Glasner Out

[Frickin Saweet]

Actually , they will be well aware of the situation in managing a team like palace in the EPL and there will be lots putting their hands up for the job .

They know the limitations of FFP and will see the gradual improvement in palace since SP took over . We may even get someone who sees us as a long term project , the same way that Steve Parish does .

That’s what I want .

No ambitious manager who wants to ply his trade at the top level will want to join us in that case. Only someone who wants a steady wage, doing enough not to get the sack. That means boring survival football and no ambition when we get to a certain points tally each season. No thanks.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Agreed... any sensible manager out there would think:

"oh yes that is going to be a good career move... even if you win the club's only ever trophy they don't give you the players you need to build on that success and in fact will sell your best players for peanuts"

I don’t think so. Sensible managers know clubs can only spend what they have and what they are allowed to. We haven’t sold for peanuts. We have sold at release clause levels and to stop getting nothing a few months later. That’s sound financial management. Not pie in the sky dreamland where boundless resources are available to buy world class players to sit on the bench for a club like ours.

 

[DenTyler]

The morning after...

I have now watched both the sky and bbc press conference.

I think he needs to go of that we are all in agreement now, simply because we are in serious danger of a relegation battle if he doesn't.

However, he was not wrong in what he said. Let's look at all the facts. He comes in and he is right, the club sold the 4 best players. To be fair I think the one that meant he was leaving was Eze. Anderson was a too good deal to turn down and we got incredibly lucky with Max being a perfect fit when he came in to fill the void. Olise, nothing we could do about it, that boy (like our Captain) deserves bigger and better than unfortunately we can offer.
The Captain, was never EVER going to stay but what a player and leaves the club as a Legend.

Eze. This is the one. How it happened and what has happened to him at Arsenal. He was our Zaha like talisman. Could get us or make a goal out of nothing. Think where we would be if he had stayed.

As Glasner said, we got very very lucky with the players last year, no real injuries and everything that could go right went right, unlike this last couple of months where if it could go wrong it did.

I still think if Glasner told SP in October, he is a liar and should just have gone then. It's like knowing you are leaving your wife but have to live in the house for the sake of the kids... f*** that. Move on.

But if you agree or not Glasner was right. He has had the carpet well and truly pulled out from under him. A bit of investment in June and this could all look so different.

I know we need the stadium and I totally get that SP has Palace in his heart but it is a shame how this has played out. Not wasted mind you, nothing will take away May 17th!

 

[park the bus]

Weeks ago I wrote that the wheels were coming off the cart. On the surface it didn't look too bad, our league position was reasonable, and we were in Europe, but the signs were there, the lack of goals, the growing injury list, the lack of cover / weak bench, the same tactics over and over never working, then the poor Conference results and key players looking shattered and a manager not having any idea of how to mix it up and change it. Step by step small increments that led to Macclesfield, Glasner's announcement and later diatribe.
When we were around 6th and our form was poor I mentioned that there were 3 games between us and 15th - well we are more or less there now, the spiral is downward. Our form took a turn for the worse soon after Glasner told Parish he was leaving, a remarkable coincidence.
Our form is relegation material unless the rot is stopped and after yesterday Parish needs to act immediately.
It's amazing how something can implode so quickly, and although the signs were there never in a million years did I think we would witness what happened yesterday.

 

[Steveoxon]

The morning after...

I have now watched both the sky and bbc press conference.

I think he needs to go of that we are all in agreement now, simply because we are in serious danger of a relegation battle if he doesn't.

However, he was not wrong in what he said. Let's look at all the facts. He comes in and he is right, the club sold the 4 best players. To be fair I think the one that meant he was leaving was Eze. Anderson was a too good deal to turn down and we got incredibly lucky with Max being a perfect fit when he came in to fill the void. Olise, nothing we could do about it, that boy (like our Captain) deserves bigger and better than unfortunately we can offer.
The Captain, was never EVER going to stay but what a player and leaves the club as a Legend.

Eze. This is the one. How it happened and what has happened to him at Arsenal. He was our Zaha like talisman. Could get us or make a goal out of nothing. Think where we would be if he had stayed.

As Glasner said, we got very very lucky with the players last year, no real injuries and everything that could go right went right, unlike this last couple of months where if it could go wrong it did.

I still think if Glasner told SP in October, he is a liar and should just have gone then. It's like knowing you are leaving your wife but have to live in the house for the sake of the kids... f*** that. Move on.

