Judges & the ECHR

[Spiderman]

What is there to work out? That Judges can read how other cases were decided and be guided by them? That non Judges can read them too and form opinions on them? Facts being a different matter. In this instance only a verbatim account of the whole judgement being fact.

The BBC cannot be anything other than unbiased.

What is there to work out? Read that comment in the context of my post, I will help you…it has been seen! I can say no more.
Of course they can.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Here we go.

Britain's only trans judge to challenge the ruling on women being only biological women in the ECHR.

No bias there then.

The ECHR is full of liberal delusionals, so expect some sort of reversal.

Once again, a tiny minority and foreign judges trying to tell us how to run our country.

Time to end this absurdity.

UK’s first trans judge appeals to European court of human rights over supreme court ruling

Victoria McCloud brings action against UK for infringement of her human rights after ruling on biological sex

www.theguardian.com

 

[Matov]

Here we go.

Britain's only trans judge to challenge the ruling on women being only biological women in the ECHR.

No bias there then.

The ECHR is full of liberal delusionals, so expect some sort of reversal.

Once again, a tiny minority and foreign judges trying to tell us how to run our country.

Time to end this absurdity.

UK’s first trans judge appeals to European court of human rights over supreme court ruling

Victoria McCloud brings action against UK for infringement of her human rights after ruling on biological sex

www.theguardian.com

Although always ready to expect the worst from the ECHR, suspect they will not actually rule against the UK Supreme Court on this. The entire Trans madness was primarily an Anglo Project that, by and large, seems to have not really taking hold amongst our friends on the Continet.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Although always ready to expect the worst from the ECHR, suspect they will not actually rule against the UK Supreme Court on this. The entire Trans madness was primarily an Anglo Project that, by and large, seems to have not really taking hold amongst our friends on the Continet.

I hope not, but they shouldn't be involved in any case.

This judge should be struck off for putting her agenda above the common good.

I'm happy for her to live as a woman, but that doesn't mean she or anyone else trans is in reality.

 

[Matov]

I hope not, but they shouldn't be involved in any case.

Amen to that.

 

[cryrst]

Here we go.

Britain's only trans judge to challenge the ruling on women being only biological women in the ECHR.

No bias there then.

The ECHR is full of liberal delusionals, so expect some sort of reversal.

Once again, a tiny minority and foreign judges trying to tell us how to run our country.

Time to end this absurdity.

UK’s first trans judge appeals to European court of human rights over supreme court ruling

Victoria McCloud brings action against UK for infringement of her human rights after ruling on biological sex

www.theguardian.com

If he had his dick cut off and folded to a Fanny then a ladies toilet and shower is more than needed and fair play for going all the way. Biology is somewhat bypassed for that imo. If he tucks his dick between his legs he’s a biological fella.
Not difficult really !!!

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

If he had his dick cut off and folded to a Fanny then a ladies toilet and shower is more than needed and fair play for going all the way. Biology is somewhat bypassed for that imo. If he tucks his dick between his legs he’s a biological fella.
Not difficult really !!!

Not quite that simple. 🙂

 

[cryrst]

Not quite that simple. 🙂

Well that’s just my opinion but I would roll with it being like that. Why complicate things 🤔

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Well that’s just my opinion but I would roll with it being like that. Why complicate things 🤔

I don't think you can become a woman just by cutting your bits off, slapping on a wig and taking a few hormones. Call me old fashioned if you like.

Would you date a trans?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Here we go.

Britain's only trans judge to challenge the ruling on women being only biological women in the ECHR.

No bias there then.

The ECHR is full of liberal delusionals, so expect some sort of reversal.

Once again, a tiny minority and foreign judges trying to tell us how to run our country.

Time to end this absurdity.

UK’s first trans judge appeals to European court of human rights over supreme court ruling

Victoria McCloud brings action against UK for infringement of her human rights after ruling on biological sex

www.theguardian.com

What’s the big deal here?

Someone who must know much more than any of us what it is like actually being transgender, who also knows the law better than any of us, has decided to ask a specialist court to rule on whether their rights have been infringed. That’s their prerogative. What the government will need to do should they be found guilty of infringement is another matter entirely.

 

[cryrst]

I don't think you can become a woman just by cutting your bits off, slapping on a wig and taking a few hormones. Call me old fashioned if you like.

Would you date a trans?

