NHS reform

[cryrst]

I don’t know a lot about how it works but even our holer down in Cornwall states about the wastage in the NHS. This is a move to try and cut that out.
Be interesting to read from people with experience on it. Hopefully it’s not a labour gimmick as I know it needs reform so every doctors appointment isn’t gone by 8.05 am !!!!

 

[Badger11]

I doubt anyone will shed tears for the loss of NHS England it's what comes next that concerns me.

Will Starmer instigate genuine reform or is this simply re-branding?

Apparently 10,000 bureaucrats will lose their jobs, will they or will they be absorbed into the Civil Service.

I honestly don't know I hope that we get a leaner more efficient and nimble health service. However I doubt that there is anyone with the intellect or courage to fight the vested interests.

 

[steeleye20]

Before 2010 and the tories I didn't have to think of the NHS I was able to see a doctor or dentist promptly often same day.

The duplication, interminable delays and bureaucracy are Cameron and Lansley's legacy.

I am a critic of the labour government but not in this respect.

There is no truer saying in politics than 'you can't trust the tories on the NHS'.

😎

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

10,000 bureaucrats will lose their jobs

And benefits are being cut, so they'll have to do something. Perhaps fruit picking, as the Summer draws nearer

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I doubt anyone will shed tears for the loss of NHS England it's what comes next that concerns me.

Will Starmer instigate genuine reform or is this simply re-branding?

Apparently 10,000 bureaucrats will lose their jobs, will they or will they be absorbed into the Civil Service.

I honestly don't know I hope that we get a leaner more efficient and nimble health service. However I doubt that there is anyone with the intellect or courage to fight the vested interests.

The real jobs will still need doing so some will surely be absorbed. It’s such a huge organisation that trying to manage it efficiently at the same time as it expands because of new treatments and demand increases because of social and other pressures must be next to impossible.

A blame culture is also partly responsible. The need for recording everything and then checking and rechecking diverts resources and frustrates those whose desire is to help. Of course people need to be held to account but the pendulum has swung so far that it is creating problems rather than solving them.

My wife is part of a team of over 50 nurses in a unit in our local hospital, who together with the doctors and support staff, provide a wonderful service of which they are justifiably very proud. However over 50% of her time is spent on administration and not on the face to face care she is so skilled at providing. Behind the scenes there are dozens of administrators too, making and changing bookings alongside all the equipment servicing, supplies, accounting etc.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

More gimmicky nonsense that will achieve absolutely nothing.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The latest pathetic effort to attack Reform by Starmer is to claim he wants to dismantle the NHS.
He knows full well that the NHS is a disaster. It is no longer serving the public as it should.

Putting aside the impact mass immigration is having on the service, it is obvious that there has to be a total reform that involves some people paying where they are able. Labour will deny this to the detriment of those who need treatment and find that what is available is disorganised, delayed and inadequate.

Can Labour sink much lower?

 

[Badger11]

I think we can all agree with the new head of the NHS.

"The NHS has built 'mechanisms to keep the public away' as patients are seen as an 'inconvenience', its new boss has said."

NHS keeps public away and patients seen as 'inconvenience', says boss

Sir Jim Mackey, who was made chief executive of NHS England on March 31, has publicly criticised the health service for often being 'deaf' to criticism and retaining 'fossilised' methods of working.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Too bloody right. I was recently referred for an ultrasound scan after 2 months of hearing nothing I called the clinic and was told yes we have your request but it's in a pile of not giving out appointments just yet.

In other words I don't show up on the metrics for patient must be seen in x number of weeks. It's the same with ambulances parked outside A&E until they drop the patient off the clock doesn't start ticking so don't let em in.

Now let's see what he will do about it.

 

[becky]

I think we can all agree with the new head of the NHS.

"The NHS has built 'mechanisms to keep the public away' as patients are seen as an 'inconvenience', its new boss has said."

NHS keeps public away and patients seen as 'inconvenience', says boss

Sir Jim Mackey, who was made chief executive of NHS England on March 31, has publicly criticised the health service for often being 'deaf' to criticism and retaining 'fossilised' methods of working.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Too bloody right. I was recently referred for an ultrasound scan after 2 months of hearing nothing I called the clinic and was told yes we have your request but it's in a pile of not giving out appointments just yet.

In other words I don't show up on the metrics for patient must be seen in x number of weeks. It's the same with ambulances parked outside A&E until they drop the patient off the clock doesn't start ticking so don't let em in.

Now let's see what he will do about it.

The other modern trend, which even a couple of the GP's at the local surgery agree with, is that the NHS in general has stopped treating patients, and rather treats test results.

You never see the same GP twice, so have no ongoing relationship with them and if you do get to see one they usually just order tests or pass you on to the appropriate hospital department who can.

If (like me) you have several complex conditions, you need to be very alert that they have actually looked at your file - not just their department's bit - Twice whilst in hospital I have had to point out to a doctor that what he is proposing as treatment for the condition he is dealing with will probably kill me from one of the others!

