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EZE

Eze must frustrate Glasner so much. He has such talent but there is something lacking. Ollie has improved so many players in this team but so far not Eze. He’s never going to tackle like Hughes or indeed put in that sort of shift but he should be able to find space, and he should know when to pass and execute it. Most of the time he receives the ball with his back to goal and closely marked, with teams doubling up on him. You could argue that gives other players space but I’d like to see him show the close control and skill he had last season to break free with the ball rather than run up blind alleys or come short and pass back. His biggest asset currently is his ability on set pieces. That might be enough to keep him in our team like Ward-Prowse at Southampton but it won’t get him a move to a bigger club. I’m hoping that when Esse signs this might take some of the pressure off him and we might see the Eze we had last season.
where do you think Esse will play in Glasners formation, it will be instead of Eze or Sarr, not with them.
 
FFS, Eze doesn't defend, he is a No 10 playing in a No 11 role, he is our only player with the skill and ability to create and score like he does, its not his fault Glasner plays him out of position, best sell him for 20m and then see what he does in the No 10 role in a 4-2-3-1, when you only play 3 attacking players, there isnt many making runs, if he makes a run, nobody can pass without Wharton. outside the 3 attacking players. it was the trio of Eze, Olise and Wharton that why we jelled, sadly 2 out of 3 missing is bad.
Why dosent anyone understand this, we seem to have a problem with some small thinkers getting it, it is Eze v Glasner, different opinions, Glasner will never get the best out of Eze, perhaps he wants to do a Vieira and bench him, might be the best option for Eze to move on and play in the 10 role, similar to Smith-Rowe at Fulham, freedom to wander.
 
I’ll say again that while Eze has definitely not played to his potential this season he is our leading player in terms of assists in the EPL. So he has been one of most effective attacking players. I know stats aren’t everything but it shows we need him in this squad. For me it is right to say he can and should offer more but also that calls to drop him etc are very wide of the mark as we would be a less effective team without him even playing the way he is.
Playing where he does he should have a decent number of assists. Even on stats he’s still third most productive of our current front three though. Mateta has 6 goals and 1 assist, Sarr 4 goals and 3 assists, and Eze 2 goals and 4 assists. To be fair those ratios are probably about right given how and where each of them plays, but it highlights that while he’s doing ok the stats aren’t outstanding to the extent that dropping him would be unthinkable.
 
Why dosent anyone understand this, we seem to have a problem with some small thinkers getting it, it is Eze v Glasner, different opinions, Glasner will never get the best out of Eze, perhaps he wants to do a Vieira and bench him, might be the best option for Eze to move on and play in the 10 role, similar to Smith-Rowe at Fulham, freedom to wander.
I don't understand this framing at all - Eze has already had an incredibly productive spell under Glasner, so we don't need to speculate as to whether it's possible.
 
I don't understand this framing at all - Eze has already had an incredibly productive spell under Glasner, so we don't need to speculate as to whether it's possible.

It always seems that if a player is popular, it’s always the managers fault if he’s not performing, never the player. As you say, Eze has shown how good he can be at times under glasner, it just seems to me his lack of consistency and poor performances come from a lack of fire in his belly, he seems to drift through games sometimes. Such a shame because we know how brilliant he can be, even the other night with the assist for Guehi he gave us something
 
Playing where he does he should have a decent number of assists. Even on stats he’s still third most productive of our current front three though. Mateta has 6 goals and 1 assist, Sarr 4 goals and 3 assists, and Eze 2 goals and 4 assists. To be fair those ratios are probably about right given how and where each of them plays, but it highlights that while he’s doing ok the stats aren’t outstanding to the extent that dropping him would be unthinkable.
Yes. I think we are broadly agreeing. No player is undroppable and his performances haven’t set the world alight. I was just pointing out that he has still been roughly as effective as the other attacking players and we would probably be less effective without him. We could and should be a lot more effective if he was playing to his best.
 
Why dosent anyone understand this, we seem to have a problem with some small thinkers getting it, it is Eze v Glasner, different opinions, Glasner will never get the best out of Eze, perhaps he wants to do a Vieira and bench him, might be the best option for Eze to move on and play in the 10 role, similar to Smith-Rowe at Fulham, freedom to wander.

