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US Politics

As a long time investor I heard the news of Trump imposing tariffs and realised this was a death wish, American markets are tumbling again.The danger is that trade will doubtless continue without future U.S participation. Meanwhile my 3i shares continue to prosper, they have been thetop Ftse performer for many years.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Not what I meant and the inference is all yours but have it your way, since you will anyway.
China restrained the virus in all respects.
And it was all Trump's fault anyway.
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It was you who got on the high horse to claim that you write what you mean! When very clearly you didn’t. It’s not “my” way at all. It’s just the way it is. For someone who gets precious about others acknowledging their errors you seem incapable of doing so yourself.

Did China restrain the virus? I thought they were overwhelmed by it.

Trump, so far as we know, had nothing to do with it. It seems unlikely he would have done. It might suit his ultimate purpose of trying to disrupt the Chinese rise to dominance but he is no chess player.
 
eaglesdare said:
They don't call it the China virus for nothing 🤪

Anyways looks like the stock market is rebounding 🤣 all it took was for countries to get their act together and initiate trade talks.

The tariff approach is the same as with Mexico and Canada. We already seen it play out so no surprises with the 90 days extension and what's happened today.
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No “they” don’t!

“They” call it that to pour criticism on the country “they” fear the most.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
When you “unleash” anything it’s a deliberate act. If it was an accident it would be an escape.

When I unleash my dog it’s me in control. If he pulls the lead from my hand it’s him.

Thus your choice of words did infer an intentional act, despite your denials and protests.

That you seem to think otherwise is unfortunate but doesn’t change the meaning of words.

From the Cambridge dictionary:-

“to let happen or begin something powerful that, once begun, cannot be controlled“.
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Not seeing deliberate in that definition.

Unleashing can be decidedly unintentional as well.

The BBC (who as we know you believe can do no wrong) regularly describe storms as “unleashed” or “unleashing hell”

So who is responsble for those?

And you can entirely unleash hell by accident.
 
Nutmegyeti said:
Not seeing deliberate in that definition.

Unleashing can be decidedly unintentional as well.

The BBC (who as we know you believe can do no wrong) regularly describe storms as “unleashed” or “unleashing hell”

So who is responsble for those?

And you can entirely unleash hell by accident.
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It could be but wasn’t in the context it was used. Which was “And if their quiet diplomatic dignity doesn't work they can always unleash another virus”. Which infers a deliberate release.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It was you who got on the high horse to claim that you write what you mean! When very clearly you didn’t. It’s not “my” way at all. It’s just the way it is. For someone who gets precious about others acknowledging their errors you seem incapable of doing so yourself.

Did China restrain the virus? I thought they were overwhelmed by it.

Trump, so far as we know, had nothing to do with it. It seems unlikely he would have done. It might suit his ultimate purpose of trying to disrupt the Chinese rise to dominance but he is no chess player.
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It might help if you understood the difference between implication and inference; in this case there was none of the first and all of the second. And all on your part.
No; China did not restrain the virus. That was the point but never mind.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
It could be but wasn’t in the context it was used. Which was “And if their quiet diplomatic dignity doesn't work they can always unleash another virus”. Which infers a deliberate release.
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As usual your self imposed contextualisation allows free license for you to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and vigorously beat around the bush with it.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
It might help if you understood the difference between implication and inference; in this case there was none of the first and all of the second. And all on your part.
No; China did not restrain the virus. That was the point but never mind.
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Strange claim that because every reference I have seen suggests that they are synonymous. Often the first suggestion, as here:-

Merriam-Webster:- “Synonyms for IMPLICATION: inference, suggestion, indication, clue, message, allusion, hint, cue ”

So you are not only arguing with me, but with the dictionaries. Maybe you would like to take it up, and correct, them!

I understand what synonyms are. Do you?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Strange claim that because every reference I have seen suggests that they are synonymous. Often the first suggestion, as here:-

Merriam-Webster:- “Synonyms for IMPLICATION: inference, suggestion, indication, clue, message, allusion, hint, cue ”

So you are not only arguing with me, but with the dictionaries. Maybe you would like to take it up, and correct, them!

I understand what synonyms are. Do you?
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Wrong again.
"Imply" means to suggest something indirectly, while "infer" means to draw a conclusion or make an educated guess based on that indirect suggestion. Think of "imply" as the action of the speaker, and "infer" as the action of the listener/reader.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
As usual your self imposed contextualisation allows free license for you to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and vigorously beat around the bush with it.
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The words you wrote speak for themselves, no matter how much wriggling and obscurantism you attempt. They don’t mean what you now claim you intended to say.

As there are much more important things going on in the world, and in my own life, than yet another exchange like this, I will leave it there. If you truly cannot see, or refuse to admit, your error by now then you aren’t going to. So I will waste no more time.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
The words you wrote speak for themselves, no matter how much wriggling and obscurantism you attempt. They don’t mean what you now claim you intended to say.

As there are much more important things going on in the world, and in my own life, than yet another exchange like this, I will leave it there. If you truly cannot see, or refuse to admit, your error by now then you aren’t going to. So I will waste no more time.
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Great. I shall take your heartfelt apology as implied.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Wrong again.
"Imply" means to suggest something indirectly, while "infer" means to draw a conclusion or make an educated guess based on that indirect suggestion. Think of "imply" as the action of the speaker, and "infer" as the action of the listener/reader.
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Go argue with the dictionaries. In the meantime I am perfectly content for you to use either word. Both work in the context of the point made. Which was that you inferred/implied that the release was deliberate.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Go argue with the dictionaries. In the meantime I am perfectly content for you to use either word. Both work in the context of the point made. Which was that you inferred/implied that the release was deliberate.
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Er, no.

www.dictionary.com

"Imply" vs. "Infer": Learn The Difference

No need to read between the lines—this useful guide clearly explains the difference between "imply" and "infer" and how to use them.
www.dictionary.com www.dictionary.com
 
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