Calling Parish.

[PatrickA]

I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t understand the complexities and intricacies of the rules around finances for football clubs.

Nonetheless, I was looking back at our squad in 2015 when we were less established in the Premier League.
Our forward options were Zaha, Bolassie, Sako, Murray, Gale, Campbell, Puncheon, Lee, Chamakh and at points Wickham and Bamford.
Admittedly, they weren’t there all at the same time that season and there may have been some injuries along the way and concerns whether they were all top notch performers.

Compare this to now where we have JPM, Sarr, Pino and Nketiah and …..that’s about it.
Sure, on occasions Kamada and Devenny are pushed further forward but it’s not real their positions.

I know we played a different system back then, and that supposedly Glasner likes to work with a smaller squad.
However, we now have a far busier schedule and more international call ups.

How can financial rules be an excuse for not having adequate resources when you look at the depth of the forward positions in 2015 when presumably similar rules applied and we were less established in the league?
In conclusion in my view we are light in at least two forward positions and are now reaping the consequences.

 

[chris123]

I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t understand the complexities and intricacies of the rules around finances for football clubs.

Nonetheless, I was looking back at our squad in 2015 when we were less established in the Premier League.
Our forward options were Zaha, Bolassie, Sako, Murray, Gale, Campbell, Puncheon, Lee, Chamakh and at points Wickham and Bamford.
Admittedly, they weren’t there all at the same time that season and there may have been some injuries along the way and concerns whether they were all top notch performers.

Compare this to now where we have JPM, Sarr, Pino and Nketiah and …..that’s about it.
Sure, on occasions Kamada and Devenny are pushed further forward but it’s not real their positions.

I know we played a different system back then, and that supposedly Glasner likes to work with a smaller squad.
However, we now have a far busier schedule and more international call ups.

How can financial rules be an excuse for not having adequate resources when you look at the depth of the forward positions in 2015 when presumably similar rules applied and we were less established in the league?
In conclusion in my view we are light in at least two forward positions and are now reaping the consequences.

Wage bill has changed since then.

 

[Ex Dubai Eagle]

I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t understand the complexities and intricacies of the rules around finances for football clubs.

Nonetheless, I was looking back at our squad in 2015 when we were less established in the Premier League.
Our forward options were Zaha, Bolassie, Sako, Murray, Gale, Campbell, Puncheon, Lee, Chamakh and at points Wickham and Bamford.
Admittedly, they weren’t there all at the same time that season and there may have been some injuries along the way and concerns whether they were all top notch performers.

Compare this to now where we have JPM, Sarr, Pino and Nketiah and …..that’s about it.
Sure, on occasions Kamada and Devenny are pushed further forward but it’s not real their positions.

I know we played a different system back then, and that supposedly Glasner likes to work with a smaller squad.
However, we now have a far busier schedule and more international call ups.

How can financial rules be an excuse for not having adequate resources when you look at the depth of the forward positions in 2015 when presumably similar rules applied and we were less established in the league?
In conclusion in my view we are light in at least two forward positions and are now reaping the consequences.

OK I am old & not as bright as I would like to have been, but this is how I saw it, it absolutely may not be 100% correct but at 8.30 in the morning with a hangover this is my recollection -

FFP came in in the years before that & the rules on break even / clubs making losses were introduced, these loses over an agreed period (3 Years) were linked to a clubs turnover, obviously this favoured the bigger clubs with larger stadiums & more international clientele - Overall brought in to stop clubs spending vast amounts more than they could earn (and in some cases more than they could afford / putting their future solvency position at risk) also to stop clubs spending a ridiculously high %age of their income on players salaries, (I seem to remember at one point Palace were spending something like 80% of revenue on salaries, whereas today its nearer 60%, we were nowhere near the worst offenders, it was reported at some point in time some clubs , especially in the championship that were spending in excess of 105% / 110% of revenue) of course the TV money changed the landscape beyond anyone's wildest imagination, but the difference between the amount of TV money in the PL was vastly different to TV money in the Championship & lower leagues (& still is) whilst the cost of players transfers & salaries have escalated, every club in the football pyramid is chasing a higher league / league position to help fund its dreams, the costs of having a club hasn't gone down - in short since 2015 the PL / European Competitions / TV Money / FFP - PSR (+ a bunch of internal & external factors that effect every club in their own particular set of circumstances) have all evolved, its harder to stay onside with all the regulations, especially if you don't check your info@email inbox -

 

[park the bus]

I’d be the first to acknowledge that I don’t understand the complexities and intricacies of the rules around finances for football clubs.

Nonetheless, I was looking back at our squad in 2015 when we were less established in the Premier League.
Our forward options were Zaha, Bolassie, Sako, Murray, Gale, Campbell, Puncheon, Lee, Chamakh and at points Wickham and Bamford.
Admittedly, they weren’t there all at the same time that season and there may have been some injuries along the way and concerns whether they were all top notch performers.

