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Ahamada & Rak-Sakyi
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Palacesince64
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Palace were probably disappointed he didn’t get more game time last season. He definitely needs it. The fact they turned down offers for him suggests they still think he has a future with us. No one from the championship took him on loan this time so I suppose the hope is he gets regular game time in Turkey to get him match fit and toughen him up a bit. The ball is in his court to apply himself and come back with a season still on his contract.
steeleye20
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Arsenal have a 15 year old in the first team, Liverpool a 16 year old, Michael Olise was 18.
Imo you have to catch them just right, or they are lost, in our system of endless loans out they just disappear.
Mustapha, Rak-Saki should be on the first team bench, but post Ebs we prefer average players like Devenny.
You do need brilliance, that something extra.
SP says we will be more 'broadly-based' but it looks like more average to me.
COYP anyway at least we have a very good coach.
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Imo you have to catch them just right, or they are lost, in our system of endless loans out they just disappear.
Mustapha, Rak-Saki should be on the first team bench, but post Ebs we prefer average players like Devenny.
You do need brilliance, that something extra.
SP says we will be more 'broadly-based' but it looks like more average to me.
COYP anyway at least we have a very good coach.
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Teddy Eagle
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I agree but OGs approach is the pragmatic one. He has ultimate belief in his system and is picking the players who are the best fit - if he had access to top echelon payers he'd no doubt play them for their game changing brilliance but consistency is his game (the exception being Kamada where his faith was a mystery for a long time but has started to be vindicated).
As long as it's working it's hard to complain too much.
silvertop
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Now I'm confused. I understood JRS was required for stat reasons to comply with UEFA Conference rules.
Perhaps the new lad from Arsenal fills that gap?
Perhaps the new lad from Arsenal fills that gap?
Palacesince64
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Probably another stupid UEFA rule whereby as long as you put them on the list by a certain date you’re fine.
Teddy Eagle
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If so it'll be another one we'll probably fall foul of when an exception is made in our case.
Agreed he couldn't keep his place in a Championship side. Apparently he thinks he should be in our first team, not sure why he would think a poor season at Sheffield United justifies that.
It's odd that he wasn't sold or went out on loan earlier, was that just click bait rubbish, did our club say no or did he say no?
A lot of good players go to Turkey and flop, in his case it's more about him proving he can do it. I can see him leaving at the end of his contract and being picked up by a Championship club.
In the meantime I hope for his sake I hope he has a great season.
JRS couldn't hold down a place at Sheffield United last season and didn't really impress in their games shown on tv.
He's got two tricks - one where he cuts inside and has a shot with his left foot, the other where he steps over the ball and goes on the outside and either crosses or shoots with his right foot.
Both can be effective and he has an eye for goal.
At present though his weaknesses seem to outweigh his strengths.
His game doesn't appear to have matured or developed in the last year or so.
I don't see a future for him at Palace, at least under Glasner.
His loan move to Turkey seems an odd one, in particular if there was concrete interest from European clubs.
It's too soon to write him off completely, but at this stage he should be playing regular senior football and making a positive impact on games.
He's got two tricks - one where he cuts inside and has a shot with his left foot, the other where he steps over the ball and goes on the outside and either crosses or shoots with his right foot.
Both can be effective and he has an eye for goal.
At present though his weaknesses seem to outweigh his strengths.
His game doesn't appear to have matured or developed in the last year or so.
I don't see a future for him at Palace, at least under Glasner.
His loan move to Turkey seems an odd one, in particular if there was concrete interest from European clubs.
It's too soon to write him off completely, but at this stage he should be playing regular senior football and making a positive impact on games.
I meant interest from British clubs.
For a place in our front three he would have been behind Sarr, Pino, Devenny, Kamada, Uche, Nketiah (when fit) and Esse. So not going to play. Didn’t pull up any trees in the Championship. Shame but at the end of the day he’s not shown he’s good enough for Premier League level or our first team squad
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Rize are at home Monday evening, 18.00(bst), they are 2nd from bottom after 3 games, playing the bottom club. Might have a watch to see if JRS features, if he's not named I'll watch summat else. 😀
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He was really good on the Charlton loan. And the funny thing I find about the Sheffield Utd loan is that he had similar stats to Esse. He's maybe two years older.
