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Pikester said:
I find it very cringey. It's 2025.
I don't mind if they keep it to themselves and it makes them feel good - but I'd rather they praised the manager, coaching staff and fans than their faith.
I just don't get why they have to tell everyone - they're as bad as the evangelical vegans.
If I was Ollie and I'd spent hours improving a player and he then goes on telly and says it's all down to god, I'd think "Cheers mate" then walk off disconsolately and buy a new jumper to cheer myself up.
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God will be the last word most of us will utter before our last breath. Must be something in it .
 
auk said:
Does the club have an official chaplain?

Also, is there an all-faiths chapel either at the training ground or at Selhurst Park?

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with footballers bringing their religious faith into the game.

Assuming there is a God, I don't suppose the result of a football match would be of much interest to Him. And even if it was, He would just as likely have been a Man City supporter on Saturday as a Palace supporter.
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the club website isn't easily searchable about this , Obviously Rev sands was Chaplain for a while, then Chris Roe was from 2006 till 2023. I believe we have one for the Academy, but not sure if we currently have one for the senior team( unfortunately the Croydon church forum, where you would expect the info to be, currently has their website down 🙁 ) . I don't think there is a particular area for faith like a multi faith room , but the Christians in the group do pray before the match.

On Bringing their faith into the game , i think people should bring themselves in their totality to the game, in the same way with fans as with players. The big unifier is our geography , and it seems quite exclusive to require Christians or muslims or hindus or atheists to deny a part of who they are , whether as fans or as footballers.

What if the way we approach the love of club and community trains us for the way we approach the love of god, if he exists.
 
auk said:
Does the club have an official chaplain?

Also, is there an all-faiths chapel either at the training ground or at Selhurst Park?

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with footballers bringing their religious faith into the game.

Assuming there is a God, I don't suppose the result of a football match would be of much interest to Him. And even if it was, He would just as likely have been a Man City supporter on Saturday as a Palace supporter.
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Your concerns ar at least justified. Rapid Vienna has one, or better said had one. Which worked OK, until their chaplain took on another function in the board of a small Austrian lower league side and this side (SV Stripfing) provided a sensation and knocked out Rapid Vienna in this year's Cup:

Rapid pastor resigns after hostility

SK Rapid must look for a new pastor. Christoph Pelczar, who has been the pastor of the Hütteldorfer footballers for eight years, confirmed to ORF on Tuesday a report in the Niederösterreichische Nachrichten (‘NÖN’) that he had resigned from his post.

5 November 2024, 7.21 p.m.

The move was triggered by hostility from some Rapid fans following the 2-1 defeat in the round of 16 of the Uniqa ÖFB Cup against SV Stripfing/Weiden last week. Born in Poland, he is also chairman of the club that co-operates with Vienna's Austria and was also delighted with the sensation in the ORF interview. Nevertheless, he also comforted the Rapid players in his role as pastor, according to Pelczar.

A few days later, however, banners at the Bundesliga match against Sturm Graz read ‘Go with God, but go’ and other insults. ‘That was the moment for me when I realised I had to take action,’ said Pelczar when asked by ORF.

On Tuesday, the priest, who was also the mental coach of the Rapid youth team from 2007 to 2011, informed sports director Steffen Hofmann of his decision. Although he does not want to ‘go to hell’, as the fans have demanded, he wants to ‘bring inner peace to the Rapid fans and myself’, said Pelczar, who now wants to concentrate on his role as a priest and stripfing chairman.

Think of it what you want, but shortly after he had resigned everything went wrong for Rapid Vienna. Lost in the quarter-final of the Conference League after an away win in the first leg, dropped from 2nd place in the table to 5th after a long streak without a win etc.
 
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Seen players kneeling again today for a criminal who overdosed on drugs and held a pregnant woman at knife point.

That's okay but praising God and Jesus is not okay?
 
Pikester said:
I find it very cringey. It's 2025.
I don't mind if they keep it to themselves and it makes them feel good - but I'd rather they praised the manager, coaching staff and fans than their faith.
I just don't get why they have to tell everyone - they're as bad as the evangelical vegans.
If I was Ollie and I'd spent hours improving a player and he then goes on telly and says it's all down to god, I'd think "Cheers mate" then walk off disconsolately and buy a new jumper to cheer myself up.
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What does the year have to do with anything...? Ohhh you mean it's 2025, so they're meant to be proudly donning their rainbow armbands instead of acknowledging the faith that literally means everything to them. Got it.
 
