Bournemouth match thread

[The Dolphin]

Absolutely agree, we moan about Kamada but at least he looks like he is giving some fight. The foul by Eza was stupid and the way players went past him made it look as if he just didn’t bother to win the ball from them. In truth the whole 11 didn’t look confident to create chances and constantly either gave the ball away or made poor passes. The control when receiving the ball, Matteta being an example was awful. Take the draw but it was a bad performance.

I thought that Kamada was woeful when he came on.
He ambled about instead of chasing people down - he is a really bad transfer.
Eze looks out of sorts.
The point was good but the performance poor.
We are only missing Wharton now and I am beginning to wonder about Glasner a little.
Bournemouth are positioned way above their pay trade and I hoped for better.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Eze has missed around six games this season through injury, how much rest does he need?

In full flow he's outstanding but he's been nowhere near his best this season and I am.genuinely wondering whether the time to cash in may be approaching.

On yesterday’s showing we were actually worse off by starting Eze. No assists, no goals and half hearted commitment throughout. He gave the ball away so many times and then makes no meaningful attempt to recover, win it back or put the opposition under pressure.

He was truly a passenger yesterday and the final straw was mid way through the second half when he ducked out of a header from a long ball played up to him, whilst he was completely unchallenged. The overwhelming reaction of those around me was to get him straight off.

 

[PatrickA]

Was Roy in the dugout? It was that type of performance.

We're likely to eke out safety through draws and solid defensive performances.

There are not many goals in this team.

We've scored 2 on a few occasions and 3 against Brighton, but it's a struggle in general terms.

There aren't goals from Hughes, Wharton, Lerma or Doucoure from midfield, even if they have other attributes.
Mateta looks to be the only candidate to get to double figures, but only if service improves.
Sarr has done well recently, but has never been a reliable goalscorer.

At the moment I'm more confident that goals will come from our defenders or set pieces at present.

Better chances would be created with Wharton's involvement, but that looks to be some way off.

Additions in the transfer window may allow us to carry more threat, but that can't be taken for granted.

 

[Palacesince64]

I thought that Kamada was woeful when he came on.
He ambled about instead of chasing people down - he is a really bad transfer.
Eze looks out of sorts.
The point was good but the performance poor.
We are only missing Wharton now and I am beginning to wonder about Glasner a little.
Bournemouth are positioned way above their pay trade and I hoped for better.

Kamada comes on for the last 10 minutes and whether you think he did ok or was ineffectual he’s “woeful”, but Eze contributes very little in 90+ minutes other than giving the ball away in dangerous positions and he’s “out of sorts”. Double standards perhaps?

 

[Willo]

Kamada comes on for the last 10 minutes and whether you think he did ok or was ineffectual he’s “woeful”, but Eze contributes very little in 90+ minutes other than giving the ball away in dangerous positions and he’s “out of sorts”. Double standards perhaps?

Eze has built up 'Credit' in the bank on account of his overall performances for us, he is a player who has excited supporters and we are all aware his qualities. He is currently not at the top of his capabilities, hence the 'Mood music' surrounding his form at this juncture.

Kamada has never impressed our supporters.

 

[dreamwaverider]

I truly hope they sign him.

€35m and I would sell him

 

[NMPalace]

We're likely to eke out safety through draws and solid defensive performances.

There are not many goals in this team.

We've scored 2 on a few occasions and 3 against Brighton, but it's a struggle in general terms.

There aren't goals from Hughes, Wharton, Lerma or Doucoure from midfield, even if they have other attributes.
Mateta looks to be the only candidate to get to double figures, but only if service improves.
Sarr has done well recently, but has never been a reliable goalscorer.

At the moment I'm more confident that goals will come from our defenders or set pieces at present.

Better chances would be created with Wharton's involvement, but that looks to be some way off.

Additions in the transfer window may allow us to carry more threat, but that can't be taken for granted.

good point re lack of goals.

As has been said the formation essentially is 8 defenders and 3 attack minded players so those 3 need to be in form.

There are no goals (ever) from CM and to tell the truth i am very underwhelmed with Lerma since we signed him. Not sure what he offers - no creativity, not very fast and doesn't demand the ball (although with injuries glad we have him!).

