Glasner Out

Lanzo-Ad said:
I am saying that the team before Eze left was the best team we have ever had, and 12th was a poor result for the Quality of player we had, the last signings were supposed to be good players to come in and rest the first 11, but all have been poor, and all approved by Glasner, we did win the FA cup, but I also put that down to the players, Pardew finished 10th and was 12 mins from winning the FA cup, does that make him poorer than Glasner, the buys last summer were poor, Freedman left in March, Glasner will never manage a top club for more than 6 months, IMO he has a lot of negatives about him, but time will tell, like I have said many times, for me, he is the Emperors new clothes.
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You do seem to appropriate all blame for anything bad to Glasner and anything good to the players. You are also appropriating all blame for poor signings to Glasner, but ignore signings like Lacroix and Sarr. The only two players who cost us a significant sum and who have struggled since OG arrived have been Nketiah and Esse. Pino has been ok, but is clearly still adjusting to the PL. Canvot is one for the future. The fact we lost Eze and didn't replace him properly should tell you how good a job Glasner has done not just to compete but to give us our second-highest points total for this stage of the season.

We were in the top six for accrued points for 2025 (calendar year), alongside winning the FA Cup and the Community Shield. I ask again, what more were you expecting? I liked Pardew and he provided us with some of the most exciting (albeit often terrifying) football in our modern history, but he ran out of ideas and his time came to go. His limitations have shown in his career since leaving. Glasner has been with us for two years. He is not new.
 
In simple terms Glasner is likely to look to be a better manager when he has Eze or Olise....or Munoz and Sarr....as opposed to when he has Devenny,Pino, Esse, Clyne and Nketiah.
The same would be true of any top manager.
The better the resources the better the results are likely to be, in particular if they suit the manager's methods.

I think Glasner has done an excellent job as Palace manager, but I do understand those who question his tactical flexibility.
We can all see that Canvot, Clyne, Devenny are not RWBs; that Nketiah and Devenny are not number 10s.

Yet he persists with them in those roles.

His argument could be that he hasn't other options and the players are steeped in the system through training and he doesn't want to change the system.
The counter argument is that he is playing players in positions to which they are ill suited.
 
PatrickA said:
In simple terms Glasner is likely to look to be a better manager when he has Eze or Olise....or Munoz and Sarr....as opposed to when he has Devenny,Pino, Esse, Clyne and Nketiah.
The same would be true of any top manager.
The better the resources the better the results are likely to be, in particular if they suit the manager's methods.

I think Glasner has done an excellent job as Palace manager, but I do understand those who question his tactical flexibility.
We can all see that Canvot, Clyne, Devenny are not RWBs; that Nketiah and Devenny are not number 10s.

Yet he persists with them in those roles.

His argument could be that he hasn't other options and the players are steeped in the system through training and he doesn't want to change the system.
The counter argument is that he is playing players in positions to which they are ill suited.
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Rock and hard place. Play players in rolls they are not used to and he is criticized when it fails, change the entire system to accomodate the squad he has available and he'll be heavily criticized when it fails. There simply isn't time to change the way they play. By the time he gets it to work Sarr, Kamada, Munoz, etc will be back
 
There is one point the Glasner sceptics overlook - we knew Eze was going for months prior to his departure, we knew Sarr would be at Afcon, we had a terrible start last season primarily because everything was done too near the end of the window, and Glasner was merely stating fact when he said repeatedly throughout the season the business that had to be done should be nearer to the start of the window than the close. Yet SP said recently if he sold Eze early then other clubs could inflate their asking prices for a replacement because our need is exposed - that is two-bob, we had months to line up and arrange for replacements. The shortcomings of the incoming players are down to Parish not being able to operate without a brinkmanship mentality. By saving a few million then he now has to spend many more millions to repair the damage.
 
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ex hibitionist said:
There is one point the Glasner sceptics overlook - we knew Eze was going for months prior to his departure, we knew Sarr would be at Afcon, we had a terrible start last season primarily because everything was done too near the end of the window, and Glasner was merely stating fact when he said repeatedly throughout the season the business that had to be done should be nearer to the start of the window than the close. Yet SP said recently if he sold Eze early then other clubs could inflate their asking prices for a replacement because our need is exposed - that is two-bob, we had months to line up and arrange for replacements. The shortcomings of the incoming players are down to Parish not being able to operate without a brinkmanship mentality. By saving a few million he now he now has to spend many more millions to repair the damage.
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There must be a reason why we always end up doing the majority of our business in January.
He's not daft, so there's got to be something behind it.
 