Not really sure I'm delighted with us being known as God Squad FC being an edgy little atheist but the togetherness, belief and team spirit of this group was a huge factor in them becoming our most successful team ever and if if them believing God is making miracles for them gives them the belief to play like they have been for months and to keep on winning big games then so be it, crack on chaps. Fill your boots with scripture and sermons in the dressing room

I do wonder what Hughes makes of it all
 
auk said:
Does the club have an official chaplain?

Also, is there an all-faiths chapel either at the training ground or at Selhurst Park?

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with footballers bringing their religious faith into the game.

Assuming there is a God, I don't suppose the result of a football match would be of much interest to Him. And even if it was, He would just as likely have been a Man City supporter on Saturday as a Palace supporter.
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Have to admit I struggle to understand why God would choose our believers over City's (I'm sure they said a prayer or two before and during) but I haven't read the Bible since I was 16 to be fair
 
iheartcpfc said:
Not really sure I'm delighted with us being known as God Squad FC being an edgy little atheist but the togetherness, belief and team spirit of this group was a huge factor in them becoming our most successful team ever and if if them believing God is making miracles for them gives them the belief to play like they have been for months and to keep on winning big games then so be it, crack on chaps. Fill your boots with scripture and sermons in the dressing room

I do wonder what Hughes makes of it all
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I take your point but I would rather the players be into that than the usual pitfalls of drugs, women and gambling.
 
sprites said:
Pretty disrespectful referring to it as a problem. But I guess you're right and they're wrong, hey?
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I'm on holiday so I'm not posting much.

I saw this and it made me laugh.

I don't give a damn about religious sensibilities. I have my belief, like you have yours. Some want to believe in deities and all the rest of it, and that is their right.

My belief is that all religion is codswallop.

Suck it up.
 
cryrst said:
God will be the last word most of us will utter before our last breath. Must be something in it .
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Us? Whose amongst those? People in your church? Christians only or do Allah and Shiva count as well? Do "us" agree on the matter of afterlife and reward? And what about other believers or non believers like myself? And the connection to morals is doing my head in. But then I was raised strictly protestant so would need a few hours in the pub to discuss this properly. Fine of course that some of the players are believers, ok even if Marc wants to write on his Captain's armband but in the end religion is a PERSONAL thing, that not necessarily should be in the public domain and certainly should not be seen as the reason why people live a good life.
 
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Being Christian doesn't
mean you are anti other faiths.

Joel Ward.. there was a bigger hand at play

I believe faith makes teams stronger, look at the Fiji rugby team for example.

Guehi, Lacroix, Eze all have strong faith, doesn't seem to hurt
 
HKOwen said:
Being Christian doesn't
mean you are anti other faiths.

Joel Ward.. there was a bigger hand at play

I believe faith makes teams stronger, look at the Fiji rugby team for example.

Guehi, Lacroix, Eze all have strong faith, doesn't seem to hurt
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It's the other way round - rugby is the religion surely.
 
Pikester said:
I find it very cringey. It's 2025.
I don't mind if they keep it to themselves and it makes them feel good - but I'd rather they praised the manager, coaching staff and fans than their faith.
I just don't get why they have to tell everyone - they're as bad as the evangelical vegans.
If I was Ollie and I'd spent hours improving a player and he then goes on telly and says it's all down to god, I'd think "Cheers mate" then walk off disconsolately and buy a new jumper to cheer myself up.
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On the basis of the footage of them talking and laughing after the final, I would say Eze and OG seem to have as good a relationship as you could wish a manager and player to have.
On the basis of last Tuesday night and the last twelve years, it looks like Joel Ward got on extremely well with everyone at the club.
You've just expressed a fairly forthright opinion yourself...and why shouldn't you?
Mercifully we still live in a country with a modicum of free speech.
I was impressed by MG's response to the captain's armband controversy earlier in the season. He was respectful and dignified.
 
DutchEagleJohan said:
Us? Whose amongst those? People in your church? Christians only or do Allah and Shiva count as well? Do "us" agree on the matter of afterlife and reward? And what about other believers or non believers like myself? And the connection to morals is doing my head in. But then I was raised strictly protestant so would need a few hours in the pub to discuss this properly. Fine of course that some of the players are believers, ok even if Marc wants to write on his Captain's armband but in the end religion is a PERSONAL thing, that not necessarily should be in the public domain and certainly should not be seen as the reason why people live a good life.
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I don't disagree with much that you say but I must pick up on the comment about "even if Marc wants to write..." The reason for this is that others decided to impose their belief system on him by forcing him to wear a symbol of their beliefs. It is wholly appropriate that he should respond by expressing his belief system. He would not have done so had he not been forced by others to represent their beliefs.
 
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