Reform

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Reform may not be 'far right' in the mould of, say, Mussolini or Salazar but they certainly display a mindset that believes Thatcher was a namby pamby liberal.

The traditional Right is so far to the left these days that Reform could easily be described as 'conservative'.
It seems that the Left are allowed to have a few loons tagging along, and we just say that they are deluded but mean well. When a right wing party has a few nutters, they are suddenly Nazis.

I think we need a bit of Enoch Powell meets Thatcher, with a bit of Norman Tebbit for good measure.
Farage and co have yet to prove their cred in power, but we need some tough policies to get us out of this mess. Farage might be too moderate, but it would be a start.

Desperate times...

 

[silvertop]

Your prediction of failure for Reform is wishful thinking from a lefty.

You don't seem to understand that the options when voting at an election are limited, and that public determination of the direction this country takes beyond that is virtually non existent. One is exercising the small bit of power one has in the hope of positive change.

Right now, we have a party in power that is lowering the voting age in a desperate attempt to fix an election. That is the dark hole the left is prepared to take us into in order to stay in power. Everything is worse than when they took over, and the Britain we knew is disappearing rapidly. They want to force us to take their medicine, when we know that it is killing us slowly. To do it, they will brainwash the naive, underdeveloped minds of school children.

Do you seriously expect me or anyone to be worried about Reform?

You will no doubt see more examples of the level the scum in power will stoop to in order to keep Reform out of power. It's almost like an outside force is directing them to destroy this country, because everything they do seems to be a move designed to that end.

2 points of reply before I go into the garage to exercise in a despairing bid to fend off old age.

That you continue to refer to me as "lefty" (bl00dy cheek!) says more about how far to the right you have lurched.

The attempts to keep Reform out of power (whatever they may be?) are not working very well, are they? Their advance gives all the impression of being unstoppable. Much more likely is Reform gnawing itself to death, with very little help from whatever secretive "elite" cabal you think are pulling the strings.

 

[silvertop]

So in a thread where someone says Reform are divided you can't point out that Labour are too?

Sometimes George me old lovely you need to lighten up and take a joke in the spirit it was intended.

But since you insist on being serious, Labour, Conservative and the Libs have been around a very long time. They have experienced internal dissidence of every hue and know how to solve it and how to ride it.

Reform are embryonic, amateur and naive. Their divisions will be exposed as they will absent mindedly play them out in public with members ruthlessly dispatched to the obscurity they so richly deserve until they have no-one left to form a government.

And for the record, I have no strong affinity to any of the established parties. And my prediction for Reform has nothing to do with their policies. Indeed, if it was the Silvertop Party that embodied my whole political ethos (I know, eh?) currently riding high in the polls, it would likely crash at breakneck speed into the same wall of doom for the same reason.

 

[silvertop]

Reform may not be 'far right' in the mould of, say, Mussolini or Salazar but they certainly display a mindset that believes Thatcher was a namby pamby liberal.

Thatch would (and did) alter our relationship with the EU rather than leave it.

She would never in a million years have sided with the red flag waving, Bolshevik, protectionists, Leave brigade who wanted to block free movement of labour.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

2 points of reply before I go into the garage to exercise in a despairing bid to fend off old age.

That you continue to refer to me as "lefty" (bl00dy cheek!) says more about how far to the right you have lurched.

The attempts to keep Reform out of power (whatever they may be?) are not working very well, are they? Their advance gives all the impression of being unstoppable. Much more likely is Reform gnawing itself to death, with very little help from whatever secretive "elite" cabal you think are pulling the strings.

I've already done my bit in the garage today. As I finished doing yet another set of dumbbell press, I looked at the picture of my grandchildren on the wall and wondered what kind of life they would have in the place formerly known as England. I realised that there will be many others asking the same question and wondering what to do about it.
Then there are the people who just want to have intellectual arguments while all about them falls apart.

I'm too old and comfortable to go out shouting in the streets. So I'm going to do what I can do.
That is to tell people to rescue themselves from oblivion by rejecting the future our governments are making for us and relieve them of their jobs at the polls if they don't alter course.

 

[georgenorman]

Sometimes George me old lovely you need to lighten up and take a joke in the spirit it was intended.

But since you insist on being serious, Labour, Conservative and the Libs have been around a very long time. They have experienced internal dissidence of every hue and know how to solve it and how to ride it.

Reform are embryonic, amateur and naive. Their divisions will be exposed as they will absent mindedly play them out in public with members ruthlessly dispatched to the obscurity they so richly deserve until they have no-one left to form a government.

And for the record, I have no strong affinity to any of the established parties. And my prediction for Reform has nothing to do with their policies. Indeed, if it was the Silvertop Party that embodied my whole political ethos (I know, eh?) currently riding high in the polls, it would likely crash at breakneck speed into the same wall of doom for the same reason.

Is what you have now posted another joke?

 

[Spiderman]

Thatch would (and did) alter our relationship with the EU rather than leave it.

She would never in a million years have sided with the red flag waving, Bolshevik, protectionists, Leave brigade who wanted to block free movement of labour.

Free movement of people not just labour

 

[Stirlingsays]

We know that. You know that.

Thinking you’re being clever by not being overt about who you actually support and what you actually think fools very few people on here.

Are you feeling ok Dan?

I think you might have a case of the bullsh1ts.....I kind of think you've fooled yourself.

The idea that I hide what I think is again....somewhat amusing.

I can't think of what the point of that would be.

 

[georgenorman]

We know that. You know that.

Thinking you’re being clever by not being overt about who you actually support and what you actually think fools very few people on here.

Stirling is one of the least disingenuous posters on here! For that sort of thing look West.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

I've already done my bit in the garage today. As I finished doing yet another set of dumbbell press, I looked at the picture of my grandchildren on the wall and wondered what kind of life they would have in the place formerly known as England. I realised that there will be many others asking the same question and wondering what to do about it.
Then there are the people who just want to have intellectual arguments while all about them falls apart.

I'm too old and comfortable to go out shouting in the streets. So I'm going to do what I can do.
That is to tell people to rescue themselves from oblivion by rejecting the future our governments are making for us and relieve them of their jobs at the polls if they don't alter course.

I will help you if it comes to it. I’m sure others might. More might have to.