Farewell Eze?

Spindle said:
I take the approach of Steve Parish. He's building bit by bit. In 2012 we had an amazing generational talent torn away from us, nothing we could do to stop it. We now attract talent and hold them for longer, the team is stronger, and at some point they won't want to leave, or are even less likely to. That's the plan anyway.
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The fundamental issue is our infrastructure.

Parish has done a great job, but he needs the financial backing and vision to create a stadium that will vastly increase our revenue. What we have planned is not sufficient.
 
I still get this feeling we are the only dumb Club to run like this.

Leicester kept all their top players and won the league. We've just won the FA Cup, we COULD get Champions League by league place finish if we kept the starting 11 and invested 100 million into the bench and competition for starting 11 because we are playing that well in Glasner's system.

But no, lets just say we are a selling club and leave it at that. There is no harm in Eze and Guehi staying another year but I can see why they won't, when we've signed one back-up left back and a Goalkeeper with 1 week before the window shutting. Maybe if we'd have done some serious business, they'd be inclined to stay and see if they can get top 4-6.
 
leejaneagles said:
I still get this feeling we are the only dumb Club to run like this.

Leicester kept all their top players and won the league. We've just won the FA Cup, we COULD get Champions League by league place finish if we kept the starting 11 and invested 100 million into the bench and competition for starting 11 because we are playing that well in Glasner's system.

But no, lets just say we are a selling club and leave it at that. There is no harm in Eze and Guehi staying another year but I can see why they won't, when we've signed one back-up left back and a Goalkeeper with 1 week before the window shutting. Maybe if we'd have done some serious business, they'd be inclined to stay and see if they can get top 4-6.
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Dear oh dear.

We aren’t the only club to be run sensibly.

Leicester’s players were in demand after they won the league, not before. What happened after they won the league? Maguire, Drinkwater and right winger all left. How good have they been since? Before Leicester won the league they were almost relegated and the manager asssulted one of his players pre season. Ranieiri came in and it was a freak season. They were very good, but let’s not pretend they aimed to win the league.

We could get champions league from our regular finishing position is a bit of a leap don’t you think? There are some strongly equipped squads out there. 6-7 of them and you think we could finish 4th? Hmmm.

Every club is a selling club. The harm in keeping Eze and Guehi for another year is we could lose £40 mil on Guehi and £20 mil on Eze. No harm you say? Hmmm.
 
Rudi Hedman said:
Dear oh dear.

We aren’t the only club to be run sensibly.

Leicester’s players were in demand after they won the league, not before. What happened after they won the league? Maguire, Drinkwater and right winger all left. How good have they been since? Before Leicester won the league they were almost relegated and the manager asssulted one of his players pre season. Ranieiri came in and it was a freak season. They were very good, but let’s not pretend they aimed to win the league.

We could get champions league from our regular finishing position is a bit of a leap don’t you think? There are some strongly equipped squads out there. 6-7 of them and you think we could finish 4th? Hmmm.

Every club is a selling club. The harm in keeping Eze and Guehi for another year is we could lose £40 mil on Guehi and £20 mil on Eze. No harm you say? Hmmm.
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As last season proved, you don’t necessarily need to finish 4th for Champions League.

That said, yes, I do believe we could have finished 4th and the many seasons of 12th don’t matter as we are riding a wave combined of momentum & genuine talent and Management that can get the best out of this squad if backed.

Let’s call a spade a spade. 2 months ago, Glasner and the Team thought we had Europa. If we did and if we won it, then we’d have Champions League. Glasner has stated he was assured business would be done early and he would be backed.

This would have had a knock on effect to the rest of the squad that okay, maybe we aren’t the same old tired Palace of old and have ambition.

Would it have stopped Eze moving to Arsenal? Perhaps not, we will never know.

But I now feel as the lowest spending club in multiple leagues, Eze leaving like this will make Guehi and Wharton think what’s the point. We will get some emergency replacement in and they will bed in eventually.

Glasner will probably go because what is the point of working for Clowns. Rightly or wrongly, and I am massively in the camp of UEFA screwed us but he and the Squad will think the Upper Management had one job whilst they did the hard work on the field and that was to get the paperwork done for Europa league.

Glasner will feel like he could’ve won that competition. He will certainly feel like had we spent 50-100mil early he could have a real crack at top 4-6.

This isn’t just Eze leaving. This is Eze leaving after the Conference league relegation, the 2.3m being spent total, Glasner complaining about lack of signings, Guehi uncertain.

It’s truly, truly pathetic all around. We could and should have invested heavily and have a great squad and a happy Manager. Then, if the same news happens, it doesn’t derail as us much.
 
It is what it is. Very sad to see him go. But to be honest we have 1 more season of Glasner and then we get Dyche ball if west ham don't get him and it's back to the usual we see on a Saturday afternoon.

I would honestly leave in Ezes position too even tho I love the club to bits.

Enjoy these days and European football. It won't last forever.
 
eaglesdare said:
It is what it is. Very sad to see him go. But to be honest we have 1 more season of Glasner and then we get Dyche ball if west ham don't get him and it's back to the usual we see on a Saturday afternoon.

