I would support a move for him as I reckon he'd fit into the Palace way with more success.

 

[JHB]

Glasner publicly said when he arrived that he'd told Parish he didn't come to the club if its only ambition was consolidation. True to his word, when the club failed to invest in the squad in the summer he decided they were unwilling or unable to match that ambition and he told them he would leave at the end of the season. I imagine this came after the club looked to replace Eze on the cheap. Glasner's exit would probably have ended amicably were it not for the lack of investment resulting in us ending up with only 12 fit senior players and our form plummeting. We didn't stop winning because Glasner's tactics were found out, we stopped winning because we only had one player left on the pitch who could score, and he is carrying a knee injury.

I've always backed Glasner because it's hard to argue against the success he has brought us, and all while playing pretty decent football, but I can't understand what yesterday's outburst achieves for anyone. He seems to have real issues with accepting defeat, which in some ways is probably behind his success, but right now the fans needed some calm-headedness after a turbulent 24 hours and he let us down. Given the circumstances, he has put himself in an untenable position, whether intentionally or not.

While a lot of disgruntlement will be targeted at Glasner today, the sad fact is the club have made a right hash of their transfer business this season. If you don't have much money was it really the best decision to sign two players with no experience (Uche and Canvot)? To sign a left-back who has been out of form for two years? To sign a right winger to replace a left-sided attacking midfielder? What should have been an amazing year for us has been let down by poor decisions and now we will have to try and limp over the line. If the board also decide to sell JP this month then they might want to stay away from the ground for a few months.

We spent £26m on a Spain international. Ok he’s struggled but it’s not like we replaced Eze with a teenager from the academy. What did people expect? That we went and invested £50m on a player? That was never going to happen.

If OG said we should have had more cover at RWB and a back up for JPM then I’d agree. Continuing to raise Eze, a player who wanted to go, we got a record fee for and replaced with a player who has more international caps and more international goals than Eze is not really a great case.