I never said it would make a man into a woman. I said if they had gone full sex change it’s hardly a fad and they, imo should be able to share womens spaces. I wouldn’t put them in the trans bracket which is a bloke in a dress! They ordinarily would be hardly to no threat and probably feel as embarrassed and angry about a pretend woman being in their space as a biological woman would.
And yes if they were full change, why not, and if you see beauty in men then you will see beauty in a full change person.
Trans has been hijacked in place of transvestite instead of transition.
That’s the main issue.

 

[cryrst]

What’s the big deal here?

Someone who must know much more than any of us what it is like actually being transgender, who also knows the law better than any of us, has decided to ask a specialist court to rule on whether their rights have been infringed. That’s their prerogative. What the government will need to do should they be found guilty of infringement is another matter entirely.

Wissies read my post above so do you agree a bloke in a dress is not a trans.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I never said it would make a man into a woman. I said if they had gone full sex change it’s hardly a fad and they, imo should be able to share womens spaces. I wouldn’t put them in the trans bracket which is a bloke in a dress! They ordinarily would be hardly to no threat and probably feel as embarrassed and angry about a pretend woman being in their space as a biological woman would.
And yes if they were full change, why not, and if you see beauty in men then you will see beauty in a full change person.
Trans has been hijacked in place of transvestite instead of transition.
That’s the main issue.

I hear you, but I cannot be persuaded that someone who is born a man can become a woman and therefore be accepted as a woman by law. That is completely irrational.
What matters is how we treat trans. Women generally don't want transitioned men in their safe spaces. That is good enough for me. I consider the rights of 30 plus million women to be more important than the rights of a couple of hundred thousand trans. The needs of the many...

Transitioning is a choice. You know what it would mean. If you choose to do so, then it is only reasonable to expect that you will be considered a separate category. As a society, we must cater proportionately for this, but not to the detriment of women.

 

[cryrst]

I hear you, but I cannot be persuaded that someone who is born a man can become a woman and therefore be accepted as a woman by law. That is completely irrational.
What matters is how we treat trans. Women generally don't want transitioned men in their safe spaces. That is good enough for me. I consider the rights of 30 plus million women to be more important than the rights of a couple of hundred thousand trans. The needs of the many...

Transitioning is a choice. You know what it would mean. If you choose to do so, then it is only reasonable to expect that you will be considered a separate category. As a society, we must cater proportionately for this, but not to the detriment of women.

I don’t think transitioned men into women full on, all in, are what this is about.
Again a man can never be a biological woman agreed. The trans issue is I feel about blokes in dresses with all the bits still attached. Not full transitioned men.
That was my line about the difference being transvestite and transitioned.
The trans word has been hijacked and no one has made the link on this to peoples feelings about it. There is a full transitioned man on the history channel who is now woman looking and sounding. A bit different to a boy George effort clearly. This judge needs to make that distinction in their case at the ECHR. They won’t though as the cancellation from geezers in dresses will be too costly.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wissies read my post above so do you agree a bloke in a dress is not a trans.

If you, or I, heaven forbid, wore a dress no.

If someone who feels and acts feminine then yes. They are female in every way except the physical.

 

[georgenorman]

If you, or I, heaven forbid, wore a dress no.

If someone who feels and acts feminine then yes. They are female in every way except the physical.

I very much doubt it - most females have far more sense. You might as well say that someone who dresses, feels and acts as Napoleon Bonaparte is Emperor of the French in every way expect the physical.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If you, or I, heaven forbid, wore a dress no.

If someone who feels and acts feminine then yes. They are female in every way except the physical.

What would the attitude be if a twenty-year old identified as someone who's eighty? Would he genuinely know what it's like to be sixty years older?

 

[Spiderman]

What’s the big deal here?

Someone who must know much more than any of us what it is like actually being transgender, who also knows the law better than any of us, has decided to ask a specialist court to rule on whether their rights have been infringed. That’s their prerogative. What the government will need to do should they be found guilty of infringement is another matter entirely.

Funny isn’t it, some Supreme Court rulings are gospel and should not be challenged, as they know best. But you feel this one can be challenged, why is that?

 

[Spiderman]

If you, or I, heaven forbid, wore a dress no.

If someone who feels and acts feminine then yes. They are female in every way except the physical.

I totally disagree with you and I am not female. perhaps they are gay but have jumped on a bandwagon!

 

[ASCPFC]

Although always ready to expect the worst from the ECHR, suspect they will not actually rule against the UK Supreme Court on this. The entire Trans madness was primarily an Anglo Project that, by and large, seems to have not really taking hold amongst our friends on the Continet.

You're not taking into account the obvious dislike of Brexit and trying to hassle Britain at every opportunity.