To be honest i don't think we are a million miles away from a Roy team now, especially away from home. Keep it tight and hopefully nick a goal on the break.

We are not a good watch and our inability to hold and pass the ball is getting a bit embarrassing.

 

[Dnjc]

good point re lack of goals.

As has been said the formation essentially is 8 defenders and 3 attack minded players so those 3 need to be in form.

There are no goals (ever) from CM and to tell the truth i am very underwhelmed with Lerma since we signed him. Not sure what he offers - no creativity, not very fast and doesn't demand the ball (although with injuries glad we have him!).

To be honest i don't think we are a million miles away from a Roy team now, especially away from home. Keep it tight and hopefully nick a goal on the break.

We are not a good watch and our inability to hold and pass the ball is getting a bit embarrassing.

That’s harsh. We are far from that. we push up a lot. We need some more creativity in midfield to Help though.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

Having watched the match,Eze and Munoz had great chances to give us the lead and we were playing one of the form teams. The old cliche “ respect the point” couldn’t be more apt!

 

[Eaglecoops]

There is a lot of talk on here about a lack of creativity in midfield, however we only play two midfielders so what do people expect especially when one of those players is expected to be an enforcer who breaks up play.

In theory you could say we have four midfielders as the wide two, Eze and Sarr should have a duel role insofar as they should both attack and defend. But if they do defend (and let’s face it, neither of them are particularly good at it), then there is literally no outlet up front other than Mateta who is normally double marked.

In a nutshell we look as if we have no attacking options other than on a fast break.

This in my opinion is the massive downside of the wing back 5 man defence as we never seem to have control in the midfield and always look lightweight in attack other than when we catch the opposition on the hop. In fact this is probably the reason we struggle against the crap teams because they sit back as much as us and we can’t fast break them.

 

[palace chick]

good point re lack of goals.

As has been said the formation essentially is 8 defenders and 3 attack minded players so those 3 need to be in form.

There are no goals (ever) from CM and to tell the truth i am very underwhelmed with Lerma since we signed him. Not sure what he offers - no creativity, not very fast and doesn't demand the ball (although with injuries glad we have him!).

To be honest i don't think we are a million miles away from a Roy team now, especially away from home. Keep it tight and hopefully nick a goal on the break.

We are not a good watch and our inability to hold and pass the ball is getting a bit embarrassing.

Lerma to me works hard alongside Hughes and yes there aren’t goals in those two. Biggest problem for them is that they are just two in midfield and have to work so hard. Just perhaps if we had four across the middle we would have more goals from midfield. Glasners set up is hard for our middle two. Perhaps we should be expecting more goals from our wingbacks and better service from them to our forwards?

 

[dreamwaverider]

Where we are right now, although it doesn't seem right (because I can't help but think of Bournemouth as a lower grade club) but to get a point away at Bournemouth is a good result. They are in the top four for the last 6 games.
Although they had way more shots, they had left their shooting boots behind because there accuracy was woeful. Or it could be because our defenders did a good job in putting them off. I only remember Henderson making one save.
The way we are set up, we dont have a goal scoring midfielder. Hughes, Lerma, Doucoure, Wharton, Devenny none of these guys seem to shoot hardly ever.
We are relying therefore on Mateta (Nketia) Sarr and Eze as attackers. We should also be expecting Munoz and Mitchell to shoot on occasion. Munoz is fine, but I can't remember seeing Mitchell have a shot this year. He doesn't go there.
This would explain why we are a low scoring team. Yet our goal average is ok considering our position in the league. It is a dilemma for Glasner to grapple with, because we could do with some more air between us and the relegation zone.

 

[CT Charlie]

Mateta, Sarr, Eze and Muñoz have shown they are threats to score in the run of play. With more time, Devenny can find a goal or three. Guehi and Lacroix can score from set pieces. From the rest of the squad we can cobble together a few scraps — from the long-range blasts of Schlupp, Lerma, Doucoure, Chalobah, or even Mitchell or Hughes. Just keep those clean sheets coming, and pray that Nketiah shocks us all.

 

[NEILLO]

Those who are stats/data driven may be interested to know we are 8th in the Premier League ‘ shots ‘ table.

So if you take that into consideration you could conclude it’s the conversion rate that is the issue

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Those who are stats/data driven may be interested to know we are 8th in the Premier League ‘ shots ‘ table.