My oh my. What sort of a thread is this?
We have had the best ever year in our 120 year history. Three fabulous wins at Wembley returning back to Selhurst with 2 Trophy's (Real ones not the ZDS with all due respect). Coupled with a more than respectable League finish, seen our team play some great football and now because we have run out of steam a bit over the last couple of weeks, understandably due to the amount of games, our manager is being castigated and players called out. We are still 9th in the Premier League. This is the best time ever to be a Palace supporter. We should be right behind our brilliant manager and his squad of players who have worked there socks off to give us the best year we are ever likely to see as Palace supporters. Get real.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
I am saying that the team before Eze left was the best team we have ever had, and 12th was a poor result for the Quality of player we had, the last signings were supposed to be good players to come in and rest the first 11, but all have been poor, and all approved by Glasner, we did win the FA cup, but I also put that down to the players, Pardew finished 10th and was 12 mins from winning the FA cup, does that make him poorer than Glasner, the buys last summer were poor, Freedman left in March, Glasner will never manage a top club for more than 6 months, IMO he has a lot of negatives about him, but time will tell, like I have said many times, for me, he is the Emperors new clothes.
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God you’re desperate to be right. You’ve been desperate for a year that Glasner isn’t any good. In that time he’s won the FA Cup and Charity Shield 😂🤣😂🤣

You’re eventually correct, once he’s lost any ability we had down the right hand side of the pitch and therefore not only becoming that percentage ineffective but even more because the rest becomes predictable.
 
Personally I think this whole thread is a bit pointless and stupid. If a poster wants to just sack Glasner (I'm guessing he/she is in the minority) then why not post that up in the 'Glasner not signing a new contract?' thread? Or maybe the moderators could just merge it?
Glasner as has been said many times if factually Crystal Palace's best ever manager for all the reasons mentioned. Parish has made a few mistakes over the years but he is not a complete idiot. He is never going to sack Oliver Glasner under the terms of his current contract (a contract Parish was happy to offer at the time). I'd also argue that under the curtrent circumstances (injuries/AFCON/thin squad/etc) no one could do a better job. Glasner knows this squad's capabilities and its limitations better than anyone else.

Therefore a pointless thread started imo by a frutrated rant. Before anyone says 'so dont post on it then' I no longer intend to and would urge those that also think its stupid to do the same.
 
taylors lovechild said:
You do seem to appropriate all blame for anything bad to Glasner and anything good to the players. You are also appropriating all blame for poor signings to Glasner, but ignore signings like Lacroix and Sarr. The only two players who cost us a significant sum and who have struggled since OG arrived have been Nketiah and Esse. Pino has been ok, but is clearly still adjusting to the PL. Canvot is one for the future. The fact we lost Eze and didn't replace him properly should tell you how good a job Glasner has done not just to compete but to give us our second-highest points total for this stage of the season.

We were in the top six for accrued points for 2025 (calendar year), alongside winning the FA Cup and the Community Shield. I ask again, what more were you expecting? I liked Pardew and he provided us with some of the most exciting (albeit often terrifying) football in our modern history, but he ran out of ideas and his time came to go. His limitations have shown in his career since leaving. Glasner has been with us for two years. He is not new.
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What do you expect in the Transfer window, 5 months left of the season, no clue who is going to be manager next season, Parish isn’t going to splash the cash on the off chance OG might change his mind, a couple of loans maybe, I wish he had signed a one year extension, before the window opened, but he hasn’t, leaving everything up in the air.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
What do you expect in the Transfer window, 5 months left of the season, no clue who is going to be manager next season, Parish isn’t going to splash the cash on the off chance OG might change his mind, a couple of loans maybe, I wish he had signed a one year extension, before the window opened, but he hasn’t, leaving everything up in the air.
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It's widely accepted that Palace have had an offer accepted for Brennan Johnson for £35 million, so the club are clearly looking to spend some money early doors. My guess is that alongside this we'll move for a right back. I also wouldn't be entirely surprised if Uche went back to Getafe if we were able to bring in another striker/forward. Glasner clearly still doesn't really trust him, despite him showing a bit of spark.

Hypothetically speaking, if the club did sign a few payers and that was enough for Glasner to agree to a new deal, would you want him to stay?
 
taylors lovechild said:
It's widely accepted that Palace have had an offer accepted for Brennan Johnson for £35 million, so the club are clearly looking to spend some money early doors. My guess is that alongside this we'll move for a right back. I also wouldn't be entirely surprised if Uche went back to Getafe if we were able to bring in another striker/forward. Glasner clearly still doesn't really trust him, despite him showing a bit of spark.

Hypothetically speaking, if the club did sign a few payers and that was enough for Glasner to agree to a new deal, would you want him to stay?
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Yes, I would, he is decent, he is stubborn, if we can get the players over the line, then that is good work, and pleasing, I want Palace to succeed, however is manager.
 
Glasner is favourite to become Spurs manager the move for Brennan might be a machiavellian clearing out of the Augean stables before hand.
 
beak said:
Quite frankly i'm hoping nay praying for better than Frank but 'tis a thought. Trust Levy to have a January sale but forget about the price cut!
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On the BBS somebody pointed out to me that Levy had gone. I forgot that, so I will watch Spurs transfer policy with interest. Will it change?
 
Badger11 said:
On the BBS somebody pointed out to me that Levy had gone. I forgot that, so I will watch Spurs transfer policy with interest. Will it change?
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Daniel Levy departed a few months ago.
Peter Charrington was appointed Non-Executive Chairman in September.
Vinai Venkatesham was appointed Chief Exec in April. He has previously held executive roles at Arsenal.
 
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