But if you agree or not Glasner was right. He has had the carpet well and truly pulled out from under him. A bit of investment in June and this could all look so different.

I know we need the stadium and I totally get that SP has Palace in his heart but it is a shame how this has played out. Not wasted mind you, nothing will take away May 17th!

I don't agree because Glasner must have known how the club operates. Even if you're right I think this situation would have arisen at some point when Glasner got frustrated or bored. Seems now to be the way he operates. As soon as the going gets tough, usually after a couple of years, he manufactures an exit with scant regard for the club he's leaving.

 

[eritheagle]

He is playing one big game at the moment.

the fact that he repeated his outburst (straight after the game) near word for word when he was sat down in front of the press showed how much he'd thought about it and how much it's all about him.

I wouldn't be surprised if players have had enough of him too!!

Ireola at b'mouth has lost his goalkeeper, entire defence and star attacker, not been in great form and is out of contract himself in the summer but no one hears him complaining or causing problems.

 

[Spiderman]

I’d love to know PE, as there is part of me thinking this must be considered a possibility.

I’d imagine a scenario whereby Glasner was promised the world if he got us into Europe and perhaps doing that via winning a trophy (He won 2) was not anyone’s expectation.

Therefore, having so dramatically overachieved, Glasner was expecting a hell of a lot more support than he got.

This would explain a lot.

Totally agree. Just watched his interview he was clearly very angry about Guehi being sold on Friday, with justification imo, why let him train all week as he was obviously off? IMO he is spot on about the boards apparent lack of ambition, if las season was not the springboard to move on, nothing will be. Some accusing him of being rude, he was not but frustrated and angry. Yes, he has made mistakes but was he sold a lie? A distinct possibility. A fact that won’t help us recruit another manager. I wonder how many who are calling him out have, in the past, moaned about our lack of/ late activity in the transfer window? I suspect many, so perhaps he does have a point

 

[kevlee]

SP needs to accelerate the planning.
Paddy should take over with a single goal of staying up.
The season is over apart from that single aim.
For next season, it won’t be a top level manager. It will be an English or now English based continental, journeyman who will toe the Parrish line and aim for survival.
Mateta and Kamada should be sold for scrap and we start again, but that starting point is really going back to where we were under Roy 5/6 years ago. He had Zaha, Olise and Eze and managed 12th place finishes. The new guy will have no one so talented, no rainmaker. It will be a tough gig.

 

[orpingtoneagle]

I don't agree because Glasner must have known how the club operates. Even if you're right I think this situation would have arisen at some point when Glasner got frustrated or bored. Seems now to be the way he operates. As soon as the going gets tough, usually after a couple of years, he manufactures an exit with scant regard for the club he's leaving.

Ok he might have accepted that the club model was to buy younger talent,develop it and move on but if we take the first two big departures Anderssen and Olise we replaced them with two good players. We sold Eze and bought Pino who may one day be as good but selling the Captain while it makes financial sense makes no footballing sense right now.

Clearly it is not Ollie pulling the strings off field and he is now tha scapegoat for basically telling it how it is.

But then at the same time his rigid tactical style has been found out and his (alleged) desire to not extend the squad has left us woefully short after injuries.

With everything that has happened this week I see no way he can carry on so maybe it's time to say thanks for the best memories of my long time supporting this club and please don't go to Man U as you will just get sacked. (But I now fear he might end up at Spurs at this rate.)

 

[park the bus]

Glasner's actions at Palace and elsewhere reveal him to be a narcissistic snake in the grass. If he has another role lined up that particular chairman might want to take note.

 

[Frenchaigle]

Has he left yet ?

 

[JHB]

Has he left yet ?

No. He’s still making his way back from the North East. According to OG he was promised a business class flight but hasn’t been backed by our admin team and is shocked to be on a coach. Not his fault for driving the coach the wrong way up the A1

 

[Eagle1978]

SP needs to accelerate the planning.
Paddy should take over with a single goal of staying up.
The season is over apart from that single aim.
For next season, it won’t be a top level manager. It will be an English or now English based continental, journeyman who will toe the Parrish line and aim for survival.
Mateta and Kamada should be sold for scrap and we start again, but that starting point is really going back to where we were under Roy 5/6 years ago. He had Zaha, Olise and Eze and managed 12th place finishes. The new guy will have no one so talented, no rainmaker. It will be a tough gig.

It is very true that the squad is now without a game winning talisman. All of the marquee players have gone (Wharton apart).