So if you take that into consideration you could conclude it’s the conversion rate that is the issue

Looking at the number which go over the bar we'd have converted more than we've scored.

 

[Eaglecoops]

Those who are stats/data driven may be interested to know we are 8th in the Premier League ‘ shots ‘ table.

So if you take that into consideration you could conclude it’s the conversion rate that is the issue

And part of that conversion rate is where these shots are taken from, as it’s undoubtedly harder to convert from 30 yards than 10.

 

[PatrickA]

As we struggle to score many goals in games (although it has improved of late) clean sheets are paramount to achieve wins.

I'd take 11th place at the end of the season if it was offered now.
We achieved that in the Pulis season when scoring only 33 goals with the top scorers being Puncheon and Gayle, both on the princely sum of 7 goals.

However, that side was adept at achieving the dogged 1-0 win, which the present side has only achieved twice this season.
Our way of playing mitigates against too many clean sheets.
This is not a complaint but more of an observation.
We will always give up chances through playing advanced wing backs and just 2 central midfielders.
For the present system to truly work effectively, and collect more wins, we have to find a way of scoring more goals (as the team did at the end of the last season).
I'm not discounting that happening as players settle in, players get fitter and we bring in additions.
At the moment I'm a bit more optimistic than I was in November.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

As we struggle to score many goals in games (although it has improved of late) clean sheets are paramount to achieve wins.

I'd take 11th place at the end of the season if it was offered now.
We achieved that in the Pulis season when scoring only 33 goals with the top scorers being Puncheon and Gayle, both on the princely sum of 7 goals.

However, that side was adept at achieving the dogged 1-0 win, which the present side has only achieved twice this season.
Our way of playing mitigates against too many clean sheets.
This is not a complaint but more of an observation.
We will always give up chances through playing advanced wing backs and just 2 central midfielders.
For the present system to truly work effectively, and collect more wins, we have to find a way of scoring more goals (as the team did at the end of the last season).
I'm not discounting that happening as players settle in, players get fitter and we bring in additions.
At the moment I'm a bit more optimistic than I was in November.

Everyone knows we don’t lace our boots up till January, we are noted for being Spring time Charlie’s!

 

[park the bus]

As we struggle to score many goals in games (although it has improved of late) clean sheets are paramount to achieve wins.

I'd take 11th place at the end of the season if it was offered now.
We achieved that in the Pulis season when scoring only 33 goals with the top scorers being Puncheon and Gayle, both on the princely sum of 7 goals.

However, that side was adept at achieving the dogged 1-0 win, which the present side has only achieved twice this season.
Our way of playing mitigates against too many clean sheets.
This is not a complaint but more of an observation.
We will always give up chances through playing advanced wing backs and just 2 central midfielders.
For the present system to truly work effectively, and collect more wins, we have to find a way of scoring more goals (as the team did at the end of the last season).
I'm not discounting that happening as players settle in, players get fitter and we bring in additions.
At the moment I'm a bit more optimistic than I was in November.

Spurs are currently 11th, on 23 points, 6 more than we have. In between them and us are Brentford, West Ham, Man Utd, and Everton. A string of better results than we have achieved thus far would be necessary to leapfrog those teams. I'd take 14th to 16th...

 

[NMPalace]

Mateta, Sarr, Eze and Muñoz have shown they are threats to score in the run of play. With more time, Devenny can find a goal or three. Guehi and Lacroix can score from set pieces. From the rest of the squad we can cobble together a few scraps — from the long-range blasts of Schlupp, Lerma, Doucoure, Chalobah, or even Mitchell or Hughes. Just keep those clean sheets coming, and pray that Nketiah shocks us all.

we clearly need Eze and Mateta scoring more as there are not many goals in our team.

Sarr has improved and a couple of his recent finishes have been excellent - long may it continue.

Considering our set pieces lack imagination we have scored a few, although the header v Man City was our first headed goal this season.

It would be great if say Hughes and Lerma (or another in CM) could get maybe 2 a season as that seems to be their career average - Lerma scored 5 in his last season at Bournemouth!

It is also clear we need subs to contribution - yes step forward Eddie! I noticed both Fulham's goals yesterday came from subs