US Politics

[Stirlingsays]

What Musk highlights here is a harsh fact about most governments. Their systems are outdated and run by too many 'jobworths' and incompetents who don't care about efficiency and only care about picking up their wages at the end of the month.

If a private business doesn't run well it's far more likely to go out of business but when the taxpayer is picking up the tab people take advantage.

Talent like Musk has been a godsend for government......and governments around the world will be taking note.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1907083809142534291

 

[Penge Eagle]

What the media (and other remainers on here) won't dare mention is that Trump's tariffs are another Brexit win! The UK has been imposed with 10% and the EU 20%. 🙂

 

[CPFCSaturn]

What Musk highlights here is a harsh fact about most governments. Their systems are outdated and run by too many 'jobworths' and incompetents who don't care about efficiency and only care about picking up their wages at the end of the month.

If a private business world doesn't run well it's far more likely to go out of business but when the taxpayer is picking up the tab people take advantage.

Talent like Musk has been a godsend for government......and governments around the world will be taking note.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1907083809142534291

They won't, because most governments are inefficient and 'wasteful' by design.

 

[Penge Eagle]

They won't, because most governments are inefficient and 'wasteful' by design.

Which is why the smaller the government, the better.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Which is why the smaller the government, the better.

Up to a point, I agree - certainly what we have now is bloated beyond reason.

But as I said, it's all by design - being 'wasteful' with public money is no concern for government as it usually lands in a mates bank account.

 

[georgenorman]

It makes us less competitive and the EU even less competitive than us. It whacks up the cost to suppliers, and ultimately to the consumer if passed on in full (which they will be in most low margin industries). No one wins.

Also amusing to see that protectionism and tariffs from the EU = bad. Mental protectionism and tariffs from Trump = GOOOOOOD.

The cult continues.

I am pleased to see that you agree that a 10% tariff on Britain makes us more competitive than those with 20% or higher.

 

[cryrst]

Because it isn’t that simple.

Some tariffs are applied to balance government subsidies and create a level playing field. Some are applied to industries to ensure their local survival if their demise would threaten a strategic national interest.

Trump is using a sledgehammer in circumstances when the skills of a surgeon with a scalpel are needed.

On top of that he is conflating other taxes, like VAT, with tariffs, in the way he is presenting things to the American people. They are going to find out the hard way.

They do not have vat so it’s our decision and it’s a tax. It goes to hmg!
They still pay it.

 

[DanH]

I am pleased to see that you agree that a 10% tariff on Britain makes us more competitive than those with 20% or higher.

You keep trying to pretend these tariffs are a good thing.

Glad to see your little snowflake hissy fit is over btw.

 

[Eaglehamster]

I expect Trump’s team are selecting targets, as I write, to take the blame when it all goes tits up.

 

[georgenorman]

You keep trying to pretend these tariffs are a good thing.

Glad to see your little snowflake hissy fit is over btw.

Not at all, where did I say that? I'm generally against the sort of protectionism and tariffs that the EU excel in.

My 'hissy fit'? I'm obliged to post here all the time am I? I'm a snowflake because I objected to what I saw as unreasonable treatment? You seem to think it ok to make personal remarks about me - isn't that supposed to be against the rules?

 

[DanH]

I expect Trump’s team are selecting targets, as I write, to take the blame when it all goes tits up.

US stock markets have opened predictably well. So much winning for US companies and investors, as well as their public having to pay higher prices overnight.

 

[eaglesdare]

So what's the solution then? Enter into a trade war? Or do we get around the table like adults and work out a trade deal?

Or just continue to bitch moan and virtue signal and send insults?

 

[Stirlingsays]

So what's the solution then? Enter into a trade war? Or do we get around the table like adults and work out a trade deal?

Or just continue to bitch moan and virtue signal and send insults?

B1tches big mad.

 

[DanH]

So what's the solution then? Enter into a trade war? Or do we get around the table like adults and work out a trade deal?

Or just continue to bitch moan and virtue signal and send insults?

I see you've taken your "bow down to the aggressor" approach that you have with Putin.

You must have had your lunch money nicked constantly and had a permanent wedgie at school.

 

[eaglesdare]

I see you've taken your "bow down to the aggressor" approach that you have with Putin.

You must have had your lunch money nicked constantly and had a permanent wedgie at school.

I see you still do not provide your potential solution to the problem. Just more insults.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I see you've taken your "bow down to the aggressor" approach that you have with Putin.

You must have had your lunch money nicked constantly and had a permanent wedgie at school.

Says the guy who wimped out of an arms wrestle....even though I'm considerable older.

Smart decision by the way as I'd win quite easily.

Which is exactly the logic here.....taking on battles you can't win is stupidity.

The wise man knows when to fight and when not to fight.

 

[DanH]

I see you still do not provide your potential solution to the problem. Just more insults.

You don't just capitulate to aggressors. You stand up for your own interests and negotiate the best possible outcome for yourself.

 

[eaglesdare]

You don't just capitulate to aggressors. You stand up for your own interests and negotiate the best possible outcome for yourself.

Yes so you agree with me that we have to get round the table and negotiate a better trade deal.

What's the problem here?

 

[DanH]

Yes so you agree with me that we have to get round the table and negotiate a better trade deal.

What's the problem here?

I feel that if you and I went into negotiate the same deal we would come up with two very different outcomes.

You would give Trump everything he wanted, plus a reacharound.

 

[DanH]

Says the guy who wimped out of an arms wrestle....even though I'm considerable older.

Smart decision by the way as I'd win quite easily.

Which is exactly the logic here.....taking on battles you can't win is stupidity.

The wise man knows when to fight and when not to fight.

Oh that was a serious offer was it? You do realise you are a grown man don't you.