Joseph Paxton
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Not sorry I told you Thatcher was a wretch George. No shame that put your nose out of joint.
Israel v Hamas
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Joseph Paxton
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I make no distinction among children, innocents and non-combatants. Men who bear arms - i begin to make distinctions.
georgenorman
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Hamas make no distinction, they openly say that they want to kill all Jews - a clear genocidal stance.
georgenorman
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Did it? I didn't notice.
Joseph Paxton
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Well Hamas does not have my morality.
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I used Statista, and various other sources, but I guess it's all a conspiracy and the most insane one is actually correct....to you
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Never said people weren't killed. I said that it's not genocide because the population has increased.
You lot are struggling to show evidence though....
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Legal Definition of Genocide
Under international law, as defined by the United Nations Genocide Convention, genocide does not only mean mass killing. It includes five specific categories of acts committed with the intent to destroy a group:
Under international law, as defined by the United Nations Genocide Convention, genocide does not only mean mass killing. It includes five specific categories of acts committed with the intent to destroy a group:
- Killing members of the group.
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members.
- Deliberately inflicting destructive living conditions calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction.
- Imposing measures to prevent births within the group.
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
eaglesdare
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Agreed. And it's also not genocide because the IDF do not actively target civilians. They put out warnings to civilian areas to limit casualties. Hamas are the ones who use their own as body shields and actively want to kill every Jew or Israeli they see.
But sure we have gone over this a million times already with them 😴
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Looks like a lot of things the lefty looks support. Progressive Genocide
-Charlie Kirk
-Left wing attacks on those who disagree
-Encouragement of divorce to break families and homes
-Abortion
-Gender trans brainwashing
Did you think about this post before you hit the send button?
CPFCSaturn
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Jheez, have you tried sharing this with the The International Association of Genocide Scholars? No way they would’ve thought to consider such high level analysis in their conclusion, right?
CPFCSaturn
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Ok, so you have indeed used pre-war projections and cited that as proof that the population has increased, as suspected.
Dishonest or monumentally stupid - you can let us know which.
Here is a simple list of conflicts and persecutions in the 21st century that have been formally designated or widely accused of being genocides:
Did you post about any of these other than Gaza?
- Darfur, Sudan (2003–Present)
- Yazidis in Iraq and Syria (2014)
- Rohingya in Myanmar (2017–Present)
- Uyghurs in Xinjiang, China (2017–Present)
- Tigray Region, Ethiopia (2020–2022)
- Gaza Strip (2023–Present)
Did you post about any of these other than Gaza?
The second one got a lot of international attention and outrage, and was used as least partially as a basis for international military intervention. So it was arguably taken much more seriously, since no one is seriously talking about international military intervention in Gaza.
Similarly, the third one led to serious international sanctions on Myanmar which hit them hard, so there was a more significant international response. In relation to the 5th one, Ethiopia has been a recipient of vast amounts of international aid in the last few decades, so very far from ignored
But kind of goes both ways, doesn't it? Were there people speaking out in favour of any of those genocides on here? Was anyone calling for them to be devastated? Was anyone relishing their suffering? If they were they might have developed into a 300 page thread as well.
Did you post on here in outrage about any of these apart from Gaza?
You know the point I am making but you want to deflect, obvious to all.
It's your right to only call out actions by Jews and more power to you, but you and your gang of four should not pretend it's an anti genocide thing, its anti Jew and Israeli thing.
If you claim it's not an anti Israeli thing and you can criticise the actions of the Govt then how do you account for the non Jewish IDF who participated in the Gaza campaign.
eaglesdare
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You mean activists?
An official, final legal determination of genocide has not yet been made by the UN's highest judicial body, the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
While various international bodies, experts, and human rights organizations have asserted that Israel's actions meet the legal definition, the formal judicial process remains ongoing.
There you have it, as at today the ICJ has not made a determination of genocide.
If and when it does that's a different discussion.
Otherwise, it's a genocide because some people think it is etc etc
By many definitions the actions and intentions of Hamas over years constitute genocide.
It's convenient gotcha word for jew haters as far as Gaza is concerned.
While various international bodies, experts, and human rights organizations have asserted that Israel's actions meet the legal definition, the formal judicial process remains ongoing.
There you have it, as at today the ICJ has not made a determination of genocide.
If and when it does that's a different discussion.
Otherwise, it's a genocide because some people think it is etc etc
By many definitions the actions and intentions of Hamas over years constitute genocide.
It's convenient gotcha word for jew haters as far as Gaza is concerned.