Israel v Hamas

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Yeah it's just the view of nearly every genocide scholar and human rights organisation in the world.

But they're all wrong, obviously.

Are you still peddling that?

We all know why all this is happening, and there's no point in taking sides beyond the fact that Israel is our ally against one of the most dangerous states on Earth.

 

[indianapalace85]

What a stupid question. Innocent lives lost is a tragic consequence of any war. Nobody likes to see this. We are yet to know the full details to make any verdict of why it happened and death toll etc. This war can end tomorrow if Hamas hands back the hostages and vows to lay down its weapons.

Ohhhh, the war ends tomorrow if the hostages are returned and they surrender?

Wow, you really think so?

Netanyahu couldn't even wait 2 hours before breaking the last ceasefire between them and Iran - so what makes you think he has any intention of stopping after the so-called hostages (most of whom have already been killed by the IDF and airstrikes) are returned?

 

[indianapalace85]

Are you still peddling that?

We all know why all this is happening, and there's no point in taking sides beyond the fact that Israel is our ally against one of the most dangerous states on Earth.

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Ah nothing like Hrolf arriving with his sensible approach.

Only in your f*cked up world and other people with no moral compass, consider Israel an ally.

Tell me incidentally...

Do you think the ICC are right to declare Putin has committed war crimes?
Do you think the ICC are right to declare Hamas have committed war crimes?

If the answer to both is yes, then do you think the ICC are right to declare Israel have committed war crimes?

 

[HKOwen]

It's not me that's superior.

It's everyone else that has no morality.

Cue everyone mentioning Oct 7th again and somewhow using that to justify everything since... Yawn.

That's actually very good if you were a parody account, perhaps you are.

I suspect it was accidental ironic comedy though.

Not that old Oct 7th chestnut again.......those Jews had it coming right?

It's a shame that plucky Hamas can't defeat the IDF, right?

Your morality is certainly specialand note worthy

There is no point even debating with an ideolog such as yourself.

 

[Penge Eagle]

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Ah nothing like Hrolf arriving with his sensible approach.

Only in your f*cked up world and other people with no moral compass, consider Israel an ally.

Tell me incidentally...

Do you think the ICC are right to declare Putin has committed war crimes?
Do you think the ICC are right to declare Hamas have committed war crimes?

If the answer to both is yes, then do you think the ICC are right to declare Israel have committed war crimes?

Your moral compass is through the lens of Karl Marx, so spare us any lectures about morality.

 

[indianapalace85]

That's actually very good if you were a parody account, perhaps you are.

I suspect it was accidental ironic comedy though.

Not that old Oct 7th chestnut again.......those Jews had it coming right?

It's a shame that plucky Hamas can't defeat the IDF, right?

Your morality is certainly specialand note worthy

There is no point even debating with an ideolog such as yourself.

I couldn't have said so better myself - thank you for proving my point and I claim my £5.

 

[Penge Eagle]

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Ah nothing like Hrolf arriving with his sensible approach.

Only in your f*cked up world and other people with no moral compass, consider Israel an ally.

Tell me incidentally...

Do you think the ICC are right to declare Putin has committed war crimes?
Do you think the ICC are right to declare Hamas have committed war crimes?

If the answer to both is yes, then do you think the ICC are right to declare Israel have committed war crimes?

The ICC has not declared Israel guilty of war crimes. That outcome would require a full trial, which hasn’t happened yet.

 

[indianapalace85]

Your moral compass is through the lens of Karl Marx, so spare us any lectures about morality.

You still up?

Thought you'd be celebrating the latest Palestinian massacre by now.

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll discover in no time that Hamas are hiding behind sharks and they were aiming for them, but just so happened to kill Palenstians, journalists and aid workers, all of whom are not allowed in the area.

Oh and not one Hamas victim in sight - funny that.

Be careful not to choke on your own morality hypocrisy.

 

[Penge Eagle]

You still up?

Thought you'd be celebrating the latest Palestinian massacre by now.

