Crystal Palace vs. Newcastle match thread

viveasheagle said:
Yes he caught my eye to. Looks to have a good left foot and some pace. Last time i saw a player with similar ability was when Olise first started playing for us. Osorio possibly has not got that killer touch Olise has but i think we have a player that will be an asset going forward.
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...at least for this season. He'll be back in Denmark or sold by the Danes to another club if we get relegated.
 
thai-eagle said:
How can Sage has kept Osorio behind JSL and Nketiah in the pecking order? Our only bright spot in the game. We have now seen over and over that our defence is not up for it, but still the same set-up. Please take away the captainsbind from Adam W, play with a present midfield and I would like to see Mateta/Osorio on top. Spurs and Liverpool up next in PL, after hopefully a B-side in the Carabou Cup midweek.
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Same question why he kept Lerma out of tbe Europa squad. As for Osorio, having seen videos of his goals, I think he will do a better job upfront.
 
NEILLO said:
After the optimism from Thursday's performance, it was doubly disappointing to perform so poorly and lose so easily against a bang average Newcastle.

To me it evidenced the theory that the European teams we play against are not as strong as a typical Premier League outfit.

I came away from the game both angry and frustrated by what I had just seen. Starting with ' off the pitch '. I don't have any time for all the pre match antics, so rarely arrive until a few minutes before kick off. The quality of the stadium catering offerings, and the service provided mean that I never purchase anything - but that's been the case for many years now. Then we come to the atmosphere....it's terrible.
Like them or not, the HF made noise and gave the club an identity that set us apart. Now we are just another soulless Premier League club.

On the pitch, what really matters, is really concerning. While I think the back three of Canvot, Disasi and Richards is not a foundation for success, what's happening around them is making them look more vulnerable . Wing backs pushed too high up the pitch allowing the opposition to run in behind. A midfield that has no specialist defensive player that can sit in front of the back three and offer them a level of protection.

Up top we have a striker that can only play for an hour. His back up, you know the one we paid £50m for, is largely ineffective but is now injured anyway. Sarr looks like he's rather be doing anything but playing for the club that pays his wages. Nketiah....well, he's just marking time until his contract runs down and we sell him off at a loss.

I think what we are seeing is a sort of ' Perfect Storm '. I want Sage to succeed but I don't think he will. I've seen every Palace game this season and not once have I come away thinking we are on the right track. His tactics won't prevail in the Premier League and I highly doubt he has either the will or the ability to radically change them. I'm also one of those on here that think the transfer window flattered to deceive. Look at it this way - we effectively paid £35m for Dwight McNeill - how mad is that ?? Parish and Hobbs ( sounds like a firm of solicitors ) are directly accountable. Hobbs should be out of the door asap.

I will continue to support Sage, but as previously stated on other threads, I think that support is in vain.
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I wanted Sage to succeed but have come to the conclusion that he doesn't have the players to do so with the system he wants to play.

As you say whilst the back 3 on show isn't a foundation for success, it wasn't solely down to them on Sunday. In fact, the first goal was well worked by Newcastle - simple and direct. With most of our players drawn to our right hand side Hall, in acres of space was able to switch play to our left where, ironically. for once, Mitchell was in a defensive position but far to far away to do anything to stop their player receiving the ball and passing the ball past him to Murphy. It seemed to me Murphy had been Mitchell's man to mark but he left him so as to try and close down the player Hall passed to, leaving Canvot suddenly having to come across to mark Murphy. Unfortunately, Murphy received and crossed the ball in virtually one movement before Canvot could get the block in. I don't blame Canvot for that. It was an excellent bit of work by Murphy and luckily for them his cross proved to be inch-perfect for Osula.

As for the second goal, the less said the better, other than the midfield let the defenders down.

If Sage doesn't change tack to a system better suited to the players at his disposal, then he's doomed IMO. We need a midfield 3 so as to beef up protection for the defence.

I was very angry as well as frustrated after yesterday's match and, for the first time this season, wanted Sage out pronto. On reflection, I still believe he'll have to go for the simple reason, I don't think he'll change his system to match his resources. Even if he did change system appropriately, we'll still struggle given the overall quality of the resources at his disposal.
 
The funny thing is for the first 15 minutes of the second half Newcastle played Sage ball, they were over us like a rash winning possession high up and if we did intercept the ball we could not string more than two passes together. We just looked weak and inferior, last half hour our interplay going forward improved, we competed for the ball better, but the final pass was always a let down, which has often been the case this season. I can't see us getting anything from our next two and fear that will be it for Sage - knowing Parrish I don't think he'll go for Thomas Frank, we'd take 17th place now, I'll look at the odds and have a few quid on Dyche. And forget Europe this season, and put the kids out v Fulham and see if we can rattle Spurs to playing like they did first six games. Feel sorry for Sage, not dealt a good hand and the Thursday Sunday thing doesn't help, but he needed to pick a strong side at Besiktas after the Brighton debacle.
 
ex hibitionist said:
The funny thing is for the first 15 minutes of the second half Newcastle played Sage ball, they were over us like a rash winning possession high up and if we did intercept the ball we could not string more than two passes together. We just looked weak and inferior, last half hour our interplay going forward improved, we competed for the ball better, but the final pass was always a let down, which has often been the case this season. I can't see us getting anything from our next two and fear that will be it for Sage - knowing Parrish I don't think he'll go for Thomas Frank, we'd take 17th place now, I'll look at the odds and have a few quid on Dyche. And forget Europe this season, and put the kids out v Fulham and see if we can rattle Spurs to playing like they did first six games. Feel sorry for Sage, not dealt a good hand and the Thursday Sunday thing doesn't help, but he needed to pick a strong side at Besiktas after the Brighton debacle.
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At Brentford he lost 8 of his first 10 games in the Championship after succeeding Dean Smith.Frank 'Took up the reins' when they were 7th after 12 games, they finished that season 11th.
 
Clearly the Newcastle central defenders have no pace. Yet we didn't press them.
Clearly all their attacks came from Hall and Barnes down Khalaili's channel. Yet we never countered it.

Two things I'm blaming the manager for. Two pretty obvious things.
 
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