Compare this to now where we have JPM, Sarr, Pino and Nketiah and …..that’s about it.
Sure, on occasions Kamada and Devenny are pushed further forward but it’s not real their positions.

I know we played a different system back then, and that supposedly Glasner likes to work with a smaller squad.
However, we now have a far busier schedule and more international call ups.

How can financial rules be an excuse for not having adequate resources when you look at the depth of the forward positions in 2015 when presumably similar rules applied and we were less established in the league?
In conclusion in my view we are light in at least two forward positions and are now reaping the consequences.

Unfortunately Glasner has overused Mateta to the point where others are merely bench warmers. Rather than give them decent minutes and the opportunity to express themselves, feeling a genuine part of the team, they come on for the briefest cameo moments. Ironically Glasner is now having to use these players owing to injuries elsewhere. What goes round comes round. Even more ironical is that Roy Hodgson, a defensively orientated manager, had more options in the forward line than Glasner.

 

[Palacesince64]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

 

[Caterham]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

It will also have lots asking - OK what have you done with the real Steve Parish

 

[stevo]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

How does that work when we already have Uche on loan?

 

[Willo]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

Dragusin's first game this season was us against us on Sunday.
He has been missing for nigh on a year due to a serious injury !!

 

[doombear]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

Yep - but it is that time of year.

 

[doombear]

How does that work when we already have Uche on loan?

The limit of 2 loans applies to the domestic league only. As Uche has come from Getafe we still have 2 loan spots for PL players.

 

[Eagleman13]

How does that work when we already have Uche on loan?

He is a loan from outside the EPL. we have 2 domestic loan spots available.

 

[stevo]

He is a loan from outside the EPL. we have 2 domestic loan spots available.

Oh wow MEGA 👍

 

[Rednblue2008]

How many other Premier Chairmen explain to supporters the strategy of their clubs, why do you feel so entitled.
The loss of form is down to Glasner, he trains the players, picks the formation and selects the team. As far as I am aware Parish isn't involved in any of those duties.
Glasner uses under investment in the team, as an excuse when we lose, but not when we win.

Please wake up the squad depth is far to small for all the games that are being put on the players this is why we are running on injuries now. If the so called Saint parish was to have seen this on the summer window instead of sticking his head up his arse fighting Uefa we might have had a bigger and better squad to play the extra games. At the moment I think oliver glaser is working wonders with what he has at his disposal. Just hope that this winter window sees more than just Brennon Johnson coming through the selhurst door.

 

[crvenaeagle]

Sky and others reporting that we’ve agreed a fee for Johnson and are negotiating a deal for Dragusin on loan with an option and something similar for Oscar Bobb. If Parish signs those 2 early doors it’ll be a clear message to Glasner…. It will also be a miracle!

Oh dear, Dragusin is proper pants.
Perhaps it was a bigger part of the deal?

"We're sorry for messing you around with the Solomon deal, but if you give us Brennan we'll even take Dragusin off your hands too"

 

[Painter]

Dragusin's first game this season was us against us on Sunday.
He has been missing for nigh on a year due to a serious injury !!

He is the sort of player available on loan, someone who needs game time. If people think we are going to loan another clubs first team regular player, they are deluded, why would a club do that!
It's only going to be a player coming back from injury or a youngster needing game time from the Chelsea player factory.

 

[Willo]

He is the sort of player available on loan, someone who needs game time. If people think we are going to loan another clubs first team regular player, they are deluded, why would a club do that!
It's only going to be a player coming back from injury or a youngster needing game time from the Chelsea player factory.

I for one has never suggested that we should target first team regulars on 'Loan' for the reasons you have stated.
I do recognise the qualities of Dragusin but signing a player who has not been playing for some time due to a serious injury is probably not in the interests of our club.
However, what on earth do I know ? In the final analysis I am one of life's modest trundlers and a limited clunker to boot.

 

[Jimmy]

Oh dear, Dragusin is proper pants.
Perhaps it was a bigger part of the deal?

"We're sorry for messing you around with the Solomon deal, but if you give us Brennan we'll even take Dragusin off your hands too"

I’d be very happy with a Dragusin type of player (assuming he it fit enough) on loan. Someone who can cover right back and centre back and fill in where needed on cup days. Bit like Chilwell last season.

 

[Willo]

I’d be very happy with a Dragusin type of player (assuming he it fit enough) on loan. Someone who can cover right back and centre back and fill in where needed on cup days. Bit like Chilwell last season.

I am informed that Dragusin has played in a three-man back line at Genoa and in a four-man defence for Romania.
Strong and aggressive in his defending.