Glasner Out

[Sardinero]

OG thank you for Palace's greatest year and our trophies but now its time we wish you fond a farewell.
Please leave before you are fired.

 

[kennybrowns leftfoot]

Totally agree. Just watched his interview he was clearly very angry about Guehi being sold on Friday, with justification imo, why let him train all week as he was obviously off? IMO he is spot on about the boards apparent lack of ambition, if las season was not the springboard to move on, nothing will be. Some accusing him of being rude, he was not but frustrated and angry. Yes, he has made mistakes but was he sold a lie? A distinct possibility. A fact that won’t help us recruit another manager. I wonder how many who are calling him out have, in the past, moaned about our lack of/ late activity in the transfer window? I suspect many, so perhaps he does have a point

What does it matter if Guehi goes on the Friday or the Monday? I dont get this argument. As far as I'm aware there aren't certain days players must be sold. Players being pulled out of a game as they are leaving is extremely common.

And I'm sorry but he was being rude. In my opinion when you start making decisions (no substitutions) during an actual game that are clearly a form of protest because you are sulking and not what is best for the team then that is rude and disrespectful to the players, the supporters and the Club.

 

[manwitheagletattoo]

Our greatest ever manager. I agree with 99% of what he’s said. You cannot however disrespect the club publicly like that. Very poor and unprofessional, I’m sure the powers at be at United heard it also. I’m in the camp of getting someone in new now to focus on next season. Best for both parties. Up the Palace

I totally agree with your comments, and the way Glasner has gone on and slated the board is appalling and not very professional considering this club took a big chance on him. Winning the FA Cup and C.S, the press linking him to bigger clubs home and abroad seems to have gone to his head, specially Manchester United job.

It seems these out bursts and disagreements with his employed clubs is nothing knew at Wolfsburg Glasner had the same issues and disagreements on player recruitments and investment despite a successful second season where he guided the club to a fourth-place finish and Champions League qualification.
Glasner also had a bad relationship with the Wolfenberg director of football, could that have been the same with Freedman, strange how he left at such short notice.

As for yesterdays game at Sunderland OG stated he couldn’t fault the players desire and they played with their hearts on their sleeves, but made no substitutions because we just had kids on the bench, that for Christ sake is how you breed and give confidence to these kids and find new talent, who knows one of these so called kids could have got or won us the match. No this no subs thing was another Glasner strop in my eyes.

As for Steve Parish I think he is a very hard and difficult person to work with. He has this stubborn way he wants this club run, rules on player recruitment and selling. Wants this new stand built at all costs has the final say on everything, this I believe is why this club can’t keep hold of a good manager as we have seen in the past stubborn guidelines that basically after a while wear the manager down.
Once again it does nothing for the reputation of CPFC just makes this club a laughing stock.

 

[PatrickA]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

 

[martinelliff]

Selling MG now is a calculated risk. Because of our dip in form it looks like we dont have much chance of getting in the top 5 so they are cashing in before MG goes for nothing. The timing is bad but no time would havd been good. We are a mid table team with a mid table budget, we cant pay 250k a week to keep MG, Eze, Olise or buy Gallagher, even if they wanted to stay and not play in the CL. OG thanks for the memories but he was always going to do the same and move to a CL club if he could. People need to get some perspective and be happy the club has steadily progressed (with some rocky moments). If Spam are relegated we will have been in the EPL longer than any club outside the top 7 moneyed clubs (Everton included for historic reasons). We are safe from relegation, have a realistic chance of winning the conference. Put Paddy in temporarily and then hire soneone to keep building. Its PSR that constrains us not the ambition of our billionaire owners. Lots of other clubs in the same boat.

 

[JHB]

What does it matter if Guehi goes on the Friday or the Monday? I dont get this argument. As far as I'm aware there aren't certain days players must be sold. Players being pulled out of a game as they are leaving is extremely common.

And I'm sorry but he was being rude. In my opinion when you start making decisions (no substitutions) during an actual game that are clearly a form of protest because you are sulking and not what is best for the team then that is rude and disrespectful to the players, the supporters and the Club.

This is right. OG is just trying to create a narrative to justify himself and engineer getting fired.

Complaining about a player getting sold who he’s known for several days was going is silly. Just like complaining about Eze getting sold is daft when the player wanted to go and we got over £60m for him.

As somebody else has said the words used in the post match interview and the press conference were vey similar suggesting he had a script so not the emotional outburst some are characterising it as. This looks premeditated and like somebody playing games at the team’s expense. We can’t have that in our club.