Cos its not true. He was ace last season.

This season he loses the ball aobut 10 times a game. Thats not tactical.

Glasner also always refers to Eze and Sarr as his 10's. They are not deployed super wide. Eze will have the licence to float inside
 
where do you think Esse will play in Glasners formation, it will be instead of Eze or Sarr, not with them.

He'll come on for one of them if we need to shake things up.

It will take him a while to get up to speed with the pace and physicality of the Prem. As well as learning the defensive requirements.

Dont see him starting any time soon
 
where do you think Esse will play in Glasners formation, it will be instead of Eze or Sarr, not with them.
Agreed. I think Esse will come in for either of them to begin with, although Sarr is capable of playing as a false nine so although unlikely, it’s not impossible we might see all 3 at some point if Mateta had to come off and Nketia wasn’t available for some reason.
 
Cos its not true. He was ace last season.

This season he loses the ball aobut 10 times a game. Thats not tactical.

Glasner also always refers to Eze and Sarr as his 10's. They are not deployed super wide. Eze will have the licence to float inside
Exactly, he's not being asked to play as an 11. He is being asked to do what he did last season when his pal Olise was the other 10. For some reason he's not gelling with Mateta and Sarr this season. They are increasingly "coming to the party" so to speak and Ebs hasn't often enough so far. However, as I said in an earlier post, Ebs says he's now fully match fit and is looking to get back to his best. That sounds promising; let's see him start to do that tomorrow at the London Stadium.
 
if there is one defining quality Eze lacks imho it is this: URGENCY. We don't want all workrate and no flair but when he first came to us he was appalling off the ball, jogging from position to position like he was in a playground, no darts, twists or change of pace to block channels and find spaces to make runs, it's why Vieira wouldn't play him. The poster who said he he needs to grow up was spot on, Hughes, Lerma, Munoz and Mateta play like men, Eze plays like a boy - nobody wants him to dilute his flair with graft, just get his bloody finger out a bit more.
Good post. I have had the impression that Eze is still in the cage on the estate where he grew up and honed his skills, turning other kids inside out for fun and being bigged up by his mates - it's a different skillset to the pressing game required by OG.
 
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Exactly, he's not being asked to play as an 11. He is being asked to do what he did last season when his pal Olise was the other 10. For some reason he's not gelling with Mateta and Sarr this season. They are increasingly "coming to the party" so to speak and Ebs hasn't often enough so far. However, as I said in an earlier post, Ebs says he's now fully match fit and is looking to get back to his best. That sounds promising; let's see him start to do that tomorrow at the London Stadium.
He is, when out of position, his job is to track back and cover Mitchell, when in position he is asked to play narrow so the "wing backs" have space, but Mitchell is not in Muñoz class as a WB, so he cuts inside or backwards, its not rocket science, 1 Eze is our most creative player, 2 he dosent have the drive in his make up that Olise has, 3 play him how he wants or sell him
 
I heard a stat the other day that Olise assisted Eze most of his goals last season? The way Eze is assisting mateta this season.

Perhaps it's part of the reason why it's taken time for Eze to get his scoring boots back?
 
He’s definitely not looked as good this season as he did the second half of last year.

Like Mateta and Wharton I think he struggled initially after a long summer on international duty. Since then I think he has missed Wharton as a creative player in the middle, I think if he comes back or Kamada’s form continues to improve it will help Eze.

Sarr and Mateta finding form takes the spotlight off of him which is good, as teams will spread their efforts more marking all 3. I also think he’ll benefit from Esse being a good option on the bench so he can have a rest.

Confident he’ll turn it around.
 
He’s definitely not looked as good this season as he did the second half of last year.

Like Mateta and Wharton I think he struggled initially after a long summer on international duty. Since then I think he has missed Wharton as a creative player in the middle, I think if he comes back or Kamada’s form continues to improve it will help Eze.

Sarr and Mateta finding form takes the spotlight off of him which is good, as teams will spread their efforts more marking all 3. I also think he’ll benefit from Esse being a good option on the bench so he can have a rest.

Confident he’ll turn it around.
Eze plays left, Esse plays right. He won't replace him
 

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