Crystal Palace vs Brentford match thread

[Eagleman13]

Both 1-2 I'm 'fraid.

And i missed the one we won as was ill so never seen us beat them!

My apologies, you are correct.

 

[Eagleman13]

Yes I agree with you on all points. I wouldn’t be surprised if Eze was dropped. What we don’t know is what will work to get the best from him. For some a kick up the backside is what they need. For others an arm around the shoulder.

Interesting point
Q? WHO would you play in his position?

 

[Plaistow Eagle]

The players with the skills always look worse in poor weather conditions and its been a dog of day .

Are you for real - it's the same for both teams..

Be honest other than Henderson and Esse we were awful today..!!

Then to cap it all we get one of the most ridiculous of VAR decisions - has that ever happened before - joke..!!

But we have only ourselves to blame we were woeful; Munoz - non existent, Lacroix - why even make that challenge, Guehi - poor again, Mitchell - can't pass, Lerma - so limited, Hughes - one of his worst games for ages, Eze - absolute waste of space, Sarr - did nothing, Mateta - had no service, Nketiah - how much did we actually pay for him - useless.!!

Bottom line we were awful..!!

 

[JHB]

Disappointing is how I would sum that up. 2 teams that shut each other out. Our crossing was poor as others have said. We miss fire in the middle. Wharton and one other would be useful. Gallagher and olise were winners, Chalobah helped as well. Esse bless him got caught in the moment and who can blame him but Olise would not have even celebrated. Nketiah gave a foul, kept the ball and argued with the ref, mateta ran up took the ball and gave it back to Brentford to say let’s hurray. Respect to mateta but I have to question nketiah heart and desire for the team. I still feel he plays for himself. Shame Glasner doesn’t have more options

I don’t know about Nketiah lacking heart and desire. If anything he looks like he’s over trying hence giving away silly free kicks. Today he ran around with no structure and was out of position all the time. Not through lack of effort though.

 

[JHB]

Interesting point
Q? WHO would you play in his position?

Right now looking at the squad I’d play him in his position. Even playing like he is Eze is the best and only source of creativity we have. If OG were to drop him, which I think is unlikely, I imagine he’d play Kamada

 

[Eaglecoops]

To be clear, the gist of my post was that the club brought in these players, all who perform a similar function, playing in the top half of the formation. I wasn't suggesting they replace Eze as number 10 (although I think this may well happen), more that Eze's form is poor and really how patient is OG in starting him every game? It wouldn't surprise me to see Esse get the nod.
As for Nketiah, I don't rate him, but in his defence he hardly gets a chance to settle into a game coming on for 10 minutes. Why did the club pay £25m for a sub? He's never going to displace Mateta while Mateta is at the club.

Unless we see something in the second half of the season to suggest otherwise then I’m afraid Nketiah has been a very poor buy. He does not suit the style of football that we play, same with Kamada.

 

[Painter]

Disappointing is how I would sum that up. 2 teams that shut each other out. Our crossing was poor as others have said. We miss fire in the middle. Wharton and one other would be useful. Gallagher and olise were winners, Chalobah helped as well. Esse bless him got caught in the moment and who can blame him but Olise would not have even celebrated. Nketiah gave a foul, kept the ball and argued with the ref, mateta ran up took the ball and gave it back to Brentford to say let’s hurray. Respect to mateta but I have to question nketiah heart and desire for the team. I still feel he plays for himself. Shame Glasner doesn’t have more options

Rather churlish to begrudge Esse celebrating his first Premier goal with his first touch.

 

[JHB]

Are you for real - it's the same for both teams..

Be honest other than Henderson and Esse we were awful today..!!

Then to cap it all we get one of the most ridiculous of VAR decisions - has that ever happened before - joke..!!

But we have only ourselves to blame we were woeful; Munoz - non existent, Lacroix - why even make that challenge, Guehi - poor again, Mitchell - can't pass, Lerma - so limited, Hughes - one of his worst games for ages, Eze - absolute waste of space, Sarr - did nothing, Mateta - had no service, Nketiah - how much did we actually pay for him - useless.!!

Bottom line we were awful..!!

To be fair that isn’t the first time VAR has intervened on encroachment. It’s in the rules so just don’t go in the box or the D. That was an error by Guehi. It was frustrating but VAR got it right

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Don't worry about PV, he confuses most of us at the best of times.

me confundo todo el mundo.

i always think of Brentford as Norwegian. Would love to speak Bokmal language. But forget about Nynorsk cos its different in every village.

Today , sorry to say but 'the better team won'. That is......det bedre laget vant

 

[Wilesy01]

To be fair that isn’t the first time VAR has intervened on encroachment. It’s in the rules so just don’t go in the box or the D. That was an error by Guehi. It was frustrating but VAR got it right

I take your point that MG was encroaching but he was attempting to stop Mbuemo from striking the ball who himself was in an offside position after hitting the post

On that front it feels harsh VAR wanted to penalise us without scrutinising Brentford’s play as all Mbuemo had to do to be off is show intent to play the ball.

Happy to be proved wrong though!

 

[Painter]

Are you for real - it's the same for both teams..

Be honest other than Henderson and Esse we were awful today..!!

Then to cap it all we get one of the most ridiculous of VAR decisions - has that ever happened before - joke..!!