 

[martinelliff]

It is very true that the squad is now without a game winning talisman. All of the marquee players have gone (Wharton apart).

For my money, I'd forget the Conference League - it's not worth much anyway, and just concentrate on staying in the Prem, which is the only thing that actually matters now. It is fortunate that there is still a gap between the bottom three and the rest.

We only need about 7 points from 16 games. We are safe.

 

[Team of the (20)80s]

Surely coaches like Ollie are perfect for a club like ours because he improves players and there is inherent value added when it comes to say farewell when they move on.

If he were perfect he would have done that for Nketiah, Esse, Uche, Rak-Sakyi, Franca etc.

Glasner is clearly a very successful coach, and those players, and the people who decided to sign them are not perfect, but neither is Ollie Glasner.

 

[JHB]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

His ‘crime’ is failing to win in ten games, losing 5 out of 7 in the League, failing to qualify from the Europa League automatically despite playing the might of Finland and Cyprus’ not best teams and taking us to our worst ever defeat in the FA Cup. That would put any manager under pressure.

He then compounds this by publicly announcing he is off the day before a match and the having hypocrisy to blame the board for destabilising the team by selling a player everyone already knew was leaving in a manner that means the board cannot respond. Oh and he also makes some form of protest by refusing to make any subs or tactical changes when we are losing a game by one goal. As a coupe de gras he tells all the squad players they are rubbish and he won’t play them.

 

[Dr. Eagle]

I totally agree with your comments, and the way Glasner has gone on and slated the board is appalling and not very professional considering this club took a big chance on him. Winning the FA Cup and C.S, the press linking him to bigger clubs home and abroad seems to have gone to his head, specially Manchester United job.

It seems these out bursts and disagreements with his employed clubs is nothing knew at Wolfsburg Glasner had the same issues and disagreements on player recruitments and investment despite a successful second season where he guided the club to a fourth-place finish and Champions League qualification.
Glasner also had a bad relationship with the Wolfenberg director of football, could that have been the same with Freedman, strange how he left at such short notice.

As for yesterdays game at Sunderland OG stated he couldn’t fault the players desire and they played with their hearts on their sleeves, but made no substitutions because we just had kids on the bench, that for Christ sake is how you breed and give confidence to these kids and find new talent, who knows one of these so called kids could have got or won us the match. No this no subs thing was another Glasner strop in my eyes.

As for Steve Parish I think he is a very hard and difficult person to work with. He has this stubborn way he wants this club run, rules on player recruitment and selling. Wants this new stand built at all costs has the final say on everything, this I believe is why this club can’t keep hold of a good manager as we have seen in the past stubborn guidelines that basically after a while wear the manager down.
Once again it does nothing for the reputation of CPFC just makes this club a laughing stock.

Agree with all of this. For a man who comes across as so measured and analytical, OG really looked frayed at the edges yesterday - rising hackles at a pretty sensible question from Vicky Sparks, trembling voice, suicide-note references to the board, etc. Not good. But I think we saw a case of the train driver wanting to run the railway, and I don't think our Thin Controller can allow that to happen. When Pulis got smart about a similar issue a dozen years ago, he was shunted off with little ceremony and not many regrets from the fans.
Obviously OG is forever a Palace legend (as for best manager, I think that remains Stevie), and those days last spring are immortal. But I don't think he's shown much wisdom for months now. Coming on the media and constantly fretting about a small squad, injuries, AFCON, etc., might reflect some of the truth, but it surely just spread the jitters in the squad, conditioning them to think they were onto a hiding every time they hit the pitch. And when a team could do with a confidence lift with a win against a small team, how about putting on the first-team players so they can administer a feel-good trouncing, and not give the opposition a lift with the feeling they could maybe do something against a line-up that had never played together before? Would the team have been so dismal against Leeds if they'd had a good night against KuPS?
I can't see him staying. What a shame it's all fallen to bits so soon. I can't help thinking our woes began when that Brighton stripe appeared on the first-team shirt....

 

[PatrickA]

His ‘crime’ is failing to win in ten games, losing 5 out of 7 in the League, failing to qualify from the Europa League automatically despite playing the might of Finland and Cyprus’ not best teams and taking us to our worst ever defeat in the FA Cup. That would put any manager under pressure.

