Israel v Hamas

[Penge Eagle]

He's what the offspring would be if Beak and Steeleye had a love child after a night of passion following a Kill the Jews pot luck dinner . Then was raised by Wisbech and CPFC Saturn, and whose only friend at school was DanH.

It fascinates me that the people you mention have such deep rooted care for a population they have no link to on the other side of the world in a country they would never visit. One that would possibly lead to a threat on their lives if they did. All the Middle Eastern conflicts with Muslims getting slaughtered by airstrikes (and indeed real genocide in Africa) seem to be of no interest. It's almost like there was no logic behind this passion. Like an ideology they follow or interest in the world's oldest hatred that rears its ugly head today.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Untrue.

It asked reasonable questions which you have avoided answering by criticising the questions.

Perhaps you can now try to ignore your perception of hyperbole and conspiracy theories and answer the questions.

This was a response to PE yesterday to which no answer has been made.

When so much energy can be expended on posting criticism of others it is reasonable to expect answers to reasonable questions. Which were:-

“So do you approve of everything, without qualification? (of what Israel has done) Where do you draw the line? Only when the last Palestinian is either dead, ejected from Gaza and the West Bank, or subjugated into serving a Greater Israel? Or something else?”

 

[Penge Eagle]

This was a response to PE yesterday to which no answer has been made.

When so much energy can be expended on posting criticism of others it is reasonable to expect answers to reasonable questions. Which were:-

“So do you approve of everything, without qualification? (of what Israel has done) Where do you draw the line? Only when the last Palestinian is either dead, ejected from Gaza and the West Bank, or subjugated into serving a Greater Israel? Or something else?”

Spare me the melodrama. Asking where the line is implies you ever acknowledged one for Hamas. October 7 didn’t bother you enough to ask about lines then - no hand-wringing over rape, slaughtered babies, or Holocaust survivors dragged into tunnels. Now suddenly you're a moral philosopher? If Israel wanted every Palestinian dead, they wouldn't be issuing evacuation warnings or letting aid in - they’d carpet bomb Gaza into dust (a true carpet bomb). But you won’t admit that because your outrage is selective and your so-called "humanitarianism" evaporates when Jews defend themselves.

 

[indianapalace85]

This was a response to PE yesterday to which no answer has been made.

When so much energy can be expended on posting criticism of others it is reasonable to expect answers to reasonable questions. Which were:-

“So do you approve of everything, without qualification? (of what Israel has done) Where do you draw the line? Only when the last Palestinian is either dead, ejected from Gaza and the West Bank, or subjugated into serving a Greater Israel? Or something else?”

You're wasting your time.
Penge Eagle has proven time and time again that he has no true answers, only deflecting.

He refuses to condemn anything since Oct 7th and once again thinks that's the only oart of this war that matters.

 

[indianapalace85]

Spare me the melodrama. Asking where the line is implies you ever acknowledged one for Hamas. October 7 didn’t bother you enough to ask about lines then - no hand-wringing over rape, slaughtered babies, or Holocaust survivors dragged into tunnels. Now suddenly you're a moral philosopher? If Israel wanted every Palestinian dead, they wouldn't be issuing evacuation warnings or letting aid in - they’d carpet bomb Gaza into dust (a true carpet bomb). But you won’t admit that because your outrage is selective and your so-called "humanitarianism" evaporates when Jews defend themselves.

Oh, here we go again...
October 7th, October 7th, October 7th.

What about October 8th - Present Day?
Or have you conveniently wiped that from your biased agenda too?

Oh, and here's another for you...

Israeli, US-backed Gaza aid group must end, say 130 charities

The call from some of the world's top aid organisations and charities comes after reports of soldiers killing hundreds of of Palestinians at aid sites.

www.bbc.co.uk

I suppose this is all fake too isn't it?
Still it's only more civilians killed that didn't get murdered on Oct 7th, so their lives don't matter - so it won't interest you.

 

[Penge Eagle]

You're wasting your time.
Penge Eagle has proven time and time again that he has no true answers, only deflecting.

He refuses to condemn anything since Oct 7th and once again thinks that's the only oart of this war that matters.

First off, how about calming down and having a coffee. I've already asked you once before. What questions have I not answered?

 

[indianapalace85]

First off, how about calming down and having a coffee. I've already asked you once before. What questions have I not answered?

Try revisiting the last 10 pages, count how many questions have come your way and then look at the amount of answers you've given, or rather avoided.