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll discover in no time that Hamas are hiding behind sharks and they were aiming for them, but just so happened to kill Palenstians, journalists and aid workers, all of whom are not allowed in the area.

Oh and not one Hamas victim in sight - funny that.

Be careful not to choke on your own morality hypocrisy.

"Oh and not one Hamas victim in sight". How do you know?

 

[indianapalace85]

The ICC has not declared Israel guilty of war crimes. That outcome would require a full trial, which hasn’t happened yet.

ICC issues arrest warrants for Israel, Hamas leadership: what happens next?

The decision by the International Criminal Court (ICC) to issue arrest warrants citing alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defence minister Yoav Gallant and Hamas commander Mohammed Deif, has led to huge interest in the court, and...

news.un.org

The ICC has issued an arrest warrant, citing war crimes which is the same they've issued Hamas.

So are they wrong to issue that to Hamas too?

 

[indianapalace85]

"Oh and not one Hamas victim in sight". How do you know?

I know because the IDF haven't even come out and justified it yet.

They normally spew out the same rhetiric of there being a Hamas target.

No, it's all just "collateral" as you call it.
Just another 20+ bodies onto the conveyor - what worthless lives they lead. How dare they.

 

[Penge Eagle]

ICC issues arrest warrants for Israel, Hamas leadership: what happens next?

The decision by the International Criminal Court (ICC) to issue arrest warrants citing alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defence minister Yoav Gallant and Hamas commander Mohammed Deif, has led to huge interest in the court, and...

news.un.org

The ICC has issued an arrest warrant, citing war crimes which is the same they've issued Hamas.

So are they wrong to issue that to Hamas too?

I never said they were right or wrong, I was simply correcting you on your false statement. I look forward to seeing the outcomes of both trials.

 

[Penge Eagle]

I know because the IDF haven't even come out and justified it yet.

They normally spew out the same rhetiric of there being a Hamas target.

No, it's all just "collateral" as you call it.
Just another 20+ bodies onto the conveyor - what worthless lives they lead. How dare they.

So you're not only a military expert who would have done a better job while in charge of the IDF.

You were able to be transported to Gaza and just happen to know the identities and backgrounds of every person who was killed and the reasons behind it. What's the lottery numbers?

 

[indianapalace85]

So you're not only a military expert who would have done a better job while in charge of the IDF.

You were able to be transported to Gaza and just happen to know the identities and backgrounds of every person who was killed and the reasons behind it. What's the lottery numbers?

If you want to go down the betting route, I'll bet everything dear to me that Israel/IDF won't be able to prove that any Hamas targets were killed and/or they did everything they could to avoid killing these victims in the process.

 

[Penge Eagle]

If you want to go down the betting route, I'll bet everything dear to me that Israel/IDF won't be able to prove that any Hamas targets were killed and/or they did everything they could to avoid killing these victims in the process.

What makes you so confident?

 

[indianapalace85]

What makes you so confident?

Because I've been paying close attention to multiple sources from day 1 and sifted through probability vs likelihood.

In other words, call it a pretty strong hunch based on everything I've seen before.

 

[cryrst]

Because I've been paying close attention to multiple sources from day 1 and sifted through probability vs likelihood.

In other words, call it a pretty strong hunch based on everything I've seen before.

A hunch eh! Mmmm.

 

[indianapalace85]

A hunch eh! Mmmm.

It's the same hunch that Netanyahu has that Hamas are lurking behind every Palestinian, aid worker or jounrnalist.

 

[HKOwen]

So you're not only a military expert who would have done a better job while in charge of the IDF.

You were able to be transported to Gaza and just happen to know the identities and backgrounds of every person who was killed and the reasons behind it. What's the lottery numbers?

He's what the offspring would be if Beak and Steeleye had a love child after a night of passion following a Kill the Jews pot luck dinner . Then was raised by Wisbech and CPFC Saturn, and whose only friend at school was DanH.

 

[cryrst]

It's the same hunch that Netanyahu has that Hamas are lurking behind every Palestinian, aid worker or jounrnalist.

But his is probably more likely to be correct than yours !