He then compounds this by publicly announcing he is off the day before a match and the having hypocrisy to blame the board for destabilising the team by selling a player everyone already knew was leaving in a manner that means the board cannot respond. Oh and he also makes some form of protest by refusing to make any subs or tactical changes when we are losing a game by one goal. As a coupe de gras he tells all the squad players they are rubbish and he won’t play them.

You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?

 

[eritheagle]

You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?

maybe not but he is quoted as saying he was/is happy with it!!

 

[Paul Salvage]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

Do you honestly think the club is not being run properly?
The problem with success is you open yourself up for the vultures. Look what happened to the Leicester team that won the league. Clubs of our size get ripped apart in a world where it is impossible to compete on a financial basis.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

 

[Davepalace707]

You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?

Two months ago he hadn’t overseen the most shambolic and embarrassing defeat I can remember, announced he was going to leave and then slagged off the Board and belittled most of the squad players - all within one week

 

[PatrickA]

Do you honestly think the club is not being run properly?
The problem with success is you open yourself up for the vultures. Look what happened to the Leicester team that won the league. Clubs of our size get ripped apart in a world where it is impossible to compete on a financial basis.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

I think Parish has done a great job overall and the progress of the club under him is there for all to see and surely beyond dispute.
I'm also content with him being a diehard fan and a safe pair of hands.

Notwithstanding this, I believe the club has demonstrated significant weakness in recent transfer windows, perhaps componded by the absence of Freedman so I can see where Glasner is coming from as he hasn't been given the adequate resources an ambitious manager seeks.
Let's face it , even mild mannered gentleman Hodgson on occasions raised an eyebrow about our transfer policy.

 

[chris123]

Let's take out the FA cup win.

We still had a record breaking season with our highest points total, off the back of selling Olise.

So - let's push on from that. You keep hold of the team and add one or two.

Adding Pinot and Canvot makes sense, in that respect.

I would have also signed a striker.

So, let's just look at the squad, with Eze staying and adding Pinot, Canvot and a striker.

That alone is a steady addition - Pinot gives options, striker gives options. Canvot can relieve a tired defence.

Now, add in AFCON - Sarr going, can pinot cover - that's the idea.

Munoz stays fit, Kamada stays fit.

That's where it lies with me... Parish takes a punt that these injuries don't happen.. and as it has shown, what we think on paper is good enough, these variables do indeed happen.

Olise is the best bit of business Bayern have done in years, unplayable yesterday from the bench too.

 

[JHB]

You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?

It is a shame his reputation has been tarnished. He delivered us the FA Cup and some brilliant football. It’s doubly a shame that his reputation is being damaged by the way he’s conducting himself. I always liked his style up to now but attacking the club in public is a bad way to go.

I also agree the squad should have been strengthened more in the summer. For me the two gaps are another striker and RWB. Admittedly not easy to find but we should have tried to address those areas. I don’t think it would have made the blindest bit of difference to whether OG stayed or not. Leaving after two seasons was always his plan.

However, it can be simultaneously true that the squad is light but results aren’t good enough and OG’s conduct isn’t acceptable.

 

[Eaglecoops]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

Fickle no, loyal to our club yes. Players, managers, owners move through the club, supporters don’t so we are totally within our rights to call out shitty behaviour. We already know our transfer business isn’t great, it’s not news to us, in fact we’ve probably only had a couple of decent windowsin the last 5 years.

What Glasner has done is totally unprofessional and despite his undoubted coaching abilities, if I was an owner looking to perhaps bring him in, his behaviour would be a massive red flag.

Glasner needs to read the room before he takes a job, do his own due diligence and if the clubs ambition doesn’t match his own then don’t take the job to start with.

Thanks for the memories Olly but you have soured your legacy with our club massively.

 

[Hannes]

Notwithstanding this, I believe the club has demonstrated significant weakness in recent transfer windows, perhaps componded by the absence of Freedman so I can see where Glasner is coming from as he hasn't been given the adequate resources an ambitious manager seeks.
Let's face it , even mild mannered gentleman Hodgson on occasions raised an eyebrow about our transfer policy.

I remember that he once said, that he didn't watch the end of the window on deadline day, because he was already in bed. So maybe he didn't. 😉

 

[Spindle]

You make some valid points about his recent record and his petulance.

My point related to the fact he's gone from being viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst person in the world in two short months which seems a tad excessive.

And standing back from the situation, do you genuinely believe the squad he has been given is fit for purpose over a 60 plus game season?

Pulis. Do we like him?