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Immigration

ASCPFC said:
In fairness, Microsoft are wankers though aren't they. Windows, Teams and Office are f***ing s***
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In fairness I agree.

I often have software issues with Microsoft the last thing I do is look at their help website it's awful it is mainly full of people with the same complaint as mine and no sensible solution from the Microsoft experts.

So I use 3rd party website to solve Microsoft problems how s*** is that.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You are so naive it beggars belief!
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They only come because they know they will receive the benefits, it is obvious who is naive if you think otherwise. But of course, you don't think otherwise, you know full well, it's just your usual masquerade.
 
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Hrolf The Ganger said:
Says that, and then posts from the BBC.

I don't read the Daily Mail Spin Boy.

Labour cancelled the one deterrent in place and have seen migrant numbers surge.
By ditching Rwanda, they have caused massive problems in Northern Ireland and opened the floodgates to spongers from everywhere.
They have achieved nothing visible in stopping the boats.

How is Farage responsible for their uselessness? He has helped expose the extent of the problem.
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What complete shite. Rwanda? You're having a laugh.

Didn't we deport 1 person in the end for about £60m or something? Such a deterrent 🤣
 
Spindle said:
What complete shite. Rwanda? You're having a laugh.

Didn't we deport 1 person in the end for about £60m or something? Such a deterrent 🤣
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We will never know, but, when it was being rolled out there was an exodus of illegals thru N.I to Eire as they belived the were at risk, so for some it was a deterrent
 
Spindle said:
What complete shite. Rwanda? You're having a laugh.

Didn't we deport 1 person in the end for about £60m or something? Such a deterrent 🤣
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That is totally disingenuous.

The policy was never allowed to prove its worth and would have just been the beginning.
There is clear evidence that migrants took the threat of deportation to Rwanda seriously.

A third destination has always been the obvious solution, that I was talking a long time before anyone mentioned Rwanda.
If people cannot be returned home, and we don't want them here, then what other option is there?
 
beak said:
The xenophobia on here disgusts me. anything is better than the Rwanda scheme that cost£700 million and did not produce a thing. No wonder keir is P.M. in place of the waste of time tories who are now deserting in droves tonitwit Nigel who cannot keep his bank account at 440 Strand. 😉
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When is he going to usher in the Socialist Utopia?
 
georgenorman said:
They only come because they know they will receive the benefits, it is obvious who is naive if you think otherwise. But of course, you don't think otherwise, you know full well, it's just your usual masquerade.
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If you think people would travel thousands of miles, risking their own, and their family’s, lives simply so they can draw benefits then you are well beyond naive.

That they have lied to by the traffickers about the opportunities that await them is certainly true but not that they can just do nothing and live on benefits. It’s us who don’t allow them to work and then support them whilst we process applications.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If you think people would travel thousands of miles, risking their own, and their family’s, lives simply so they can draw benefits then you are well beyond naive.

That they have lied to by the traffickers about the opportunities that await them is certainly true but not that they can just do nothing and live on benefits. It’s us who don’t allow them to work and then support them whilst we process applications.
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If they were given nothing, within a few weeks they would stop coming.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
That is totally disingenuous.

The policy was never allowed to prove its worth and would have just been the beginning.
There is clear evidence that migrants took the threat of deportation to Rwanda seriously.

A third destination has always been the obvious solution, that I was talking a long time before anyone mentioned Rwanda.
If people cannot be returned home, and we don't want them here, then what other option is there?
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I wasn't a fan of the Rwanda solution however you have a point. Due to Tory party incompetence and the Uman Rights lawyers it ran out of time before the election so was never really started.

I guess if only one person was ever sent to Rwanda but that deterred thousands more you could argue that he cost the taxpayer ££££. I would argue that it was worth the cost because of the impact. Anyway it's a moot point.

What we do know is the numbers coming are rising.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
If you think people would travel thousands of miles, risking their own, and their family’s, lives simply so they can draw benefits then you are well beyond naive.

That they have lied to by the traffickers about the opportunities that await them is certainly true but not that they can just do nothing and live on benefits. It’s us who don’t allow them to work and then support them whilst we process applications.
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Some come to take over control of the drug trade. The arrest rate for Albanians in the UK is more than 17 times higher than the rate for British citizens at 200 + per 1000 compared to 12.
 
georgenorman said:
If they were given nothing, within a few weeks they would stop coming.
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They just wouldn’t.

They wouldn’t know it had been stopped and even if they did would still come. They would either then just disappear into the black economy, be supported by charities or turn to crime. We would be seen to be failing our Treaty obligations and come under international pressure to restore them or risk sanctions.

If it was that simple it would have been done years ago.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
They just wouldn’t.

They wouldn’t know it had been stopped and even if they did would still come. They would either then just disappear into the black economy, be supported by charities or turn to crime. We would be seen to be failing our Treaty obligations and come under international pressure to restore them or risk sanctions.

If it was that simple it would have been done years ago.
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There would be no motive to come here, they could stay in France and and do whatever you think they would do.
 
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