For my money, I'd forget the Conference League - it's not worth much anyway, and just concentrate on staying in the Prem, which is the only thing that actually matters now. It is fortunate that there is still a gap between the bottom three and the rest.

 

[Sardinero]

OG thank you for Palace's greatest year and our trophies but now its time we wish you fond a farewell.
Please leave before you are fired.

 

[kennybrowns leftfoot]

Totally agree. Just watched his interview he was clearly very angry about Guehi being sold on Friday, with justification imo, why let him train all week as he was obviously off? IMO he is spot on about the boards apparent lack of ambition, if las season was not the springboard to move on, nothing will be. Some accusing him of being rude, he was not but frustrated and angry. Yes, he has made mistakes but was he sold a lie? A distinct possibility. A fact that won’t help us recruit another manager. I wonder how many who are calling him out have, in the past, moaned about our lack of/ late activity in the transfer window? I suspect many, so perhaps he does have a point

What does it matter if Guehi goes on the Friday or the Monday? I dont get this argument. As far as I'm aware there aren't certain days players must be sold. Players being pulled out of a game as they are leaving is extremely common.

And I'm sorry but he was being rude. In my opinion when you start making decisions (no substitutions) during an actual game that are clearly a form of protest because you are sulking and not what is best for the team then that is rude and disrespectful to the players, the supporters and the Club.

 

[PatrickA]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

 

[martinelliff]

Selling MG now is a calculated risk. Because of our dip in form it looks like we dont have much chance of getting in the top 5 so they are cashing in before MG goes for nothing. The timing is bad but no time would havd been good. We are a mid table team with a mid table budget, we cant pay 250k a week to keep MG, Eze, Olise or buy Gallagher, even if they wanted to stay and not play in the CL. OG thanks for the memories but he was always going to do the same and move to a CL club if he could. People need to get some perspective and be happy the club has steadily progressed (with some rocky moments). If Spam are relegated we will have been in the EPL longer than any club outside the top 7 moneyed clubs (Everton included for historic reasons). We are safe from relegation, have a realistic chance of winning the conference. Put Paddy in temporarily and then hire soneone to keep building. Its PSR that constrains us not the ambition of our billionaire owners. Lots of other clubs in the same boat.

 

[JHB]

What does it matter if Guehi goes on the Friday or the Monday? I dont get this argument. As far as I'm aware there aren't certain days players must be sold. Players being pulled out of a game as they are leaving is extremely common.

And I'm sorry but he was being rude. In my opinion when you start making decisions (no substitutions) during an actual game that are clearly a form of protest because you are sulking and not what is best for the team then that is rude and disrespectful to the players, the supporters and the Club.

This is right. OG is just trying to create a narrative to justify himself and engineer getting fired.

Complaining about a player getting sold who he’s known for several days was going is silly. Just like complaining about Eze getting sold is daft when the player wanted to go and we got over £60m for him.

As somebody else has said the words used in the post match interview and the press conference were vey similar suggesting he had a script so not the emotional outburst some are characterising it as. This looks premeditated and like somebody playing games at the team’s expense. We can’t have that in our club.

 

[martinelliff]

It is very true that the squad is now without a game winning talisman. All of the marquee players have gone (Wharton apart).

For my money, I'd forget the Conference League - it's not worth much anyway, and just concentrate on staying in the Prem, which is the only thing that actually matters now. It is fortunate that there is still a gap between the bottom three and the rest.

We only need about 7 points from 16 games. We are safe.

 

[JHB]

What a fickle lot we are.

It's but two months ago Glasner was being acclaimed on here as the greatest manager in our history, the only major trophy winner, suggestions that he could take us into the top 5,and prople on here were pleading with Parish to secure Glasner on a long term deal.

He's now like a combination of Andrew Windsor and Meghan , loathed and despised in equal measure with people wanting him sacked by tomorrow at the latest.

His crime?
Pointing out that the club isn't being run properly.

His ‘crime’ is failing to win in ten games, losing 5 out of 7 in the League, failing to qualify from the Europa League automatically despite playing the might of Finland and Cyprus’ not best teams and taking us to our worst ever defeat in the FA Cup. That would put any manager under pressure.

He then compounds this by publicly announcing he is off the day before a match and the having hypocrisy to blame the board for destabilising the team by selling a player everyone already knew was leaving in a manner that means the board cannot respond. Oh and he also makes some form of protest by refusing to make any subs or tactical changes when we are losing a game by one goal. As a coupe de gras he tells all the squad players they are rubbish and he won’t play them.