Since most replies to you seem to be about you not answering questions, I'd hazard a guess that appears to be a running theme.

If you're more intelligent and superior to all of us, I'd imagine that small task won't be difficult for you.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Oh, here we go again...
October 7th, October 7th, October 7th.

What about October 8th - Present Day?
Or have you conveniently wiped that from your biased agenda too?

Oh, and here's another for you...

Israeli, US-backed Gaza aid group must end, say 130 charities

The call from some of the world's top aid organisations and charities comes after reports of soldiers killing hundreds of of Palestinians at aid sites.

www.bbc.co.uk

I suppose this is all fake too isn't it?
Still ist's only more civilians killed that didn't get murdered on Oct 7th, so their lives don't matter - so it won't interest you.

Mocking the biggest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust is pretty sick and shows your bigotry.

Unfortunately civilians die in a war. It's a sad fact. I feel sorry for the Palestinian families who have been lost all because of the actions of terrorists Hamas. They started the war in the first place and continue to hide among the population. Why does Hamas think their lives don't matter?

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Trying to shut down reporting of civilian deaths.
By killing journalists and activists.

Israeli strike on Gaza seafront cafe kills at least 20 Palestinians, witnesses and rescuers say

The outdoor cafe was frequently used by journalists, activists and local residents.

www.bbc.co.uk

"At least 20 Palestinians were killed in an Israeli air strike that hit a popular seafront cafe frequently used by activists, journalists, and local residents in western Gaza on Monday, according to medics and eyewitnesses.
Rescue teams evacuated 20 bodies and dozens wounded from Al-Baqa Cafeteria, an outdoor venue which consisted of tents along the beach, a spokesperson for Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence told the BBC."

 

[indianapalace85]

Trying to shut down reporting of civilian deaths.
By killing journalists and activists.

Israeli strike on Gaza seafront cafe kills at least 20 Palestinians, witnesses and rescuers say

The outdoor cafe was frequently used by journalists, activists and local residents.

www.bbc.co.uk

"At least 20 Palestinians were killed in an Israeli air strike that hit a popular seafront cafe frequently used by activists, journalists, and local residents in western Gaza on Monday, according to medics and eyewitnesses.
Rescue teams evacuated 20 bodies and dozens wounded from Al-Baqa Cafeteria, an outdoor venue which consisted of tents along the beach, a spokesperson for Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence told the BBC."

Sadly Penge Eagle doesn't care about any of that.

He's only fixated on Hamas and refuses to accept any wrongdoing of Israel since.
His only argument is "they started it" which is a pathetic argument I'd expect from a 5 year old.

Clearly, one can only come to the conclusion that he either hates Palestinians or is a keyboard warrior.

 

[indianapalace85]

Mocking the biggest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust is pretty sick and shows your bigotry.

Unfortunately civilians die in a war. It's a sad fact. I feel sorry for the Palestinian families who have been lost all because of the actions of terrorists Hamas. They started the war in the first place and continue to hide among the population. Why does Hamas think their lives don't matter?

I'd say the biggest genocide since the Holocaust, which you refuse to accept, is pretty repulsive and shows your ignorance and IDF-loving mindset.

This has nothing to do with Jews or religion, this is to do with preserving life, but you only care about one side of that, clearly.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Try revisiting the last 10 pages, count how many questions have come your way and then look at the amount of answers you've given, or rather avoided.

Since most replies to you seem to be about you not answering questions, I'd hazard a guess that appears to be a running theme.

If you're more intelligent and superior to all of us, I'd imagine that small task won't be difficult for you.

No, you're far more intelligent and superior than me. You're a military genius and moral authority all rolled into one - from your command centre (aka your mum’s basement in Bromley). Obviously, you’d launch a flawless ground invasion, avoid all civilian casualties, dismantle a terror network hiding in schools and hospitals, and somehow do it all with zero war crimes - using tactics you learned from Call of Duty and Twitter. Spare us the fantasy. You don’t want justice - you want to posture as an anti-Jew hero while real people die in a war you don’t understand and never will.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Spare me the melodrama. Asking where the line is implies you ever acknowledged one for Hamas. October 7 didn’t bother you enough to ask about lines then - no hand-wringing over rape, slaughtered babies, or Holocaust survivors dragged into tunnels. Now suddenly you're a moral philosopher? If Israel wanted every Palestinian dead, they wouldn't be issuing evacuation warnings or letting aid in - they’d carpet bomb Gaza into dust (a true carpet bomb). But you won’t admit that because your outrage is selective and your so-called "humanitarianism" evaporates when Jews defend themselves.

