Fiorentina... Florence Nightingale or Florence Nightmare ?

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At the time of writing, they are only 4 points above the drop-zone in Serie A.

Hence they may not enjoy our luxury of mid table complacency.

They are certainly a cut above some of the minnows we have played in Europe. But we can beat them if :
a) we play well and
b) the match officials behave themselves.

What are your thoughts & predictions ?
 
We need to get European ref savvy pretty quickly for these late stage knockout games.

I'm actually looking forward to these games. Thinking of getting the two home game in Fiorintina and Newcastle in the one trip in. It will be good atmosphere against the Italian team.
 
Its a great tie.

For me its Sensible Soccer, Gabriel Batistuta, Rui Costa, Edmundo.

Ok, we are 30 years on but that's where my mind goes. Plus an away tie in Tuscancy for those who can go.

Forget their current season plight. Its football royalty as far as I'm concerned concerned.

Oh and realistically I think we can progress but only if we stop hitting the bloody woodwork and finish our chances. Weirdly I think Pino may be our secret difference maker.
 
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Its a great tie.

For me its Sensible Soccer, Gabriel Batistuta, Riu Costa, Edmundo.

Ok, we are 30 years on but that's where my mind goes. Plus an away tie in Tuscancy for those who can go.

Forget their current season plight. Its football royalty as far as I'm concerned concerned.

Oh and realistically I think we can progress but only if we stop hitting the bloody woodwork and finish our chances. Weirdly I think Pino may be our secret difference maker.
And Roberto Baggio .. in his first five years, what a talent.
 
As a Fiorentina fan, really looking forward to this! We had a terrible start to the season and although capable of inconsistency between (and within) games, think it will be a close game over both legs. We're not as good a team as previous seasons and 'in transition' both on and off pitch, but still can be dangerous and have a few good individuals.

Please feel free to ask me anything Fiorentina/Florence related as happy to help.

Hoping to attend 1st leg at Selhurst. Any tips on a friendly pub for away fans or a welcoming home one?!
 
As a Fiorentina fan, really looking forward to this! We had a terrible start to the season and although capable of inconsistency between (and within) games, think it will be a close game over both legs. We're not as good a team as previous seasons and 'in transition' both on and off pitch, but still can be dangerous and have a few good individuals.

Please feel free to ask me anything Fiorentina/Florence related as happy to help.

Hoping to attend 1st leg at Selhurst. Any tips on a friendly pub for away fans or a welcoming home one?!
Florence is a wonderful city, been many times, love some of the books by Marco Vinci and the ex Squadra Mobile CSI Michele Giuttari, who opened up the Monster of Florence case in 1995, and his last novel. Death under a Tuscan sun is his opinion what happened, the "Untouchables". with Venice my two favorite city's in the world, Bologna also.
 
It’s all very well winning in the rain against a smaller, gritty club playing negative anti football but can we do it on a pleasant spring evening in Florence?
 
As a Fiorentina fan, really looking forward to this! We had a terrible start to the season and although capable of inconsistency between (and within) games, think it will be a close game over both legs. We're not as good a team as previous seasons and 'in transition' both on and off pitch, but still can be dangerous and have a few good individuals.

Please feel free to ask me anything Fiorentina/Florence related as happy to help.

Hoping to attend 1st leg at Selhurst. Any tips on a friendly pub for away fans or a welcoming home one?!
What do you put your struggles down to this season? Is it literally just the case of transitioning from one build to the next, or has something more substantial gone wrong in Fiorenza?

Also out of interest, how have you found the Commissos’ ownership overall? - I’ve been following from afar the developments of the two modern-day iterations of the New York Cosmos, and whilst they got off to a great start in the NASL, they got a lot of things wrong there, definitely a mixed bag, so I’d be interested to know how they’ve done with you guys.
 
Hoping to attend 1st leg at Selhurst. Any tips on a friendly pub for away fans or a welcoming home one?!
The Jolly Sailor on the corner of South Norwood High Street and Portland Road, is a welcoming home pub not far from the ground. We like it there, I doubt you’d have any trouble in there and it’s a decent boozer. You can play darts there if that’s your thing.