I would honestly leave in Ezes position too even tho I love the club to bits.

Enjoy these days and European football. It won't last forever.
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I would like to think that if OG walks away at the end of the season we would be more likely to get a Potter type manager rather than a Dyche / Pullis /Allardyce type.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Palace fans seem to be taking this very well.

I'm furious that players still don't think that Palace are good enough for them. The Champions League is just another competition. Arsenal have never won it. In fact, Arsenal may be winning nothing again this season. The Emirates is a Library.

If it's about money, then surely we could pay him more.

Once again, we take two steps backward. Olise, Wan Bissaka and now Eze with Guehi to go now or next season.

Why do we bother?
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Understand the frustration but we need to be realistic. Players love playing in champ league as seen as ultimate test even if you don’t win it. I have made my peace with it and glad it is not spurs. It is what we do next that matters
 
leejaneagles said:
There is no harm in Eze and Guehi staying another year but I can see why they won't
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Neither are going to sign a new contract. In your world, this is the position we'd be in next summer:

- Guehi walks on a free
- Glasner out of contract
- Eze 1 year left - £30m maybe?
- Mateta 1 year left - £20m maybe? Tough to get him to sign a new deal with the above 3 all walking out at the same time.
- Wharton likely to be top of a lot of shopping lists

Trying to resolve all of that in one summer, whilst throwing away ~£70m in fees for Eze/Guehi that we'd get this summer compared to next, sets us up the type of bomb season Brentford might be about to have.

Yes, we could hold on to every one and try and have the best season we'd ever have. However, even if we did pluck £100m out of the sky* and spend it we're still barely top 10 in terms of squad investment this summer, and we're still only a Munoz, Eze, Mateta, Guehi or Lacroix injury away from no chance whatsoever of the top 6.

* clearly we are in a tight spot financially. We must be, otherwise the club would've just done the El Khannouss deal anyway 2 weeks ago.

The club are absolutely right to take what sounds like £68m for Eze. The thing they now need to do is invest it well enough so that 2 years from now, we have 2 Ezes.
 
ambrose7 said:
Neither are going to sign a new contract. In your world, this is the position we'd be in next summer:

- Guehi walks on a free
- Glasner out of contract
- Eze 1 year left - £30m maybe?
- Mateta 1 year left - £20m maybe? Tough to get him to sign a new deal with the above 3 all walking out at the same time.
- Wharton likely to be top of a lot of shopping lists

Trying to resolve all of that in one summer, whilst throwing away ~£70m in fees for Eze/Guehi that we'd get this summer compared to next, sets us up the type of bomb season Brentford might be about to have.

Yes, we could hold on to every one and try and have the best season we'd ever have. However, even if we did pluck £100m out of the sky* and spend it we're still barely top 10 in terms of squad investment this summer, and we're still only a Munoz, Eze, Mateta, Guehi or Lacroix injury away from no chance whatsoever of the top 6.

* clearly we are in a tight spot financially. We must be, otherwise the club would've just done the El Khannouss deal anyway 2 weeks ago.

The club are absolutely right to take what sounds like £68m for Eze. The thing they now need to do is invest it well enough so that 2 years from now, we have 2 Ezes.
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Agreed to a point. However, we should’ve done our business early, we are compliant with PSR. Have a centre back and attacking playmaker on the bench for community shield. They slot in when the other 2 leave.

Now it’s hand-me-down panic stations. Hwang from Wolves as Eze replacement. Wooow.
 
leejaneagles said:
Agreed to a point. However, we should’ve done our business early, we are compliant with PSR. Have a centre back and attacking playmaker on the bench for community shield. They slot in when the other 2 leave.

Now it’s hand-me-down panic stations. Hwang from Wolves as Eze replacement. Wooow.
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Don't disagree - strongly think we've been reactive and it's put us in a tough position.

...having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a financial issue somewhere even if it's not PSR. Our net debt rose quite a bit last year and as much as there are Billionaires in the board room, their commitments are questionable. 1 is brand new (with a poor reputation at the Jets) and the other two have been rumoured to be trying to buy other clubs in the past year.

If we were in an okay position we'd have bought El Khannouss before the clause expires and added a couple of bodies elsewhere as you suggest. It's obvious the squad is too small for 4 competitions.

A big f*** up was not sorting out the main stand in ~2018 before costs ballooned. We've still got the revenue and P&L of a bottom 6 side and are punching well above our weight right now.
 
Jim_Cannon said:
Understand the frustration but we need to be realistic. Players love playing in champ league as seen as ultimate test even if you don’t win it. I have made my peace with it and glad it is not spurs. It is what we do next that matters
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Perfect summary of how I feel.

Even our star player who was born round the corner always dreamed of a big move.

I can accept the situation for what it is however I’d rather we go about our business sooner than later as opposed to whining about something that’s done.

Thanks Ebz and farewell however I’m a Palace fan and we have a big season upon us now. Please don’t let it be a car crash!
 
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