I know Dr.s hate people who read up on the internet, but sometimes it does pay dividends.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The other modern trend, which even a couple of the GP's at the local surgery agree with, is that the NHS in general has stopped treating patients, and rather treats test results.

You never see the same GP twice, so have no ongoing relationship with them and if you do get to see one they usually just order tests or pass you on to the appropriate hospital department who can.

If (like me) you have several complex conditions, you need to be very alert that they have actually looked at your file - not just their department's bit - Twice whilst in hospital I have had to point out to a doctor that what he is proposing as treatment for the condition he is dealing with will probably kill me from one of the others!

I know Dr.s hate people who read up on the internet, but sometimes it does pay dividends.

Good advice.

100 percent this.

People shouldn't sleep upon the realities of a service that has been destroyed by unrealistic ideology.....and an immigration policy that ignores the 'national' element of the service.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The other modern trend, which even a couple of the GP's at the local surgery agree with, is that the NHS in general has stopped treating patients, and rather treats test results.

You never see the same GP twice, so have no ongoing relationship with them and if you do get to see one they usually just order tests or pass you on to the appropriate hospital department who can.

If (like me) you have several complex conditions, you need to be very alert that they have actually looked at your file - not just their department's bit - Twice whilst in hospital I have had to point out to a doctor that what he is proposing as treatment for the condition he is dealing with will probably kill me from one of the others!

I know Dr.s hate people who read up on the internet, but sometimes it does pay dividends.

I guess I am lucky but our surgery insists on me seeing my own GP for everything non urgent, for exactly the reasons you describe. He knows my history, my interests and lifestyle as well as my medical needs. He knows what’s possible and what isn’t. I have a similar relationship with the hospital consultant who deals with my cancer.

I am though a determined and persistent individual who fights my corner, if ever I need to, to make sure nothing is overlooked. Not aggressive or rude. Just very positive.

 

[Midlands Eagle]

I was recently referred for an ultrasound scan after 2 months of hearing nothing I called the clinic and was told yes we have your request but it's in a pile of not giving out appointments just yet.

That is unfortunate. At the tail end of last year I was at the local hospital chatting to my consultant when I happened to mention that my leg had swollen up which was a concern as I was due to fly on holiday in a couple of weeks. He said that I should have a blood test followed by an ultrasound to rule out deep vein thrombosis. He made a couple of calls and I had the blood test within half an hour followed by the ultrasound half an hour later

 

[beak]

Wes Streeting has started a war on supermarkets and their promotion of junk food whatever is written here he is not a natural parliamentarian and has the mindset to move things along,he made a point about the very low sales of sweet potatoes a much healthier option.

 

[georgenorman]

I guess I am lucky but our surgery insists on me seeing my own GP for everything non urgent, for exactly the reasons you describe. He knows my history, my interests and lifestyle as well as my medical needs. He knows what’s possible and what isn’t. I have a similar relationship with the hospital consultant who deals with my cancer.

I am though a determined and persistent individual who fights my corner, if ever I need to, to make sure nothing is overlooked. Not aggressive or rude. Just very positive.

Perhaps he or she is the only one that will put up with you.

 

[becky]

Wes Streeting has started a war on supermarkets and their promotion of junk food whatever is written here he is not a natural parliamentarian and has the mindset to move things along,he made a point about the very low sales of sweet potatoes a much healthier option.

Healthier, but also a more expensive option, and not (until the last few years) a vegetable that your average Brit would consider eating. King Edwards and Maris Pipe Rule!

 

[Eagleman13]

Healthier, but also a more expensive option, and not (until the last few years) a vegetable that your average Brit would consider eating. King Edwards and Maris Pipe Rule!

Agreed, KE for baking, also mash when you take the insides out of skins nom nom & roasties, Maris for roasties & chips, BUT, Yukon Gold . . . OMG, Awesome. Hardly any starch, holds shape, mmm

 

[beak]

Healthier, but also a more expensive option, and not (until the last few years) a vegetable that your average Brit would consider eating. King Edwards and Maris Pipe Rule!

I thought about this for some time and had a lightbulb moment,the more you shift of a product the cheaper it becomes the first light bulbs cost a week's wages but as they caught on the cheaper they became hopefully healthy food will do the same.

 

[becky]

I thought about this for some time and had a lightbulb moment,the more you shift of a product the cheaper it becomes the first light bulbs cost a week's wages but as they caught on the cheaper they became hopefully healthy food will do the same.

Problem is that the more popular they become, the more they have to be imported to meet the demand, so I don't think the price will drop too much.

Not really suitable for a 'mass' crop in the UK climate, they still mainly need to be grown under protective cover, although I gather they are working to produce hardier varieties.

 

[DanH]

Perhaps he or she is the only one that will put up with you.

Do you get kicks out of being deeply unpleasant or can you just not help it?

 

[georgenorman]

Do you get kicks out of being deeply unpleasant or can you just not help it?

I merely try to point out what is in front of our noses.