In terms of Croydon pubs in general I have to recommend the Oval Tavern. It’s not a football crowd and a bit further away but it’s absolutely lovely there. Great food, great crowd, usually some live music going on. If you are staying a couple days I’d say do the Sailor on matchday and the Oval on your other day.
 
What do you put your struggles down to this season? Is it literally just the case of transitioning from one build to the next, or has something more substantial gone wrong in Fiorenza?

Also out of interest, how have you found the Commissos’ ownership overall? - I’ve been following from afar the developments of the two modern-day iterations of the New York Cosmos, and whilst they got off to a great start in the NASL, they got a lot of things wrong there, definitely a mixed bag, so I’d be interested to know how they’ve done with you guys.
Ah, where to start! We've had so many components going wrong both on and off the pitch, starting a few years ago and the dramatically failing in the first half of this season. Now I feel we're starting a positive rebuild and results starting to improve. I'll try to summarise in the 2 parts:

On pitch: Disastrous early preparation with ex-manager Pioli - lack of fitness, pace and intensity, wrong formation, too many individuals not playing as team and half squad are fringe players not good enough, despite spending £90 million on squad. Compounded by much-criticized transfer Director, Prade, who often sold our best talents e.g. Kayode to Brentford, got rid of last seasons' better players including all our wingers (without replacing them!), pays over the odds or incoming loans of inferior players.

Pioli + Prade are sent packing but damage done and are bottom in November and big players like De Gea and Kean are underperforming compared to last season. New manager Vanoli comes in and does ok, trying to repair things - crucially fitness, formation and psychology as players looked shell-shocked from too many individual errors and not used to relegation battle. January turning point with arrival of Paratici (sporting director) from Spurs and signing wingers e.g. Solomon and confidence from our young talents e.g. Parisi, Ranieri + Fagioli.

Off pitch: American (Commisso) ownership has been a mixed bag and split opinion with fans;

Positives - financial security, reaching 3 consecutive Cup finals/Euro qualification, modern approach with off field activities e.g. shops, website, socials/media, built world-class £100 million training centre and tried to build brand new stadium (but rejected due to Italian bureaucracy!)

Negatives - perception that despite investing, the family could have spent more on players instead of infrastructure, arrogant comments implying fans are the problem, that we can't invest due to FFP and we should be grateful (when we seem to be overtaken by teams like Bologna, Atalanta and Como) and crucially a conveyor belt of inadequate players.

It's also been a terrible few years with tragedy for the club. Captain Astori's death, then the death of general manager Joe Barone two years ago, the collapse of Bove on pitch (who was sensational for us and we wish him well now at Watford) followed by the death of owner Commisso this season. His wife and son, Joseph Commisso have vowed to continue his work, but many fans want a change of ownership.

Tough times but always hopeful - Sorry for long post but a heck of a lot has happened!
 
The Jolly Sailor on the corner of South Norwood High Street and Portland Road, is a welcoming home pub not far from the ground. We like it there, I doubt you’d have any trouble in there and it’s a decent boozer. You can play darts there if that’s your thing.

In terms of Croydon pubs in general I have to recommend the Oval Tavern. It’s not a football crowd and a bit further away but it’s absolutely lovely there. Great food, great crowd, usually some live music going on. If you are staying a couple days I’d say do the Sailor on matchday and the Oval on your other day.
Indeed I often use the jolly sailor for pre & post match drinks.
 
Ah, where to start! We've had so many components going wrong both on and off the pitch, starting a few years ago and the dramatically failing in the first half of this season. Now I feel we're starting a positive rebuild and results starting to improve. I'll try to summarise in the 2 parts:

On pitch: Disastrous early preparation with ex-manager Pioli - lack of fitness, pace and intensity, wrong formation, too many individuals not playing as team and half squad are fringe players not good enough, despite spending £90 million on squad. Compounded by much-criticized transfer Director, Prade, who often sold our best talents e.g. Kayode to Brentford, got rid of last seasons' better players including all our wingers (without replacing them!), pays over the odds or incoming loans of inferior players.