But we have only ourselves to blame we were woeful; Munoz - non existent, Lacroix - why even make that challenge, Guehi - poor again, Mitchell - can't pass, Lerma - so limited, Hughes - one of his worst games for ages, Eze - absolute waste of space, Sarr - did nothing, Mateta - had no service, Nketiah - how much did we actually pay for him - useless.!!

Bottom line we were awful..

 

[Eagleman13]

I take your point that MG was encroaching but he was attempting to stop Mbuemo from striking the ball who himself was in an offside position after hitting the post

On that front it feels harsh VAR wanted to penalise us without scrutinising Brentford’s play as all Mbuemo had to do to be off is show intent to play the ball.

Happy to be proved wrong though!

Doesn't matter, he encroached.

 

[Eaglecoops]

To be fair that isn’t the first time VAR has intervened on encroachment. It’s in the rules so just don’t go in the box or the D. That was an error by Guehi. It was frustrating but VAR got it right

What I haven’t seen is a penalty chalked off for an encroachment by an attacking player. Granted, Guehi was about 2 foot inside the circle however one of the Brentford players was also just inside the encroachment area. So, do they get it in their favour because Guehi encroached by more? It should be like conversions in rugby and you can start moving as soon as the penalty taker starts moving. It might stop some of those ridiculous stutter step penalties as well.

 

[JHB]

I take your point that MG was encroaching but he was attempting to stop Mbuemo from striking the ball who himself was in an offside position after hitting the post

On that front it feels harsh VAR wanted to penalise us without scrutinising Brentford’s play as all Mbuemo had to do to be off is show intent to play the ball.

Happy to be proved wrong though!

My understanding is that the encroachment takes place before the penalty is taken so it then becomes irrelevant what happens afterwards. It’s like a pre-snap penalty in NFL.

 

[beak]

If there is a silver today it is that we need a few more players and the result will spur on the board to finance purchases this window.

 

[JHB]

What I haven’t seen is a penalty chalked off for an encroachment by an attacking player. Granted, Guehi was about 2 foot inside the circle however one of the Brentford players was also just inside the encroachment area. So, do they get it in their favour because Guehi encroached by more? It should be like conversions in rugby and you can start moving as soon as the penalty taker starts moving. It might stop some of those ridiculous stutter step penalties as well.

It should be I agree. I liked it when they cut out the stutter run up as well. However, right now the rules are clear and it was the right decision even though it is very annoying

 

[grumpymort]

To be fair that isn’t the first time VAR has intervened on encroachment. It’s in the rules so just don’t go in the box or the D. That was an error by Guehi. It was frustrating but VAR got it right

If you watch it again Brentford players was in there as well at the top.

This ref was iffy all game and If he had not given retake for what he did it would be the goalkeeper coming off his line.

Notice how all the broadcast shots for second pen didnt show them like the first i wonder if brentford players again did same as first one buts its fine they scored.

It's poor from Guehi anyway should know better. (showing again he has been so over hyped)

But at the end of the day Palace didn't deserve anything they was so poor it's a real issue and reminds me of the days under another manager at Home we was awful away we looked different team.

We got to stop playing this tippy tappy football at the back.

Badly need to try other systems getting sick of same system every week and not even going to get into the subs why he leaves it so late.

Two games against this team and both times we have handed them the game.

Arsenal must be laughing at use 30m for a striker who cant assist or score goals (system is all wrong for him which doesn't help poor recruitment)

 

[Dogburger]

Are you for real - it's the same for both teams..

Be honest other than Henderson and Esse we were awful today..!!

Then to cap it all we get one of the most ridiculous of VAR decisions - has that ever happened before - joke..!!

But we have only ourselves to blame we were woeful; Munoz - non existent, Lacroix - why even make that challenge, Guehi - poor again, Mitchell - can't pass, Lerma - so limited, Hughes - one of his worst games for ages, Eze - absolute waste of space, Sarr - did nothing, Mateta - had no service, Nketiah - how much did we actually pay for him - useless.!!

Bottom line we were awful..!!

As were Brentford , it was an awful game in awful conditions . They will be saying the same of their players ,the only difference is they went home with the points . We could have won that on another day ,it wouldn't have made our performance any better though would maybe have resulted in comments such as a decent result in terrible conditions rather than everyone was awful .

 

[dreamwaverider]

Disappointing is how I would sum that up. 2 teams that shut each other out. Our crossing was poor as others have said. We miss fire in the middle. Wharton and one other would be useful. Gallagher and olise were winners, Chalobah helped as well. Esse bless him got caught in the moment and who can blame him but Olise would not have even celebrated. Nketiah gave a foul, kept the ball and argued with the ref, mateta ran up took the ball and gave it back to Brentford to say let’s hurray. Respect to mateta but I have to question nketiah heart and desire for the team. I still feel he plays for himself. Shame Glasner doesn’t have more options

Yes. I saw that. He is either not on the case or as you say, playing for himself. Either does not alter the fact that he is to date a very low achiever.
Something that obviously can't be said for Esse. What a start!!

 

[Swindy]

Eze doesn’t really die for the cause, does he ?
Another day where, after a decent run of form & a chance to really think about the top half, predictably perhaps, more home points dropped again against a side who really weren’t outstanding, loads of cynicism & time wasting which a very poor referee was taken in by.
Architects of our own downfall, Guehi for the penalty retake. On another day Henderson might well have seen red for smashing it into the away fans, dead sensible that.