There’s no melodrama, other than in the response. Just questions.

Diverting on to what Hamas did on October 7th is to try to avoid answering. In fact their actions were universally condemned both here and elsewhere and still are.

That they needed to be responded to and for Israel to bolster their defences so there could be no repetition is not questioned.

It’s the scale and method of the response and the real purpose behind it, which are.

So I ask again. Please answer the questions. Where is the line drawn? Do you accept what Israel is doing without any qualification or criticism? When does it stop?

 

[georgenorman]

I'd say the biggest genocide since the Holocaust, which you refuse to accept, is pretty repulsive and shows your ignorance and IDF-loving mindset.

This has nothing to do with Jews or religion, this is to do with preserving life, but you only care about one side of that, clearly.

Really? What about Pol Pot to name but one.

 

[indianapalace85]

Really? What about Pol Pot to name but one.

True, but the scale of deaths look on course to be more, at the rate it's been at 21 months already.

Both atrocious. This one looks like there is no end in sight - or at least until every last Palestinian is smoking in their own ashes.

 

[indianapalace85]

No, you're far more intelligent and superior than me. You're a military genius and moral authority all rolled into one - from your command centre (aka your mum’s basement in Bromley). Obviously, you’d launch a flawless ground invasion, avoid all civilian casualties, dismantle a terror network hiding in schools and hospitals, and somehow do it all with zero war crimes - using tactics you learned from Call of Duty and Twitter. Spare us the fantasy. You don’t want justice - you want to posture as an anti-Jew hero while real people die in a war you don’t understand and never will.

So you mock that I'm superior and more intelligent, yet you claim your superiroty by saying I don't understand this war and never will - and you do?

I understand death vs life.

If you want to sugar coat your obvious bias, that's up to you.

Like I said before, I have no problem with my moral compass.
If you can seriously look in the mirror and claim that yours is on an equal footing, then good for you.

Otherwise you can't be taken seriously and your thoughts, as repulsive as they are, don't deserve the time of day.

 

[Penge Eagle]

There’s no melodrama, other than in the response. Just questions.

Diverting on to what Hamas did on October 7th is to try to avoid answering. In fact their actions were universally condemned both here and elsewhere and still are.

That they needed to be responded to and for Israel to bolster their defences so there could be no repetition is not questioned.

It’s the scale and method of the response and the real purpose behind it, which are.

So I ask again. Please answer the questions. Where is the line drawn? Do you accept what Israel is doing without any qualification or criticism? When does it stop?

It stops when a peace treaty is signed when Hamas surrender. The ICC will decide if war crimes are committed - not a bunch of football fans on a message board using BBC articles as evidence!

 

[Phil’s Barber]

You realise even the dissenters want Israel to take Hamas out too, don’t you?

It’s the rest of the Palestinian people being taken out with them that we’re concerned about.

I take it you did see the huge crowds of Palestinian people in Gaza celebrating the attacks of October 7? Celebrating the parading of the injured and wounded hostages and trying to attack them further?

I have no concern whatsoever with any of those being ‘taken out’ as you put it.

 

[indianapalace85]

It stops when a peace treaty is signed when Hamas surrender. The ICC will decide if war crimes are committed - not a bunch of football fans on a message board using BBC articles as evidence!

🤣 🤣 🤣

Oh..... and there it is!

So now it's the BBC that is being questioned.
So why is this not evidence, besides not fitting your agenda?

But the BBC also reported October 7th - so that can't be trusted either right? So evidence is only evidence when it suits you - but all other evidence isn't from the same source.

You really are something aren't you.

And WHEN the ICC declare war crimes are committed, what's your excuse going to be then?

I'm sure the BBC will report it? Or Reuters. Or if Sky do, I assume that's not evidence either.

Or, I assume your preference will be Netanyahu saying it's all lies - because that's also reliable, isn't it?

Idiot.

 

[Penge Eagle]

So you mock that I'm superior and more intelligent, yet you claim your superiroty by saying I don't understand this war and never will - and you do?

I understand death vs life.

If you want to sugar coat your obvious bias, that's up to you.

Like I said before, I have no problem with my moral compass.
If you can seriously look in the mirror and claim that yours is on an equal footing, then good for you.

Otherwise you can't be taken seriously and your thoughts, as repulsive as they are, don't deserve the time of day.

Yet you will continue replying to my posts! 😂