Pioli + Prade are sent packing but damage done and are bottom in November and big players like De Gea and Kean are underperforming compared to last season. New manager Vanoli comes in and does ok, trying to repair things - crucially fitness, formation and psychology as players looked shell-shocked from too many individual errors and not used to relegation battle. January turning point with arrival of Paratici (sporting director) from Spurs and signing wingers e.g. Solomon and confidence from our young talents e.g. Parisi, Ranieri + Fagioli.

Off pitch: American (Commisso) ownership has been a mixed bag and split opinion with fans;

Positives - financial security, reaching 3 consecutive Cup finals/Euro qualification, modern approach with off field activities e.g. shops, website, socials/media, built world-class £100 million training centre and tried to build brand new stadium (but rejected due to Italian bureaucracy!)

Negatives - perception that despite investing, the family could have spent more on players instead of infrastructure, arrogant comments implying fans are the problem, that we can't invest due to FFP and we should be grateful (when we seem to be overtaken by teams like Bologna, Atalanta and Como) and crucially a conveyor belt of inadequate players.

It's also been a terrible few years with tragedy for the club. Captain Astori's death, then the death of general manager Joe Barone two years ago, the collapse of Bove on pitch (who was sensational for us and we wish him well now at Watford) followed by the death of owner Commisso this season. His wife and son, Joseph Commisso have vowed to continue his work, but many fans want a change of ownership.

Tough times but always hopeful - Sorry for long post but a heck of a lot has happened!
No apologies necessary, that was a good read and explained everything perfectly!

In light of all of that, I will wish your club well on the domestic front! 💜 Can’t in Europe though for obvious reasons 😂

Some of those same struggles will resonate with us this season as well. Fitness issues, being wedded to a system that at times might not fit specific games, being either allegedly or genuinely hamstrung by FFP. Luckily we haven’t had all of those bereavements, very sad in any circumstances.
 
As a Fiorentina fan, really looking forward to this! We had a terrible start to the season and although capable of inconsistency between (and within) games, think it will be a close game over both legs. We're not as good a team as previous seasons and 'in transition' both on and off pitch, but still can be dangerous and have a few good individuals.

Please feel free to ask me anything Fiorentina/Florence related as happy to help.

Hoping to attend 1st leg at Selhurst. Any tips on a friendly pub for away fans or a welcoming home one?!
You could have a few jars at Yeha Noha (Bobby's) near Norwood Junction Station.
Last November many AZ Alkmaar fans came before and after the game (They got beat 3-1) and it was fine.
 
The think it will suit us better to play against a team that will have less terror of us (lets face it, most of the teams we have played so far have just parked the bus, time wasted and dived their way to a result).
The Viola are a proud and respected club in Italy. They will not want to be seen as being overly defensive. If we nick a result at home. A 1-0 win or even a draw I fancy us to go through because they will have a real go in Tuscany in front of their own fans.

2-0 on aggregate. (Strand-Larson & Sarr)
 
The think it will suit us better to play against a team that will have less terror of us (lets face it, most of the teams we have played so far have just parked the bus, time wasted and dived their way to a result).
The Viola are a proud and respected club in Italy. They will not want to be seen as being overly defensive. If we nick a result at home. A 1-0 win or even a draw I fancy us to go through because they will have a real go in Tuscany in front of their own fans.

2-0 on aggregate. (Strand-Larson & Sarr)
If we’re getting the predictions in now, I’ll put myself down for it going all the way to penalties, with us getting through. We get through… the hard way.

It’s just who we are.

Rio Cardines with the winning penalty 😂
 
Didn't realise Tariq Lamptey is playing for them too.
Er..."playing" is quite a tenuous term! He came on for a couple of brief cameos, then started a game and played superbly before collapsing injured with no-one near him. Real shame but I worry he's made of crystal. Think he's due back in a month or so?
 

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