He needs to stand out in Turkey to have much of a future here.
I can see him being a decent championship player or Scottish Premiership as he is already. Clearly, the jury's out on if he's Premier League level.
I would have liked to see us try him but it is what it is. I do think we're incredibly slow at using young players which reminds me now of Derry leaving.
He needs to stand out in Turkey to have much of a future here.
I can see him being a decent championship player or Scottish Premiership as he is already. Clearly, the jury's out on if he's Premier League level.
I would have liked to see us try him but it is what it is. I do think we're incredibly slow at using young players which reminds me now of Derry leaving.
From the small bits I've read/seen it does sound like JRS has had lots of opportunities to play at Palace but seems to see Palace as a stepping stone rather than a home. His brother doing well at Chelsea may not help but currently he is not even good enough for our team let alone thinking of anything bigger.
Personally I'm thinking he'll end up getting sold to a Championship club or even released at the end of his contract and we'll hear little/nothing from him again.
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I don't think Palace have handled JRS particularly well.
If you watch him closely he is a frustrating player. Can drift out of games and looks disinterested, however, he has flashes of brilliance and definitely has the X factor.
He is physically small and appeared to be a late grower - not everyone is built like a Rooney at 16.
The Charlton loan proved there is a very good player in there but consistency and maybe his work rate could prevent him reaching the top.
His next season at Palace was a big frustration - Roy barely played him and he got a couple of injuries.
When Ollie came in he had just returned from injury and clearly doesn't fit into his plans. The wide position in a 3421 is very different from a 433 and it takes time to adjust and understand that (as Sarr has shown/proved).
I think his Sheff loan was a little underwhelming but as some say it was a failure is a bit unfair.
He arrived injured so took a while to get in their team and with many midweek game she was often alternated (with Andre Brooks who played 20 prem games the season before).
His goal record was ok, similar to Eze for us really (and Eze scores in clusters).
The concern was that he rarely played a full 90 minutes and right at the end of the season appeared to be dropped. I think he has proved he is a decent championship player, but probably not Prem standard - no disgrace there.
To say he couldn't get a championship loan this season is also unfair.
Last year on top of wages we charged Sheff U a £1m loan fee and a £1m promotion bonus.
I suspect this year we wanted a loan with an obligation to buy (as he will only have 1 year left of his contract next summer) and clearly club's were less willing to agree to this. I suspect we wanted c£10m for him (Cannon moved to Sheff U for this fee in Jan 2025 after never playing for Leicester and played less than JRS).
I think a move to Rangers would have been good for him and would have increased his exposure.
Instead all these potential moves didn't get completed and now we've loaned him to Turkey, the only option left on the table.
Hopefully he will do ok, but even if he does i suspect we will be lucky to get £5m for him next summer.
As for Ahamada he appears the perfect panic buy. Yes we needed a central midfielder but he was completely the wrong fit. Hopefully he is not on massive wages as i strongly suspect we will need to 'release' him from his contract if he doesn't get a Jan loan and his contract is up next summer.
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My concern with JRS is not his ability, as he seems to have all the tricks and can finish well, but rather his football intelligence. When I've seen him play, he often looks a bit lost, and his positioning is not always great. This can mean he disappears from games. I'm not really sure how this loan will benefit him, but at least he should have more chance of regular football. If he grasps the opportunity, he should be in a stronger position next summer. Sorloth showed Turkey can be a springboard.
Is it? Surely, after an average championship loan its clear he isn't premiership level.
But also, we dont need him. We've now got 3 experienced 'wide 10's' with international caps. Esse, who is ahead of him.
Plus Kamada and Devenny who can/do play there when needed.
He'd have to be pulling up serious tres to even get a sniff, which he isn't so he wont (with us).
Norbury Old Git
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Sak-Sakyi scored two goals on his first starting appearance for Rizespor in the Turkish Super Lig yesterday. Hopefully this is the re-start of his goal scoring prowess. Playing in Turkey certainly did wonders for Sorloth and hopefully this will do wonders for the young man.
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Nice goals particularly his first.