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Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

Jacey said:
Agree,totally devastating and seemingly,little chance of any European football next season.
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I imagine we'd all already assumed this was the case though, otherwise Textor wouldn't have been talking about selling his stake?

I think we knew that either Textor had to offload his share or Lyon had to be relegated for financial infringements...
 
Foxy82 said:
The blind trust wasn't ever realistically going to be an option at this point, as the deadline was 2 months ago. There's nothing new to ascertain from this article, and we can only presume Parish and the rest knew this when they popped over to Nyom to discuss alternative possibilities?
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And the alternatives are? either convince uefa that Textor has no real significance in decision making (seems like it a losing battle given his 45% stake & a youth player going to Lyon etc) or… we complete a lighting fast buy out of his share before the 17th June when the group stage draw takes place
 
viapalace said:
And the alternatives are? either convince uefa that Textor has no real significance in decision making (seems like it a losing battle given his 45% stake & a youth player going to Lyon etc) or… we complete a lighting fast buy out of his share before the 17th June when the group stage draw takes place
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I guess so
 
If we get kicked and Brighton get in, I’ll find it hard to get back into football to be honest. Talk about a gut punch after a football high the last few weeks.

I wouldn’t accept the Conference League either. We have qualified for the Europa league. Say Palace and Lyon can’t do transfers between each other this year and let us play it.

Stop over complicating things because it’s little Palace. You wouldn’t kick City or United out of your competition.

Bloody sick of it.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
We should beware of inaccurate reporting.

There's a lot of it about.
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Agreed... As much as that article may make for a depressing read its not actually telling us anything new.
Putting JT shares into a blind trust was never an option as the deadline was several months ago and the reason the owners went out to meet UEFA wasn't to ask about the blind trust option.

Add to that the fact there's no official statement from UEFA and then essentially all this article is, is another sensationalist piece of journalism designed to get clicks.
 
The only direct quotes I've seen in relation to the meeting are from Textor.

If Palace supplied the information to satisfy the requirements at the meeting then one assumes it would be a rubber stamping exercise with us confirmed in the draw.

The fact that there's a delay indicates that either the authorities are making more investigations, or Palace are being given a certain amount of time to comply with the necessary requirements to be granted entry.

I admit I'm only speculating, but I have a bad feeling about this.

The thing is before the two 5 goal defeats , Glasner was talking about two routes to Europe- the Cup and possible league placing.

Did nobody at the club see the ownership structure as a problem if we were seriously contemplating a European place?
 
PatrickA said:
The only direct quotes I've seen in relation to the meeting are from Textor.

If Palace supplied the information to satisfy the requirements at the meeting then one assumes it would be a rubber stamping exercise with us confirmed in the draw.

The fact that there's a delay indicates that either the authorities are making more investigations, or Palace are being given a certain amount of time to comply with the necessary requirements to be granted entry.

I admit I'm only speculating, but I have a bad feeling about this.

The thing is before the two 5 goal defeats , Glasner was talking about two routes to Europe- the Cup and possible league placing.

Did nobody at the club see the ownership structure as a problem if we were seriously contemplating a European place?
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That's an interesting conspiracy. We lost both those games to avoid Europe because we knew we'd b*llocksed up the paperwork? You're on to something there. Dean Henderson was trying to get sent off in the final and accidentally dived in front of a penalty too.
 
Part Time James said:
That's an interesting conspiracy. We lost both those games to avoid Europe because we knew we'd b*llocksed up the paperwork? You're on to something there. Dean Henderson was trying to get sent off in the final and accidentally dived in front of a penalty too.
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I don't mean it as a conspiracy.
The club recognised that it had the best chance of European football in quite a while via even the cup or a high league placing.
You would assume appropriate planning would have taken place, but everybody makes mistakes or can misunderstand applicable rules.
 
It looks unlikely we will be playing in the Europa League as things stand. A few comments blaming UEFA but honestly this is just bad planning on the club’s part. The rules are there in black and white and everyone knew the deadline for putting shares in a blind trust. saying Textor has no influence is just not realistic. It would be absolutely gutting to miss out but how would we feel if UEFA bent the rules for another club and we missed out. The whole thing is just so Palace. Even when actually winning something we manage to snatch defeat from it
 
PatrickA said:
The only direct quotes I've seen in relation to the meeting are from Textor.

If Palace supplied the information to satisfy the requirements at the meeting then one assumes it would be a rubber stamping exercise with us confirmed in the draw.

The fact that there's a delay indicates that either the authorities are making more investigations, or Palace are being given a certain amount of time to comply with the necessary requirements to be granted entry.

I admit I'm only speculating, but I have a bad feeling about this.

The thing is before the two 5 goal defeats , Glasner was talking about two routes to Europe- the Cup and possible league placing.

Did nobody at the club see the ownership structure as a problem if we were seriously contemplating a European place?
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Palace’s main argument, which is a valid one in my opinion, is that Textor does not have control of the club.

There should be evidence of this in the clubs constitutional documents. To include minuted Board meetings .

It’s certainly been in the public domain that Textor has been unhappy that his share holding has not given him the control he desires.

It would explain why the situation has not been addressed albeit it would appear to be too late to go down the Blind Trust route.

My assumption is that the matter is now in the hands of UEFA’s lawyers as they consider Palace’s argument.

I still think we’ll be ok
 
NEILLO said:
Palace’s main argument, which is a valid one in my opinion, is that Textor does not have control of the club.

There should be evidence of this in the clubs constitutional documents. To include minuted Board meetings .

It’s certainly been in the public domain that Textor has been unhappy that his share holding has not given him the control he desires.

It would explain why the situation has not been addressed albeit it would appear to be too late to go down the Blind Trust route.

My assumption is that the matter is now in the hands of UEFA’s lawyers as they consider Palace’s argument.

I still think we’ll be ok
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I hope you're right, but it's not just control, it's also 'significant influence. '

If Textor has around 40% of the shares and 25% of the voting rights as well as supposedly being heavily involved in the appointment of Glasner, it may be difficult to demonstrate that the influence is insignificant.
 
Whatever UEFA end up deciding, it's shambolic that this is even a debate.

This multi-club shite has been hanging round our necks for years and nothing has been done to sort it out.

The Liverpool fiasco in 1991 was the beginning of the end of that team. We might be about to repeat the trick but this time the board would have no-one to blame but themselves.
 
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